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[edit] Importance Scale and Assesment

Like all other WikiProjects, shouldn't this one have an asessment scale (for the quality of the article) and importance scale (too measure the articles based on their importance to the project)? It would be a good idea to give us an idea on which articls to edit more heavily than others, although all articles should be edited to the most of thier extent.  scrumshus Talk to me 00:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry I didn't get to you sooner, but things have been crazy at home lately. I think it's pretty much up to Orfen because he's the most experienced at this, as far as I can tell. If you and Orfen agree on the whole thing, then I'll agree with you guys. I just can't really be certain at the moment. Thanks for bringing it up!--Jude 17:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I do think we need something like this. However I have looked at what is needed to create these and it takes quite a bit of knowledge of how to use the Wiki markup. We have to either do a lot of editing to an existing template to suit our needs or try to create it ourselves. If you look for an example there is Template:WPBiography. If you check edit page there is quite a bit of information there and this is so that you can just change values in the template when you set it so you don't need to create tons of templates that have little differences in them. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it I just feel that we need to take some serious thought if we want to do this because it will take quite a bit of template work. I'm all for this idea but I just wanted to show how complicated it might be. I'm willing to possibly try to edit an existing template to work for our WikiProject but I just want to see what you guys think.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 05:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Wow wa wee wa, that is complicated. Maybe a more experienced user could be added to our wikiproject, methinks.  scrumshus Talk to me 05:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I know I'd probably screw something up. Maybe we can contact a person who created a template like this and ask for help?  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 05:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
that might not be a bad idea. i'll try to enlist some admins or such.  scrumshus Talk to me 19:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I looked through the admins I know of and none of them seem to be green day fans. Do you know anyone we could invite?--Jude 09:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually this is quite simple. I just looked upon this and discovered this recently. I added an Article Assessment to our WikiProject template. For more information you can view Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Day/Assessment. I did not add an Importance Scale as I feel it really isn't quite needed. It's an easy add and if anyone would like it I could easily add it on (if no one else knows how). But We need to assess all of our articles now, and there is a nice big long page of information at that link I provided along with statistics and lists.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 23:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I've gone through and rated EVERY unrated green day article. It's all taken care of now... LukeTheSpook (talk) 04:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template for stubs

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Should we implant this?  scrumshus Talk to me 01:53, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Since there is a WikiProject and there is a wide variety of Green Day articles I would say yes. However, I am not quite sure if this is allowed, I mean I'm sure it probably is, but I'd make sure we can do this before implementing it because it seems like a big thing to me at least to create a new stub template.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 03:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American_Idiot_(film) is up for deletion

Please vote here--Jude 21:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I have voted and have voted Keep.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 22:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
It looks as though it's going to be deleted. I don't really want to start any arguments, but Green Day *said* it was going to happen, how is that not a valid source?--Jude 04:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I did a lot of research on the article, and it doesn't look like I did much, but it took some time and I weeded out a lot of bull that didn't need to be in the article. Check it out and see what you think? Thanks Orfen.--Jude 05:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I believe I mentioned an article in the AfD an article with information and I was refering to this: http://www.thenetworkband.com/three.jpg. Perhaps though this gives more reason for deletion? I don't know, but if you want to use the source then go for it. The film information is in the last quote at the end of the article.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 18:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I read that as well. If the page does get deleted, I'll just save all the sources and when there's actors hired and filming started, we'll have a better stance to recreate the article. Thanks for the source, I'll keep it with the others.--Jude 21:48, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I kept the sources as I said I would. I'm going to add them to the section in the main Green Day article at some point. So, any further information about the American Idiot Film should be added to the main article.--Jude 00:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Freese up for deletion

Please vote here.

It's being deleted for not having sourced information. Is there anywhere you know of that has sourced information? I'm going to add a few sources that I know of ( green day authority's biography, as much tour info I can find for the goo goo dolls, etc. ). Please feel free to contribute. I need all the help I can get.--Jude 04:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for everyone's support, it was kept.--Jude 01:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adrienne Armstrong

Every few months I go through this[1]. Is there anyone who can help me out trying to defend her "worthiness" to have a wikipedia article? It's driving me nuts and I'm trying not to lose my cool.

