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[edit] Idea for new todo box: translations

There are some articles that are getting quite mature but which have few or no translations:

Creating equivalent articles in other languages would make Wikipedians from non-English Wikipedias aware of the work we've done here, and when they build on that work, we would have further sources to draw from to improve our articles.

And in the other direction, what articles exist in other languages, or are better in other languages, that we should try to use as starting points for articles in English wikipedia or for improving the corresponding articles in English wikipedia? Gronky 15:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of other languages, I just noticed that WPFS already has an Italian sister project: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:Software_libero Gronky 19:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
It seems that three translations have since appeared for the History of free software article. That's good progress. Gronky 21:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why Wikinerd2000 Has Been Gone!

I, WikiNerd2000, have been gone because my Comcast Service was terminated for exceeding bandwidth. i will not be able to return untill atleast mid July, because I am moving. Wikinerd2000 20:38, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ILWIS - Free Software of the Month

ILWIS 3.4 Open was liberated on 1 July 2007. A GIS and remote sensing software, ILWIS is nominated as the free software of the month.

--Tharikrish 15:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The article is reasonably good but reads like a press release and the feature list is beyond unwieldy. I'll try to put some effort into this. Thanks! —mako๛ 18:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Please suggest whether ILWIS deserves something better than low-importance on the assessment scale. - Tharikrish 04:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
So, ILWIS is too new in the free software community to decide. I've asked a few friends in the GIS community about this and my understanding is that the software is not particularly important or well known in the general free software community but that people in the free software GIS community find its release as free software reasonably exciting. It might be a medium important article for a GIS article but is unlikely more than low priority for free software in general. —mako๛ 12:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
True, ILWIS is not well known in the "general" free software community. After all ILWIS is only a 15 day old FOSS baby and is presently available only on Windows. But if ILWIS can be of medium interest to the GIS community, it should of at least the same for "general" free software community, and of high importance to free GIS community. That is because free software lacks widely accepted GIS tools. ILWIS is to a large extent more popular among "general" GIS community than GRASS GIS and QGIS. Anyway the assessment in general for free software is highly skewed. Low priority articles includes Audacity, Compiere, MoinMoin, World Wind, OOo Calc, Rosegarden, Nmap, Nvu, OpenEv, Snort, SquirrelMail, TuxPaint and Xine amongst many others. Some of these software are usually hyped as "stars". ILWIS should not have any problem to keep these software company. --Tharikrish 07:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I completely agree that most of the program you mentipned seemed to have been assessed too low (I have not heard of Compiere, World Wind, or OpenEv). Each of those should be at least medium. Why don't you be bold and raise their priority? If someone disagrees, we can talk about it. This is a wiki after all. —mako๛ 16:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for not doing that. Some of the above software elevated to Mid category.--Tharikrish 17:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assesment

I now have completely assesed all the articles which haven't been rated before, with the exception of articles that were merged but still have a talk page. This isn't done perfectly and if you have any comments or if you have criticism of my work please post it here. Daimanta 15:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks Daimanta for your hard work on this! —mako๛ 12:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Great job, Daimanta. --Liπus the Turbogeek(contact me) 19:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I assesed the second batch. Daimanta 18:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should List of Unix utilities be tagged?

Should List of Unix utilities be tagged? UNIX is not free, but many (if not all) of these utility's have (often multiple) free incarnations (ie. GNU, BSD). As a new member to this project, I would rather "ask the experts" to be sure rather than just tagging it. Carpetsmoker 03:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newbie here

1. Should/Could the participants list go on a subpage?

2. I tagged the Quake engines : Talk:Quake engine, Talk:Id Tech 2, Talk:Id Tech 3, They once have been proprietary but they have been released under GPL. I'm also planning on going through CMSes and other Web apps. Is that OK?

