Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iraq

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I hope that someone can improve/update/fix this page (because I (the author) am not very good in english or in explaining to third parties my hopes/plans/intentions)

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[edit] Iraq, post-invasion discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

Description: This project would focus on cleaning up, restructuring and organising the various current articles that cover the post-invasion Iraq.

Temporary project page:
None at this time.

User: User:AndrewRT

Interested Wikipedians:

Comments:

  • I can see the purpose in having a project working on articles relating to Iraq, but why limit the project to only articles relating to Iraq since the war started? Many of those same articles will clearly have content related to pre-war Iraq as well. Also, so far as I can tell, there is no project specifically dealing with Iraq as a whole. John Carter 16:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with John Carter. I have been thinking of proposing the creation of a WikiProject Iraq. Iraq War-related articles would obviously be included. Cattus 20:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
There is now a Wikipedia:WikiProject Iraq. Chris 16:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

Will some of you comment on my merger proposal for: 1920 Revolution Brigade, Iraqi National Islamic Resistance, and Islamic Resistance Movement (Iraq)? Palm_Dogg 18:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bilateral relations discussion

I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at this thread regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of WikiProject Foreign relations, a newly created project. We hope that the discussion will result in a more clean and organized way of explaining such relationships. Thank you. Ed ¿Cómo estás? 18:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP Iraq banner

Can you (WikiProject Iraq participants) help adding the WP Iraq banner to Iraq-related talk pages please.--Aziz1005 02:35, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested articles

(To the user who added them) How are these requested articles related to WP Iraq. --Aziz1005 16:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sargon of Akkad

This article is now an FAC. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Iraq War

I created a portal for the Iraq war if anyone is interested.--Langloisrg 02:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hood event GA sweeps review: On Hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the requirements of the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Conflicts, battles and military exercises" articles. I have recently reviewed Hood event and have determined that it is in very good shape but need some assistance to remain a GA. I have put the article on hold for seven days until the issues on the talk page of the article are addressed. I wanted to mention it here so that members of the project, if interested, could assist in improving the article and help it to remain a GA. It currently has a few problems concerning the citation templates & needs only a few more inline citations. Additionally, I will be leaving messages on other WikiProjects and editors affiliated with the page to increase the number of participants assisting in the workload.

If you have any questions about what I've said here, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I hope members here assist in addressing the issues within the article, and keep up the good work in improving articles on Wikipedia! --Nehrams2020 02:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


Thanks Nehrams for letting us know. I'll have a look at the article altough I don't think that I familiar with that particular issue--Aziz1005 02:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] grammar

All of the Iraqi diaspora pages appear to have been written by the same person as a lot of the same mistakes are repeated. "Descent" indicates motion. The act of going down. "Decent" means adequate. 'There' indicates a location. "My shoes are over there". 'Their' indicates posession. "Their shoes are over there." 'They're' is a contraction of They + are. "They're going over there to get their shoes."

Keep it tight people Jr1513 06:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Civil war in Iraq#Consider seeking more opinions

A proposal to move "Civil war in Iraq" to "Sectarian violence in Iraq" is inconclusive after five days. It has been proposed that outside opinions should be sought in order to further the discussion. You are welcome to comment here. Thank you.--victor falk 11:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Execution of Saddam Hussein -> FA

I've got a project proposal to help get Execution of Saddam Hussein to featured status by the one year anniversary of the article's creation. You can read the details here. Any help, especially from WikiProject Iraq members would be greatly appreciated! ~ UBeR (talk) 06:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion discussion: diaspora /refugees

Would anyone with more knowledge of all things Iraqi care to comment on the current proposal to delete or merge the substubs dealing with numerically tiny Iraqi diaspora/refugee populations (e.g. in Bulgaria and Ireland)? Go to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Iraqi_Armenian. --Paularblaster (talk) 00:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Civil war in Iraq#Delete Entire Article, Outdated, Civil War In Iraq

A comment has been made that the article Civil war in Iraq has not been updated with developments since 2007. Since I lack knowledge in this area, could someone have a quick skim over the article and add any important developments as necessary? Many thanks. haz (talk) 19:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oh my!