It seems to me that the trivia is, in fact, trivial, but isn't that what all trivia is? Honestly, I don't understand how anyone could not understand that she's not just Billie Joe's wife. She has made a name for herself in the past few years fighting for environmental causes, creating a clothing line, she runs a record company. She's an activist, and as "small" as her work may seem to some people, she's making a difference and I don't see how that's irrelevant. In fact I've met several people in real life that have said "I saw the clothing line and had to learn more about her so I went to Wikipedia."

If anyone could help me by adding more sourced information and articles about her, that would be spectacular. I'm going to put it on the to do list.--Jude 07:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I can understand your frustration. At the moment I just took a real quick peak and did some formatting changes and things of that nature. I can help more with sourcing and other things later. I also left a comment on the talk page. I think the trivia can stay for now but I think it needs to be watched. It said that Billie Joe and Adrienne had a divorce but this information was not sourced so I removed it. If this true however it must be sourced as it claimed it has been stated. But good job on it so far.  Orfen User Talk | Contribs 22:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah that "information" is completely unfounded, there hasn't been a divorce. If they can't prove it, which I'm sure they can't, then it has to be removed as vandalism. They really went to town on it and kept adding it. They hit Billie Joe's article too.
I've added a source to the article, it's the old greenday.net faq. I have punk rock confidential sitting next to the desk, I'll be adding stuff from there/sourcing it later tonight. Thanks again!--Jude 01:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm fairly new here, so my apologies if I make any errors. I recently added myself to the Green Day WikiProject, and am willing to help out in any way I can. Jude - I seem to share your point of view to a T. When it comes to adding sourced information and articles on Adrienne, I could definitely help you there - obviously it would depend on what exactly you want to include in the page, and what's relevant. If I could maybe get some kind of a go-ahead, I think I have a source which could prove quite useful. Yep - this is a fairly tricky task, but I hope I can help! Hope to hear from someone soon. Whatsie 20:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome aboard! Thanks so much for your concern. It's hard to find people concerned with Adrienne's qualifications outside of "Billie Joe's wife". We want to put *any* relevant information up about her that we can. It's very helpful to have as many sources as possible, so I say if you have a source with a decent amount of information, go for it! If you make any edits that I don't agree with I'm not going to bite your head off :-D and I doubt anyone else will. If there's a huge deal about it, we can discuss it here or on Adrienne's talk page. Thank you again for your time!--JUDE talk 01:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, just a couple of quick questions. Firstly, I notice that in the last few months a couple of facts have vanished from the article - things such as Adrienne being of Lebanese decent, or being able to play the drums, things like that. I wondered, were they removed because they couldn't be cited, or were they simply made up? One other thing - is there a reason for there being no images in the article, wasn't quite sure why that was? Hey, I'm still learning - thanks a lot. Whatsie 19:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
To sort through the "facts" and the "fiction": She doesn't play drums. She was never in a girl band haha, which a lot of people say she was. Adrienne is of Lebanese decent, but we don't have a source for that. We have to add things along with sources so that we can make the article as factual as possible. For example, for a long time everyone assumed that Joseph's birthday was in March, but it's in fact in February. Also, Joseph's middle name is *always* miss spelled. I haven't seen it spelled the right way even once on the net or in print. So you see, we need sourced information and document the sources. About the picture: There aren't any free-images of Adrienne. All of the photos are either copyrighted, or of unknown origin ( personal photos ). Maybe one day we'll get someone who took a picture with her to volunteer their picture.--JUDE talk 19:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Warning: Genre dispute

Hey guys, I added a new task. Here's the explanation: An IP address has been editing Warning:, Warning (Green Day song), and Macy's Day Parade (song) to reflect that the songs and album be considered Power Pop. I took the dispute to a Admin. They protected the page for a week so there could be a discussion and consensus. Thank you for your participation in this matter!--JUDE talk 20:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capital on Nimrod

I recently suggested on the Green Day talk page, here, that the album title Nimrod be capitalized according to every source on the web. No one has responded, so if you have any thoughts on the subject please read and respond. Thanks. - Jon Stockton 01:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Green Day discography

Could someone please verify these edits? Corvus cornix 23:53, 3 August 2007 (UTC)