Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Graffiti

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This article is part of WikiProject Graffiti, an ongoing effort to improve the quality of, expand upon and create new articles relating to graffiti art, graffiti artists and all aspects of graffiti culture. Click Here for more information.
Miscellany for deletion This miscellaneous page was nominated for deletion on 18 April 2006. The result of the discussion was Speedy Keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.
  • If anyone has any objections to this project, please make an effort to contact me before taking any actions towards deleting the project, that would be nice. Thanks. PeterPartyOn 11:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Or me while Peter is "away". Dfrg.msc 05:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] who cares

does it actualy matter if anyone makes a page like this? i cant see anything wrong with it. tell me, place comments


[edit] OBEY

People, please. Shepard Fairey is NOT a graffiti artist. He is a sticker bomber & wheatpaster. He has NEVER used spray paint as the main medium of his so-called phenomenology acts. Stop adding him to the WIKIPEDIA LIST of GRAFFITI artists. It is an insult to anyone on that list who has ever risked their life or freedom in the name of GRAFFITI. "Wildstyles", anyone ?

Instead of continuously overlooking the facts, one of you should research the company FUCT™ & its creator Erik Brunetti. If anyone on this website wants to uncover the "truth", it will be well worth your time. I would even that it would be a great contribution to the world of information. For starters, you can log on to this website: [[1]]. Good luck.

-Brighton58

  • Feel free to join the project and make the edits yourself. 140.159.8.2 05:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
From Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary:
graffiti: words or drawings, especially humorous, rude or political, on walls, doors, etc. in public places
stickers, markers, etching tools, wheat paste, painting either spray-paint or other, and even sculptural mediums are a part of graffiti. I would say that Shep is an artist before saying he is a graffiti artist, but the fact is, what he has done for many years is graffiti. You do not need to use a spray can to be considered a graffiti artist as this is only one of manny tools of the trade.
If you are really concerned about how Shep would like to be portrayed you should contact him directly. I'm sure he has no issues with being referred to as a graffiti artist. Now if you were referring to him as a "writer" that's a completely different story.
MediaClemz

[edit] Greetings from Visual arts project

Hello from WikiProject Visual arts. I just came across your project right now. I'll link the graffiti project on the make visual arts project section. Clubmarx 22:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC) shepard fairy IS a graf aitist TIK25 —Preceding unsigned comment added by TIK25 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] street artists

Made a load of new pages as requested from the To-Do list, with photos where I had them. They're all just stubs just now, so feel free to add to them. The To-Do list only seems to have street art /post-graffiti artists listed, presumably some other types of Graffiti artists should be on this page in a separate list? --duncan 23:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Street art and Guerilla art

I have suggested that Guerilla art be merged into Street art, judging by the two's "definitions". If I was wrong in doing so, my apologies. 66.229.182.113 02:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graffiti in various cities?

Why not start to promote the creation of various Wikisites about the situation in various cities around the world? For example Graffiti in Taipei. I think many people would appreciate that, especially because every city has its own unique graffiti culture and history. 217.209.93.223 08:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • There actually is something similar to what you are asking for here on Wikipedia. See graffiti artists category which is a wiki catagory of graffiti artists sorted by nationality. MediaClemz

[edit] Cope2 stub

I did a bunch of research and expanded the article and added sources. Please let me know if its past the stub phase and I can remove the graffiti stub tag. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 20:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freaklüb

I created an article about Freaklüb a while ago, as they were on the to-do list. On 1st August an administrator speedy deleted it without telling me. I've asked for the article to be un-deleted. You can follow the debate here. If you know how these things work, feel free to support or oppose my request on that page. Right now it looks like the article will be restored, but AFD'd (Article For Deletion), i.e it will be deleted unless it can be improved enough not to upset the administrators. So if it gets restored, some assistance on improving the article would be welcome, and/or supporting it's existence in any AFD debate. cheers. --duncan 19:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, contrary to how I expected, the speedy deletion was endorsed, despite there not being enough votes for that to actually be allowed. Things I learnt from this that might benefit this project:
  • admins won't follow procedure when making decisions. The deleting admin didn't follow any of the required procedure when he speedy deleted the article. When I put it up for Deletion Review, despite the explicit statement that deletion review is not about opinion of the content, but about the process that was followed in the deletion, the whole review turned into a review of the content.
  • admins display bias. e.g. the administrator who finally closed the review process decided not to count the vote from one of the other admins, because he felt that person's votes were always in favour of un-deletion.
  • articles can be undeleted into your userspace for you to work on them. in the end, that's what i did, and added more content, references etc.
  • it's going to be hard to justify articles about many graffiti artists, unless we can get plenty of reliable external links, interviews etc that make it clear why these people are notable. referencing books is one way this might work. i've tried beefing up most of the graffiti artist articles i created with that kind of stuff. hopefully it'll prevent admins deleting other articles in this project.--duncan 11:41, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Os Gemeos

