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  • About the notice that the page is inactive: this page appears to be inactive as it contains most of the issues which any editor interested in the matter may require for his/her guidance. Accordingly, further discussion may not have taken place. Editors like me are continuing to create at least stubs about the districts of India. --Bhadani 13:19, 10 November 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] Naming convention for districts

Are there any naming conventions for districts and towns with the same name. Most districts in India has a town with the same name in it. For example there are two articles in wikipedia called Kottayam and Kottayam District. There is a lot of redundant information in these two pages. Is it necessary? I believe we should discuss and implement wikipedia guidelines for indian town and district articles. If this discussion has already taken place please direct me to the same. --DuKot 20:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Response and further discussion here. - Ganeshk (talk) 23:05, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

All should try to contribute a little to our district pages so that pages relating to diffirent districts of India continue to grow. I shall again try to work a little in this direction. --Bhadani 14:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indian district project

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the district naming. Please do not modify it. The discussion is currently going on at Talk:List_of_Indian_districts. Please go over to vote on this debate.
Copied from: Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics/archive7

I'm launching an ambitious project to populate and disambiguate all Indian districts. See: List of Indian districts.

  1. Part 1 -- If a district and its district headquarters share the same name, then split it into two articles. The town gets the name (eg: Mysore) and the district will have the word district appended to it (eg Mysore district). Note that the word district is in small case.
  2. Part 2 -- Populate all red links
  3. Part 3 -- Add infoboxes to all districts. (A bot probably will be needed)

Any volunteers? =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Note that a ~100% urban district need not have a dist HQ. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Done:
  1. Andaman and Nicobar, Andhra Pradesh, Goa, Chandigarh, Sikkim, Daman and Diu, Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Meghalaya, Tripura. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
    +Arunachal Pradesh
    + Maharashtra

Tom and me and some others allready did a lot of these splittings. Actually you reverted Tirap and Lohit. One should not only look for whether the town and district have the same name, but there can also be other things in the world having the district's name. In most cases better add the word "District" now, than to fix lots of links later. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 12:12, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm aware of the Tirap and Lohit dab pages. I had created a River Lohit page to compensate for the loss. I've also been doing the cleanups while moving. Double redirects are a problem, but a bot can easily solve those. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:43, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

But you changed links that referred to Lohit District to Lohit. Why? BTW I moved your "River X" to "X River" as this is the naming used for other articles in Category:Rivers and Category:Rivers_of_India Tobias Conradi (Talk) 09:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Having the uppercase title "District" is against wikipedia conventions, so I suggest that we effect the changes as soon as possible instead of worrying about fixing double redirects which are a more of a minor issue. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:10, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
WRONG. Please read Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 09:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
  1. Anantapur district (NDTV), Anantnag district (ToI), Kinnaur district (Hindustan times). As I've pointed by these three examples, the word district is in small case.
  2. Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors: I don't see why this is a conflict between readers and editors. It has to do with the correct capitalisation of a word. Hardly something a reader would misunderstand.
  3. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers : River articles may be named "X", "X River", or "River X", depending on location and most common usage. River X is more prevalent in British English and since Indian English follows BE, there's nothing wrong with having "River X".

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

For rivers I would prefer using X River.--Raghu 16:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Done:

Assam - Ganeshk (talk) 07:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vote

The following discussion is an archived vote of the district naming. Please do not modify it. The discussion is currently going on at Talk:List_of_Indian_districts. Please go over to vote on this debate.

Let's put this through a vote:

what nonsense is this? to vote ont the notice board? you can also vote on your userpage and invite your friends. Tobias Conradi 23:19, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

And why do you have problems with the vote being placed here? This notice board is meant to discuss India-related topics, the ideal place for such a vote. Secondly, I don't need to set my userpage or invite friends over. Please note that we are seeking a larger mandate, and are following all wikipedia procedures of fair resolution. As the opposing party, I though it would be fair to invite you over here to share your opinion, and so have messaged only you. I don't see the need for you to be so obstinate and defensive. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:43, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
It makes lot of sense to have the vote here; else, people would turn back and say, "you held the vote on your user page and invited your friends - it should be in a more public place etc." ;) Anyways, polls without discussion are evil; not polls per se. People who vote here would obviously have a look at the discussion above, before voting. Or may be, should we call it a straw poll? --Gurubrahma 04:43, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
you can also vote on your userpage and invite your friends. read: to vote on the Indian noticeboard is similiar as to vote on a user page. Anyway, I don't know why vote without discussion or analyse the matter, compare: Talk:List_of_Indian_districts#X_District Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Straw poll is probably better. - Taxman Talk 19:27, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

X district

  • =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
  • --Gurubrahma 12:05, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Ganeshk (talk) 15:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
  • --Raghu 16:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Taxman Talk 19:27, 10 February 2006 (UTC) This makes sense, but is assuming "district" is not part of the proper name, is that a correct assumption? Either way, it will be nice to have standardization on the district names and separate articles for the district and the HQ.
  • --Pamri • Talk 08:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • -- ImpuMozhi 22:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC). I favour this because it falls correctly within sentences. I mean, in a sentence like: "Akkalkot lies in Solapur district of Maharashtra state," one can just create a link to "Solapur district" without having to make it "Solapur District|Solapur district".
  • --Bhadani 16:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC). I would add that people are infatuated with their mental set-up, they do not want to unlearn or learn generally, and continue to float in a mental cage. They fail to understand that English words are used in diffirent places in difirent ways. The administrative and geographical concept of a district came to India with the advent of the British East India Company and the British Raj, and they rarely used it as "District" in their notifications, creating districts.
    • I created 100s of stubs for districts of India, and I was forced to move the pages to "District" to maintain order, though I knew that someday, someone would set the issue to test and rest. The time has now come - people should know that "district" is used in several parts of the world with different connotations. --Bhadani 16:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

X District

[edit] WikiProject India

The following discussion is copied from WT:INB. Please respond there to keep the discussion centralised.

I think we should retire templates for the various Indian wikiprojects such as {{Wikiproject Indian districts}}, {{Wikiproject Indian cinema}}, {{Wikiproject History of India}} etc. and replace them all with {{WP India}}. It has various advantages over the others.

  • We can rate the articles - the rating counts appear on the WP:IND page as we do so.
  • Each of the above child projects can get exposure as the template can incorporate their names as well.
  • This will guide new people and other interested readers to a centralised project page and help us recruit better for the projects.
  • It will help rejuvenate the WP:IND. It has the lowest no. of members of all these projects.

These are just some thoughts. If there is agreement on this, we can start by replacing the templates on the project pages with the {{WP India}} template. -- Lost(talk) 18:18, 16 September 2006 (UTC)