Kl4m 03:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The participants list could go on a subpage, but it's sign that the project is alive, so maybe it's better left on the main page. ...or maybe you're right. I'm not sure.
Thanks for tagging the idsoftware articles. I've now also added {{portal|Free software|Free Software Portal Logo.svg}}. Maybe the List of liberated software article should give more detail on the free software released by idsoftware.
Going through the CMSes and noting which ones are free software would indeed be useful. Also, many articles about free software don't mention which free software licence the project uses, and/or don't provide a reference to backup the licence information. These are also problems worth fixing.
Welcome to WP Free Software! Gronky 09:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I will be replacing {{portal|Free software|Free Software Portal Logo.svg}} with {{portal|Free software|Free Software Portal Logo.svg}} whenever I see it. Maybe some replace bot could do that, though. -- Kl4m Talk Contrib 01:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
It's an opportunity for me to experiment with AutoWikiBrowser. I'm going to see what I can do for these templates. -- Kl4m Talk Contrib —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 04:38, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

I would like to stress that it is pretty important to add classes and importance factors to the WPFS tag. That way it isn't neccesairy to periodically tag al unclassed articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daimanta (talk • contribs) 18:50, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Kl4m-AWB is currently replacing all the portal boxes with a new version.The image has been copied to WP so it can easily be changed, unlike the Commons version. Bot approval is here. -- Kl4m Talk Contrib 00:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Beaver (text editor)

Beaver (text editor) (via WP:PROD on 2007-09-29) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 11:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PROD and AFD: Jzip

Jzip (via WP:PROD on 2007-08-27) Kept

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
What he means to say is that the Jzip article was proposed for deletion on 2007-08-24, and that it may be deleted on 2007-08-29. It isn't tagged for WP:FS, but then again it was proposed for deletion less than two hours after it was created. RossPatterson 18:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Freeware != Free Software so it shouldn't matter to this wikiproject anyway. -- Diletante 22:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


This was taken to AFD and subsequently deleted; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JZip. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

JZip at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JZip (2007-09-05 – 2007-09-10) Deleted

updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox software license

I created this template Template:Infobox software license, it's an infobox to describe a license as the name suggests. What do you think of it? --Argento3 21:22, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

It seems very FOSS-centric, but I have no idea how it couldn't be. -- Kl4m Talk Contrib 00:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paint.NET

The Paint.NET raster image program seems to fit the criteria for inclusion in this WikiProject. I've added the Talk Page template to its talk page, but left it unassessed. My apologies if this was the wrong proect to add it to. =David(talk)(contribs) 20:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

User_talk:David#Re:_Paint.NET. -- Kl4m Talk Contrib 05:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiNerd Is Back

It's just a little problem with Comcast. Ya know the bandwidth thingy. Just got it back!! Wikinerd2000 20:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A webpage button?

If someone could make a nice 88x31 pixel button, people could show their support for WPFS on their homepages. A bit like the Wikipedia userboxes, but it should be a solid image (jpeg or png) for use on non-wikipedia websites. 88x31 is a good size because then it would fit well with the w3c "valid html" buttons that are already on a lot of webpages [1]. A button for Portal:Free Software would be good too. Any takers? --Gronky 12:48, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sure!

Sure, I'll try to make one asap! Wikinerd2000 08:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAR for X Window System

X Window System has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 15:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion and AFD: KoffeePhoto

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 17:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Afd: "Free and open source software"

There is an article on "free and open source software". I've suggested that it be deleted. The discussion is here:

Input sought. --Gronky 11:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Pointbase

Pointbase (via WP:PROD on 2007-10-12) Kept

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: Ultimate Pricechecker

Ultimate Pricechecker (via WP:PROD on 2007-10-19) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Afd: Free and open source software

As mentioned previously, FYI: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Free_and_open_source_software --Gronky 13:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Result of AfD was Keep

discuss a merger at Talk:Free_and_open_source_software#Merge_FS_.2B_OSS_here Lentower 01:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PaX is listed at FAR

PaX has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Pagrashtak 19:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

It seems PaX lost its Featured status. AFAICT, there are now only 3 free software articles with featured status: Mozilla Firefox, OpenBSD, X Window System. If anyone knows of others, please update Portal:Free software/Wikipedia featured articles. --Gronky (talk) 15:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PROD: Wavosaur

Wavosaur (via WP:PROD on 2007-12-01) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PROD: BootSkin

BootSkin (via WP:PROD on 2007-11-27) Kept

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion: QtiPlot

QtiPlot (via WP:PROD on 2008-01-04) Kept

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
updated Technobadger (talk) 16:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed AFD: Brave GNU World

Technobadger (talk) 12:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
updated Technobadger (talk) 16:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Articles about KDE developers?