This project needs some work to improve it!!! In its current state, it is just sort of a mess. An ad rem response will hopefully correct this growing problem. I will start off with the project page, improve it, and work my way round the articles involved.
People, you gotta help me with this one! I think we can make this one of the finest projects on WP, but cooperation and collaboration will be vital. I am kindda planning to do something like Wikipedia:WikiProject France, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Israel, perhaps this Wikipedia:WikiProject_Germany or Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States, maybe?
The Portal:Iraq needs some work too.
If you think I should not do this, stop me now!
Cheers! Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 14:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I am wikifying this right now, will create a wiki ad for the project, all in favour say aye!

Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 19:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Great job Auawise.I'll try to help although I'm not as active as I use to be in the English Wikipedia. I work mainly on the Arabic wikipedia which needs alot of work. I strongly encourage you to go ahead with your plans to improve Iraq WP. --Aziz1005 (talk) 14:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!
I guess WP.ar needs some dedication too. Well, for the moment, I am going to gradually improve the project, especially its departments. Also, do not you think that more participants are required? I am thinking I will abuse my welcoming committee work to lure new WP user here, should I do that?
Any help, no matter how small it might seem, is appreciated.
P.S. I do not know why am doing this, it is just sad when I found this project to be rather neglected like that.
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 16:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
You are really wise MR. AuaWise , WIKIprojcet iraq really needs some improvements, in order to accomplish this goal all participants should have some determination . I also beleive that more participants are required. In the mean time i will try to add some articles and minimize the mess.
AYE!

"Ŝlm♠ŴiseTalk to me! 20:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)"

[edit] Ancient Near East + Persian Empire topics

Please be clear on the topic of this project. Avoid tagging pre-Islamic topics as within the scope of the "Iraq" project: There is a separate Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Near East for articles dealing with pre-Achaemenid content. Please do only tag topics post-dating the Sassanid period. dab (𒁳) 09:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Do not Ignore Iraq's History, The Ancent Mesopotamia is Iraq's History. if you ask any Persian what is the History of Tajikistan, the Answer is Persia, then ask him what is the History of Iraq. Nothing, We just a modern day country. What a prejudice, Iraq is everything, Babylon, Assyria, Sumer, Abbassid... etc. so don't say we are not Mesopotamia. we have the right to Link Mesopotamia's pages to WP Iraq. Mussav (talk) 14:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where are the three stars?

Iraq's flag is displayed several times on the main page but all do not show stars (i.e. red, white, black and the word allahu-akbar but no stars)[[User:Cs1kh]] (talk) 11:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Iraq flag's has been changed, and this one is a temporarily. Check this page for more info. Flag of Iraq . Mussav (talk) 11:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed barnstar of national merit image. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was Approve