The Os Gêmeos article I created has been AFD'd. Please either contribute to the article to help prevent it's deletion, and/or to the AFD discussion.--duncan 09:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Article survived the AFD debate. I added a bit more info, and a link to a New York Times article, which probably helped.--duncan 17:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Get Lively!!

If you want some sort of change you'll really have to get active (i.e. do it yourself/join the wikiproject/get other people to join the wikiproject) I started this project a while ago in the hope it would draw more attention toward the plight of graffiti articles. I don't get on the net very often and since it's creation the projects existing members seem to have lost interest. If anyone cares at all about the graffiti articles I urge you to join the project, make any changes and get something productive going. Given the state of the project currently, any ideas or comments left on the talk page are falling on deaf ears... help...

[edit] List of graffiti artists

Yet another page in this Project up for Deletion, this time the List of graffiti artists. Please contribute to the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of graffiti artists.--duncan 07:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Well it survived the AFD, but straight away another graffiti project page is AFD'd, List of notable graffiti posses. Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of notable graffiti posses. This page is in a much worse state than List of graffiti artists, and I don't expect it to survive the AFD process. Deletions are getting so much I'm just going to start a new subheading here to list them.--duncan 07:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletions

  • List of notable graffiti posses AFD --duncan 07:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Street Art Series

So I threw together a Street Art series template.
View and edit it here: Template:Street Art
Use it with: {{Street Art}}
I'm more on the stencil graffiti, political activism side of street art, so the links included reflect that. I feel like activism ideology, including Reclaim the streets, culture jamming, Installation art and comunity ownership reflect themes in street art as a whole. But who knows. Rework it, add or remove whatever you think necissary. Just try to keep it functional.
-Ian Evil 05:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Real Life

Do we support and encourage Graffiti in real life? Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 00:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I think an answer to that question would be: While we appreciate graffiti art in all it's forms, we do not encourage anybody to actively break graffiti related laws in their respected countries... That would be the official stance of the wikiproject anyway... People are free to have their own opinion...
Good answer. 23:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Street art by country

The "Street art by country" links in the "Graffiti" project box. Joaq99 08:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. 207.160.66.129 13:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Work

Hello, I'm Dfrg.msc, and I want to make some constructive edits to Wikipedia. It's not that I am unable to, I would just like some guidance. So, if you have any specific tasks related to this topic, please inform me on my talk page, be specific and include links and I'll help out as soon as I can. Thanks, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 07:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Notability tag: sources or AfD's?

Some good stuff done but... I've been kind of monitoring various graffiti articles for a while now and I've got to say, by and large, I'm still not overly convinced. Mainly this is because far too many articles make unsubstantiated claims - usually along the lines of "Suchandsuch has produced art work for SomeFamousCorp" - but there are almost never any sources to prove that that is true! There are other issues too, but - as of today - this is the one that has prompted me to start adding the {{notability}} and {{fact}} tags to some of these articles. So lets see some sources! (Oh, maybe I should add that I am not just trying to be negative; as soon as any of them are properly sourced I'll remove the tags and support the articles as I have been doing for the various 'Graffiti Lists' since they survived recent AfD's). Marcus22 12:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inactivity

This project seems inactive. In an attempt to try and re-start it, I am considering putting Banksy up for peer review. Any feedback is welcome on this action! --SunStar Nettalk 16:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hell, I'm not inactive! I've been doing a shitload of work on Melbourne Graffiti Artists. Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . Editor Review 23:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help Me Out

On any of these:

[edit] To do:

What do you mean Duncan? Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . Editor Review 06:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I see, Ok, fixed. Dfrg.msc 00:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Please? Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . Editor Review 23:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures of Melbourne Street Art

Hello, I'm Dfrg.msc and I've been doing a lot of work on these (see above) Melbourne Street Artists on Wikipedia.

