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[edit] Project proposal

From the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals:

[edit] Former Featured Articles WikiProject

Scope

According to Wikipedia:Former featured articles, there are over 400 articles that at one time met the Featured article criteria. Many of these were demoted for minor reasons that could easily be fixed by a dedicated group of editors. This project aims to dramatically increase the number of featured articles by first focusing on those former FAs closest to meeting the criteria, and working its way to those in need of more help. This would be done through scheduled collaborations on said articles. While all editors are welcome to join, editors with experience creating FAs, especially those with strong copyediting skills and/or knowledge of MoS are most needed. There is no reason for wikipedia to have any "former" FAs. It should be top priority to maintain them. "Once an FA, always an FA." is the eventual goal of this project.

Members
  1. Wrad 02:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
  2. Elfalem 18:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC) - I don't really have any experience with FAs but I think it's important that there should be no former FAs so I want to participate in any way that I can.
  3. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC) - I've put up a few FACs so am getting a handle on this.
  4. Buc 15:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC) Sounds good.
  5. David Fuchs (talk) 15:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC) - can't argue with that.
  6. User:Izzy007
  7. Hydrogen Iodide (HI!) 20:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  8. FunPika 01:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
  9. Bardofcornish 19:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  10. Lquilter (talk) 20:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Comments

I think the criteria for determining what constitutes an FA may have changed over the years, and that is probably one of the primary reasons for there being so many former FAs. Nevertheless, I would welcome the existence of such a group, even if I, who have trouble doing even Start-Class articles, would be basically useless to it. John Carter 18:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

It's true, the criteria has changed, so some former FAs are nowhere near close to passing, but several are very close. I was also thinking that this project could be a "rescue squad" for article under FA review. Wrad 14:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree that any articles "were demoted for minor reasons that could easily be fixed", but applaud your efforts. Here is a list of articles that may need citation attention. It's not easy to cite someone else's work after the fact, but I wish your Project the best of luck. The Emsworth articles are a good place to start. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree that any articles "were demoted for minor reasons that could easily be fixed", but applaud your efforts. -- I'm getting this from a lot of people, and it's completely untrue. Take a look at Columbine Massacre and The Simpsons, both demoted for minor reasons that could easily be fixed. Quit saying it's impossible but that you applaud our efforts and sign up! Wrad 18:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer, but my hands are full trying to salvage featured status at WP:FAR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

A reminder note. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Io (moon) has a reminder I usually put at the top for Raul; if he isn't made aware that an article is an WP:FFA and has already been on the main page (be sure to check), on promotion, he may add it back to WP:FA without noting that it's already been on the main page (I believe this happened with Pluto). Please remember to add this reminder for Raul if you bring any FFAs back to FAC, and to add a link to the FARC, so reviewers can see that all concerns have been addressed. When articles are re-promoted, they are moved to the re-promoted category at the bottom of WP:FFA, the overall tally doesn't change, but the re-promoted tally is incremented. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

One other thing that might work would be to notify the various projects which have an interest in an article that it is a former featured article. Many projects have a section of their project page listing their FAs, GAs, former FAs and GAs, and whatnot. It might be useful to get them a bit more actively involved as well. John Carter 20:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
There already is a project page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Featured articles which deals with all featured articles, past and present. Maybe you all could do this work within that project. The page could probably use some improvement as well. John Carter 14:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
That project is inactive, has 2 participants, and was created after this proposal was made. FunPika 01:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I think we should make it bigger and active. How about we just all join that project with this as part of our goal? Wrad 20:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • This would be a very useful project. All too often articles, once brought to FA status, are effectively abandoned, or the subject of POV-pushing. Even basic template work needs to be done, to capture the version originally accorded FA status. Periodic re-reviews could be done to ensure articles are staying at quality. --Lquilter (talk) 16:33, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
The project now has a page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Former Featured articles. John Carter (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maximum kudos points then....

OK, stuff which (a) would be a core-ish or vitalish article and (b) not under the auspices of another active wikiproject and (c) probably a big job for someone on their own is a good place to start. I would have added vampire here but that's being polished off rather nicely as we speak to go to FAC sometime soon.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe consider:

as good starts..cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)