Thanks Mussav for your efforts!
Now, who thinks that the barnstar of national merit should be something like this:
to be a bit consistent with other barnstars of national merit.
P.S. I am not comfortable with the blue colour of the star, please feel free to change it, it is SVG.
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 11:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
It's look like a North Yemeni flag. :\ Mussav (talk) 14:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Really?! hmmm, you might have a point there? Any suggestions?
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 15:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'm not sure, If you change the star's color to Green it will be more like Syrian. so what do you think, should we change it to green? Mussav (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Would there be any way, or would it even be acceptable, to place the takbir in the white section of the ribbon, maybe vertically? That would I think clearly indicate that it is Iraqi. John Carter (talk) 16:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
hmm, interesting proposals. As for changing the star's colour to green, it will be the most hideous thing you will ever see... believe me, I tried that. The colours will not simply match. The blue colour was chosen because it sits well with the blue template, please refer to the WikiProject page. Adding "takbir" (I am guessing it is the Arabic words on the flag) might not go well with all members. If my Arabic serves me well, the text is religious and some people will blank my user page for making it vertical or whatever. I will ask the guys at WikiProject Islam. By the way, it is SVG, so anyone with Inkscape can actually edit it.
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 16:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How about using a horizontal flag then? A man of honour (talk) 19:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I think that might solve the problem, does someone else think the same? Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 19:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes I agree for the horizontal flag. :) Mussav (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, one issue solved. What about the star's colour? Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 19:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How about Yellow or Gold? You know, Kurd wish to be represented in Iraq's flag. Here you can see the proposal flag. well it's just an opinion, let's see what others think about it. Mussav (talk) 20:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Great Idea! I am working on it, and by tomorrow I will have the result. Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Amigo!! Using Adobe Photoshop CS3 , you can add the stars , change the large star's colour ....you don't have to choose the horizontal flag. If you cannot use the Photoshop i can make the changes you want with the vertical flag.
anything you want ,do not hesitate to ask!
AYE!
"Ŝlm♠ŴiseTalk to me! 21:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)"
Again, this is SVG, this means it is scalable vector graphics... not bitmap and does not depend on pixels but rather on anchor points... what that means is photoshop can not be used to edit this image but rather illustrator. I personally use Inkscape.
Thanks for the comment though.
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 21:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


You CAN change the format to BITMAP or jpg !!!!
"Ŝlm♠ŴiseTalk to me! 21:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)"
You are missing the point here; SVG's are better.. From their name, you can tell that they can be scaled up without losing details. I have made this one, looks good. eh? Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 11:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Amazing, I like it :) Mussav (talk) 00:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Proposal: voting

The following discussion is an archived debate of a proposal to limit the scope of the Iraq WikiProject. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was Oppose as The more paths there are for editors to find the article, the better.

User:Dbachmann has proposed to limit the scope of the WikiProject Iraq to include only articles related to the time period from 1919 to the modern era as well as archaeological sites, which will exclude Iraq articles that are tagged with daughter, or separate projects (exempli gratia; Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Near East ).

Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 09:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

auawise doesn't reflect my "proposal" accurately. Please see here. My points are:

  • article talkpages aren't the "property" of a given WikiProject. Whether a given tag is appropriate is a question of case-by-case consensus, to be decided not by a certain Wikiproject, but by the people involved in writing the article in question. My beef is with "territorial" driveby-tagging adding template clutter all over Wikipedia, by people who are not involved in writing the articles they tag at all.
  • Wikiproject tags are appropriate as long as there is no daughter project with a more narrow scope. As such, tagging articles related to the history of Iraq with the "Iraq" template will be appropriate for times as far back as 650 CE until there is a dedicated "Islamic Caliphates" Wikiproject. Even articles with a scope as far back as 600 BCE will be appropriate, until there is a dedicated "Achaemenid Empire" project or similar. For times predating 600 BCE, use the Ancient Near East tag. Best practice will depend pragmatically on what active projects there actually are. dab (𒁳) 09:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
It seems that dab has ignored the fact that no one owns an article, and as such no one has the right to have the final say on which project that article belongs to. If members of the Iraq WikiProject would like to make say, Gilgamesh, within their scope and would consequently like to improve it, why on God's green earth would you object to that?...
Our mission as wikipedians is to build an encyclopaedia.
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 11:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
to Auawise, It's not fair, it isn't fair at all, a voting will decide whether if Iraq has or has not a history ??? even the Idea of separating us from our history is wrong.
to Dbachmann, It's about Iraq and Iraq's History, Obviously when mentioning Iraq's history I mean Mesopotamia. The Persian Period can be added to the WP Iran, (btw, just an additional info, yes, They conquered and ruled Mesopotamia for centuries. but that doesn't mean there were no original people of Mesopotamia in that time. There was Assyria, Babylonian,... etc even Arab lived during the rule of the Persian Empires) again, my point is, I'm with mentioning "before and after" the Persian periods to Iraq's history. I already explained that Arab used the word "Iraq" to the land between the 2 Rivers; in matter of fact people still call as Bilad Al-Rafiden (the Land between the 2 Rivers) Instead of Iraq. So I have no Idea why it's so hard to mention our History, Iraq's history. Mussav (talk) 00:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The voting is not there to decide whether Iraq has a history or not, it certainly does. People in Mesopotamia were writing poetry before before mud houses were built in Rome. The point of the voting -which I will cancel soon if it seems no one is interested in voting- is to determine whether WikiProject Iraq has such articles about ancient civilisations within its scope.
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 13:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Just an example, about Babylon, You think it's just vanished? No it's not, their places are still exist, the ruins are still exist and the research of National Geographic Magazine says that the Recent DNA (Y chromosome) studies conducted by the National Geographic Magazine on the bones of ancient Babylonians and living people from Babil have shown that the modern peoples carry the same ancient Babylonian genetic material….
what if Babylon got the independence let's say for example in 2100? Dose they have a history? are they a new state too? No, they have a History, they have a great History. but why Dbachmann doesn't accept Babylon as part of Iraq? what he is waiting for? an Independence? Imagine they will never get the independent? are they forgotten? They are part of Iraq and they prude of it, you cant ignore them you cant ignore their History, saying Iraq doesn’t has a History is wrong and you will be prejudice. They Are Mesopotamian, from Bilad Al-Rafidin, Iraqis (I already explained what is the meaning of Iraqi above), the name might be different but the meaning is the same, the Land between the 2 rivers. so my answer is, Yes WikiProject Iraq can has such articles about it's History.Mussav (talk) 14:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Support:

