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[edit] Heroes Mythology page Complete

I have finished the Mythology section. I sourced everything and I hope everyone enjoys it. Please, Please, Please take some time to go over to the page and shred through it. It needs some work, but I think I laid a good foundation. It will need to be checked for verifiability, OR, POV, spelling/grammar and all that good stuff. Some sections may not have enough wieght or too much wieght. please help improve that too. Please take some time to help improve the article and place any tags that need to be placed. Dont just go and start deleting some stuff, like some users do. Rather, go over to the page and improve it!! Lets all work together. Also, I dont know how to cite ref correctly, so if anyone wants to fix all the lazy refs I did, that needs work as well. I hope it is a qaulity article. I tried not to put any OR or POV in it, but it happens. Its all in good faith of course. Enjoy the page and please take some time to help make improvements! Mythology of Heroes--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 04:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The post above is duplicate of Talk:Heroes (TV series)#Mythology section Complete. Please comment there instead of here. –thedemonhog talk • edits 04:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peer Review

A request for a new peer review has been made. If you have time in your day, please head over to the Heroes Main Page and submit your comments on the peer review page for improvements to the articles and the Heroes WP as a whole. Heroes Peer Review--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 05:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How is it not synthesis?

I refer to, of course, the assignment of super-powers from the list of superpowers. Many of the heroes' abilities have never been named via citation, and it seems to me to set a dangerous precedent in allowing editors to suss out and reason away which power to assign. Even if there is consensus that Monica Dawson has "photographic reflexes" (this used to be termed muscle memory and a few other terms), consensus doesn't overcome synthesis. In fact, i would argue that the assignment of these powers in accordance to the wiki list is the very definition of synthesis. If we allow this, we open the door to some ass-clown in the future seeking to legitimize their own synthesis and using Heroes as a precedent. We have to look beyond this one article and wikiproject. Someone help me understand this, please. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 19:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with this. In some cases, it's otherwise obvious (i.e. telepathy, which Matt has, is a term accepted for mind-reading), but in other cases it isn't so obvious, and would be better off served with a textual explanation. I'm pretty much against the short power names anyway, and think they should be taken out, but that's another issue. --iTocapa iChat 20:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
This gets brought up every so often. Fans say 'but it isn't just like that, and the other side says, well, it's close enough, and it both saves us space in the article and gives non-fans a general and clear idea of what the character can do. Most of the discussions ended supporting not having essays about it, and we do have citations, or did, for a number of them. Further, brief links steer us away, yet again, from in-universe, and towards out-of-universe. ThuranX (talk) 23:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
ThuranX, are you saying we should keep the wikilinking to the list because its easier than the alternative of using up more space? Its still synthesis, isn't it? With respect, if we have cites, we use them and let the reader make up their minds as to the definition of the power. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 23:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guidelines

[edit] WP:FICT has been revised

WP:FICT, the notability guideline for elements within a work of fiction (characters, places, elements, etc) has a new proposal/revision that is now live [1] Everyone is encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page. Ned Scott 22:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Notability (serial works)

There is a proposal to split WP:EPISODE into a more general notability guideline, Wikipedia:Notability (serial works), and make the rest of WP:EPISODE just a MOS guideline. Please join in at WT:EPISODE#Proposed split of EPISODE and/or Wikipedia talk:Notability (serial works). -- Ned Scott 22:13, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About the Novel characters

I started a discussion in Talk:List of characters in Heroes#Merge Graphic Novel characters. Please check. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elle Bishop GA review

I have put GA nominee Elle Bishop on hold and left some notes on the talkpage. Since User:Lindsey8417 hasn't been active in the past seven days, I leave an extra note here. Please see my GA review notes at Talk:Elle Bishop and address them within the enxt seven days. Thank you. – sgeureka t•c 10:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I made the edits, and sgeureka has promoted the article to GA. So, here's to hoping more Heroes articles get GA, and eventually FA! -Lindsey8417 (talk) 03:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] WikiProject Heroes: Articles of unclear notability

Hello,

there are currently 20 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. I have listed them here. (Note: this listing is based on a database snapshot of 12 March 2008 and may be slightly outdated.)

I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability.

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] external links bbq

The list of Heroes graphic novels makes abundant use of external links within the article and I brought this up at the apropos guideline's talk page; see and discuss here (Wikipedia talk:External links#inline external links). — pd_THOR | =/\= | 23:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)