I attended KDE 4.0 release event and made a number photos of commons:Category:KDE developers. There are also photos of Haavard Nord (Trolltech/Qt, see also de:Haavard Nord) and John H. Terpstra (Samba).

Anybody interested to write articles about them? However I'm not sure about notability threshold.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 19:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, there's a Haavard Nord article on the German WP. I can't find any John H. Terpstra articles. Either way, these pictures could be used in other articles such as the KDE 4 article (although, there's currently a discussion about merging that into the KDE article). --Gronky (talk) 15:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anyone able to make banner ad for WPFS?

There is a Wikipedia project called Template:Wikipedia_ads which displays ads for Wikipedia projects. If someone has the time and ability, we should submit an ad there. It might help attract contributors. --Gronky (talk) 15:47, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Strawpoll on Talk:Alternative_terms_for_free_software#Survey

There is a strawpoll on whether or not to merge Alternative terms for free software into the free and open source software article. --Gronky (talk) 13:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drupal interview

Dear all,

I'm preparing a Wikinews interview with Dries Buytaert, the head of Drupal. It would be very helpful if you could suggest questions on the interview preparation page.

cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About GNU/Linux terminology

Jimbo Wales has posted this comment on User_talk:Thumperward#Re:_your_project_.22Refer_to_Linux_consistently.22:

I would like to offer my opinion. The project to excise all references to GNU/Linux is deeply POV and wrong. It should be reverted completely and totally as quickly as possible. Virtually all references to Linux should be references to GNU/Linux. I am certainly unaware of any community consensus which would support the draconian and absurd campaign that has been conducted against the correct naming convention.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 01:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Just FYI. ("The project" refers to a project by one Wikipedian, Thumperward aka Chris Cunningham) --Gronky (talk) 12:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite for Apache James

The Apache James article was deleted last November. I asked the admin to move it to my userspace at User:Ham Pastrami/Apache James. I will take the responsibility of rewriting it, but of course will welcome the assistance of other editors to improve the article and make it as good as it can be so it will not be nominated again (or survive if it does). I have posted 4 working sources on the page that can be used as independent references. Anything you can do to assist, including editing, sourcing, or providing images is appreciated. Ham Pastrami (talk) 17:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Free software maintainers who are also Wikipedians

I co-maintain a nontrivial Free Software project which has an article. The article has various places where citations are needed. I know of reliable sources where some of these things are stated, and I suppose for others of them I myself could make pronouncements about what is and isn't policy or history or whatever and post them somewhere on the relevant site. I've been a Wikipedian now for four years, but I haven't wanted to edit that particular article much because of WP:COI. Should I make changes? Should I be asking people what needs saying and then tipping them off when it's said? Marnanel (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You probably should just list information sources on the talk page, and let people roll with it from there. If I don't think I can make a particular edit for an article, I tend to play it that way. But because of the vanity rules, you're pretty much forbidden from editing an article you're directly related to. 74.13.52.11 (talk) 21:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free games

There is a joint AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free games that has nominated both Free games and Open source video games for deletion. I would invite your WikiProject to comment on this AfD, and to potentially help come to a consensus as to what to do with them -- RoninBK T C 22:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that the suggestions for deletions are sometimes too quickly accepted. Why should an information be deleted? Take care of this! Its close to burning books! Anyone remember who did this and why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwwolf3 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment on Linux

An RfC for the long-standing naming issue / flame war regarding the terms "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" has been opened here. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article review request

Dear all, Could you review the article about LeechCraft and say what should be enhanced and what requires further work?

0xd34df00d (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)