Oppose:

  • There is absolutely no point in excluding articles related to pre-Islamic Mesopotamia or pre-1919 modern Iraq/Mesopotamia from the scope of Iraq WP.Unless some one is trying to raise a new conflict over Iraq related articles here. What’s the point of having a wiki project? The answer is to improve the quality of this encyclopaedia (Wikipedia). Therefore, there is no harm done to articles that fall into the scope of 1 to 10000 wikiprojects. Every article related to Iraq/Mesopotamia and its history must be included, end of the story! By the way does this proposed policy or whatever apply to Egypt WP, Iran WP or any other middle astern wikiproject since there is a dedicated WP for ancient near east?--Aziz1005 (talk) 15:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Aziz. Just because no one from that project is involved *now" doesn't mean there won't be anyone later. The more paths there are for editors to find the article, the better. The articles definitely fall within the scope of "Iraq", and 1919 strikes me as quite arbitrary. -- Slacker (talk) 01:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose Definitely Oppose the Idea of separating Iraq and Iraq's History, explained above. Mussav (talk) 11:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Neutral:

  • As a new member, i am neutral on this one. A man of honour (talk) 15:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] JavaScript for tagging

I do not pretend to have even the slightest possible knowledge of JavaScript, but I have put together a little simple script to help people who tag articles with WikiPorject Iraq to do it a lot faster. The script will place the {{Iraq}} tag at the beginning of the talkpage, then put an appropriate edit summary, then save. The script can be used when one is in the edit mode of an article's talk page. To get the script:

  1. Copy the text below and paste it into the bottom of your monobook.js file:
    importScript('User:auawise/tag.js');
  2. Save the new monobook.js page, and
  3. Completely refresh your browser by bypassing your cache (Firefox: Control-Shift-R / Firefox Mac: Command-Shift-R / Explorer: Control-F5)
  4. Done!

I am constantly learning new stuff and will introduce new changes once I am done with them. I was inspired by Mussav to write this simple script.

Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 15:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Auawise, but I didn't understand after placing the tag, I did all the steps, but I didn't notice the change. what is the use of the script? Mussav (talk) 17:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I have been doing a bit of working on it to get it into a better shape.... Anyway, you will notice that there is a little tab at the top next to "watch" that has the letter "i". Click on it while you are editing an article, it will automatically insert the tag, put the edit summary and save. Please bypass your cache, and make sure that you are using Firefox, I do not think it works on IE. Cheers! Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 19:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll try to redo it. :) Mussav (talk) 11:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

New script

I wrote a new script, this one is way better and will you place the importance, class and if the article needs attention...useful for the WikiProject table. Here is what to do, follow all the steps above, however, copy the below instead to your monobook.js file:

importScript('User:AzaToth/morebits.js');
importScript('User:auawise/itag.js');

I hope this helps! Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 14:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The first one the "I" button worked, But the 2nd one the "iraq" button didn't work, the button appears but when I click on it nothing happens, any Idea? Any way thank you a lot for you great work. :) Mussav (talk) 17:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I just tried them both, and they both worked on Firefox, but not on Internet explorer.
The first one works fine on both browsers, the second one works only on Firefox. To be honest with you, the reason is that I use the morebits library parts which appear to function only on Firefox. I am sorry for this, The second script is not only faster, but also offers a range of options (you can tell it the importance of the article, and its rating)...
Anyway, if you want to change any setting in any script you use, please tell me so that I can do it for you, for example if you want to change the edit summary.
Cheers!
Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 18:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Baghdad stub/Category

A new stub type {{Baghdad-stub}} was created along with its own category. The stub might be deleted if a number of 60 articles tagged with it is not achieved. Here is part of user Grutness message:
"As to the stubs themselves, given that your WikiProject is for Iraq as a whole, not "Wikiproject Baghdad", the threshold level for a separate category is 60 stubs. So if you can find 60 stubs on Baghdad, then chances are the category will be kept (note - changing a plain iraq-stub to baghdad-stub is fine on articles, but if they're something like iraq-geo-stub then add baghdad-stub to it as a separate template). If you can't reach 60, then it's likely the template will be kept but upmerged (i.e., it'll lead back into the main). So for now, it's simply a case of trying to find Baghdad stubs."
Thus if you come across an article which can be listed as a Baghdad stub, please do so...Otherwise it will be deleted. Its presence is important since it is Iraq's capital and should have its own stub.
A barnstar will be given to those who help in preserving it.
Thanks! Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 14:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to add this template to Baghdad-related articles --Aziz1005 (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Aziz did an excellent job here, and was awarded the barnstar of national merit.However, if you come across more articles that can be added to this category, please add it. Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 11:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. yes of course I will:)--Aziz1005 (talk) 19:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Iraq Gallery

I have added some images to the photography department here. Please help adding these photos to related articles. --Aziz1005 (talk) 22:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Great work indeed. I have added a link to that area in the Iraq sidebar on the Project's page. Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 17:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Iraq War

Does anyone know anything about Portal:Iraq War? I see that the one who created it has ummm...retired but before I mark this as a Portal for deletion it seems like it could be useful if updated and it appears to be fairly well done. I am also leaving this question on the Wikiproject Military History discussion page.--Kumioko (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Population of the city of Basra

I have changed the population of Basra (City) from 2.6 to 1.7 million to make it consistant with the box on the site - but without any firm basis - just internal consistancy and some other bt old sources indicate far lower figures than 2.6mil . Does anyone know any authoritative sources for populations of Basra/Mosul/Irbil as our entries are being used by others and I am not sure of how reliable they are. (Msrasnw (talk) 01:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Sassanid Empire

Sassanid Empire has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 05:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2 toolbars need correcting

'Current Featured Articles' and 'Good articles' toolbars go too far across the screen and need correcting (I am using a Firefox browser - if that makes a difference) [[User:Cs1kh]] (talk) 09:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC) I have moved the 'Current Featured articles' & 'Good Articles' toolbars down, to fix this problem on Firefox. The space can eventually be filled up with relevant text.

I have noticed that the problem may not occur on Internet Explorer, and so if my changes have caused a problem on Internet Explorer, Just undo my changes. It was a genuine effort to fix 2 annoying toolbars that cover the 'Iraq Articles' table [[User:Cs1kh]] (talk) 16:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arbil

Could someone please give a rating scale to Arbil fc as it does not have one. (User:Mo1993 (talk) 23:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 21:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)