However, I only have two pictures, found on the internet. If you have the means, I would highly appreciate your help in getting images to better illustrate the articles. If you have a digital camera and you can upload an image(s) of street art/stencil art/graffiti by any of these people (or if you don't know who it's by, upload it anyway and I can tell you), it would help me and the article it effects. Regards, Dfrg.msc 23:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Does anyone care anymore?

Obviously not, maybe it is inactive. Peter's Party is obviously off, and he was maintaining it before.

  • Due to inactivity, lack of maintenance and loss of direction, I appoint myself (Dfrg.msc) Head Co-ordinator of this Wikiproject: Namely Wikipedia: WikiProject Graffiti.


Right, thats it, I'm calling a meeting. Dfrg.msc 01:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meeting Below:

\ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dfrg.msc (talk • contribs) 01:30, 5 February 2007 (UTC). (Bloody bot!)

[edit] Recruitment

We need more hard working editors, half of those involved have less than 100 edits, I'll try and recruit some people to help us. Dfrg.msc 01:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quality over Quantity

That's what we need to focus on people, Jimmy said it and I'll say it again. Dfrg.msc 05:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Join us! Template

I'll make a template that, if someone does good job of editing a graffiti article, goes on their page requesting that they join. It's a good way to get numbers up. Dfrg.msc 05:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The template with instructions can be found at {{User:Dfrg.msc/WP:G}}. John Vandenberg 22:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need some reverse graffiti images, and info on Methods.

The Page I created on Reverse graffiti It could do with an Image, unfortunately I cant find any in Bristol to take a photo of, would appreciate a picture.

Also it would be great if there was info on the methods used for creating it.Ajuk 19:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Ajuk, I'll see if I can try to find you some Reverse Graffiti images. Dfrg.msc 22:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What?

What.. I just had a little holiday... it's not like i'm obligated to tell anyone, i'm no nerd... PeterPartyOn 05:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

What? Welcome back. What the hell are you talking about? Dfrg.msc 23:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Image tag

Please tag all Graffiti images not from commons with:

  • Category:Graffiti and unauthorised signage Image

Also, we need heaps more images of Graffiti and unauthorised signage. Some articles are very badly or not at all illustrated. Dfrg.msc 08:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Category deleted. Dfrg.msc 00:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Graffiti

Graffiti Portal

We now have a portal. While I'm fine to manage it, I may need help from time to time improving and updating it. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 07:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] god damn, please some one help me

hey guys just woundering how i can join the project? iv looked and iv looked all over this place and just cant suss it out, im sure my mother would mutter somthing about being a boy and what not.

manic_jester —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Manic jester (talk • contribs) 22:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Guerrilla art

The Guerrilla art page needs serious work. Perhaps someone involved in The Project can do a little research and help it out, before it picks up an AfD tag or worse. --Knulclunk 14:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I've done a little bit, just so save it. It does need some major work though. Dfrg.msc 23:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Voiteck

An {{afd}} tag has been placed on Voiteck, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. All Wikipedians can join the debate at Articles for deletion, where articles asserted to be inappropriate to Wikipedia are discussed. You are encouraged to submit your opinion, and remember that Articles for Deletion debates are not a vote. You can also leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the deletion tag yourself, but don't feel inhibited from editing the article, particularly if doing so makes it clear that it is a useful contribution to an encyclopaedia. John Vandenberg 22:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Damn. Dfrg.msc 12:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Free Images

I've just uploaded these:

We have been desperately lacking (free to use) Stencil Pictures, put them where they need to go. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 12:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bansky

Please be advised of the discussion happening at WP:GA/R regarding the GA status of the Bansky article. The current consensus leans towards delisting for lack of citations excess of lists, and need of copyediting. Please consider helping the article in order for it to stay a GA. --SidiLemine 10:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D*Face

Input invited. Tyrenius 11:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of street artists

Is this project inactive? If not, List of street artists is in horrible shape; plenty of self-added redlinks few if any references. A thorough cleaning is desperately required. DoubleBlue (Talk) 14:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)