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[edit] WikiProject:Southern Europe talkpage

[edit] Southern Europe discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

Description: This project would have as its primary work the creation, expansion, and maintainance of articles related to the nations and territories of Southern Europe, including Albania, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Gibraltar, Greece, Italy, Republic of Macedonia, Malta, Portugal, San Marino, Slovenia, Spain, Vatican City, and Yugoslavia.

Temporary project page:
Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern Europe

User: Badbilltucker

Interested Wikipedians:

Comments: It is understood that this project would devote the majority of its efforts to those countries which are not already within the scope of another regional or national project.

I'm sponsoring a potential project on Microstates; perhaps this could be incorporated into that, since a lot of the other countries that aren't microstates have WikiProjects of their own? Let me know if you have any questions. matt91486 05:21, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Albania merge

Since it is an inactive project, I suggest merging it into this one. Chris 07:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Support such a merger. John Carter 16:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Please make sure to remember that BERATI in ALBANIA has never been called "The city of a thousand windows". It is always called " The city of ONE ABOVE THE OTHER WINDOWS" Thank You 216.118.190.9 02:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment perhaps a merger to Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Europe might make more sense. This project is really only a caretaker for national pages until they get their own WikiProjects. I'm not sure we should start going the other way (merging national projects into this one) even if they are inactive. On the other hand a task force albeit part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Europe mat be the wat to go. Caveat lector 15:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Debate on the correct adjective for Kosovo

Hi! Based on your interest in the Balkans, you may be interested in the currently ongoing debate on whether we should be using Kosovo or Kosovar/Kosovan as the adjective for Kosovo. —Nightstallion 16:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: WikiProject Europe

Hi, I was wondering what the relationship is between this project, Wikipedia:WikiProject Former Yugoslavia and Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Europe. You all overlap on the Western Balkans so I was wondering if you guys had defined your scopes with that in mind.

In addition, I was noting down the related projects for Wikipedia:WikiProject European Union and number of small European projects as I was going round. How do you guys feel about a parent "WIkiProject Europe" to link together as many European projects at the top (not merge, unless some fell the need to)? It could help discussion and cooperation between projects and possibly reduce overheads for the smaller ones. In addition for areas with no project of their own. Where a project has few members or is inactive, a common peer-assessment could help them move forward.

Ideas? For central discussion, see WIkiproject EU talk page - J Logan t: 11:59, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Europe discussion from Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

Description 
This project will cover all cross-border aspects Europe, bar that covered by national projects. This is direly needed and already has support. See proposal page here for details.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. User:JLogan (proposor)
  2. Rossenglish
  3. Son
Comments

Hook up with Wikipedia:WikiProject European Union. Chris 06:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposals

I have a number of proposals for the running of the project;

  1. New logo, hold a contest or something.
  2. We have join peer assessment with WP:EU - that is already undeveloped so both would benifit.
  3. A new selected content scheme for the portal. If an article is FA, and still complies to that standard, and has a European slant (in or outside our scope so long as it is European), it can be nominated to become selected exceptional content for the Europe portal, EU portal could share the scheme and just remove items outside the EU.
  4. Get a bot to change all project banners so we don't need the redirect.
  5. Basic taskfoce for all countries with no national project, nominate leaders to control their early development.

Thoughts? - J Logan t: 15:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, we have a logo. Extra point is the project template. Does anyone have skills in the area of editing it? We need to add taskforce capability to it. Further more, once we are up and running properly, I say we go on a recruitment drive - also create an ad for Template:Wikipedia_ads - J Logan t: 18:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Albania

No replies have been heard from the members of WikiProject Albania. They have made no changes to their project page in months. I propose we go ahead with the merger previously proposed for S.EUR. A point was made in the S.EUR discussion that E.EUR might be better. The scope has changed now are we are not so much caretakers as S.EUR was. In addition, we might be able to capitalise on a start-up momentum which E.EUR is lacking. Can the members of this project please voice their opinions on whether we should merger Albania in, propose E.EUR take it on or do nothing. - J Logan t: 19:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

  • support merge-it's an inactive project, and this is a really much nicer, clearer approach. Chris 21:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help with European

Hello. Currently, many European links redirect to Europe. Can anyone help with correcting that and redirect European to the newly created disambiguation page European?? KarenAER 19:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Sure, you should also try to get a bot to go round and change them though. It's faster. - J Logan t: 16:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Macedonia

Since that project was deleted through Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject ROMacedonia, the articles tagged with Template:WPMK should now come under this project, perhaps as a workgroup like Slovenia and Albania. Chris 18:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject History

WikiProject History now has a European task force. I am considering merging WikiProject European history with that task force if no one objects--Phoenix 15 (Talk) 13:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why they made a taskforce instead of restarting the project, but hey. Yes I have no problems, we could get some co-op going. - J Logan t: 17:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
I have objected to the deprecation (historicalization) of Wikipedia:WikiProject European history. The scope is so large that it deserves its own project. Country projects with joint historical (especially military) task forces exist and some countries already have their own history projects. Having a large and significant region relegated to a task force when smaller internal areas have or may justify their own historical projects is problematic. Further, I don't see that this project is {{inactive}}. Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject European history--Doug.(talk • contribs) 23:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Well if it is not inactive then yes, keep the project. Just tie in to WP:HIST to get more coop and members.- J Logan t: 10:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article for deletion: Arpitania

Arpitania at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arpitania (2007-12-16 –)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Europe topic and Rapid transit in Europe

I have just created a template Rapid transit in Europe and would welcome improvement. It is adapted from Template:Europe topic although currently there will be only one transclusion until other articles are created. Some places may also needed to be removed due to lack of in that area. Simply south (talk) 21:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

All the other links in it are redlinks, why was it created if there is only one article?- J Logan t: 09:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I thought the current template {{Europe topic}} was wrong as certain countries and dependencies do not have rapid transit\metro\subway systems. This was already set up before on Rapid transit in the United Kingdom.
v • d • e
Rapid transit in Europe
Sovereign
states

Albania · Andorra · Armenia1 · Austria · Azerbaijan2 · Belarus · Belgium · Bosnia and Herzegovina · Bulgaria · Croatia · Cyprus1 · Czech Republic · Denmark4 · Estonia · Finland · France4, 5, 6 · Georgia2 · Germany · Greece · Hungary · Iceland · Republic of Ireland · Italy · Kazakhstan3 · Latvia · Liechtenstein · Lithuania · Luxembourg · Republic of Macedonia · Malta · Moldova · Monaco · Montenegro · Netherlands · Norway · Poland · Portugal · Romania · Russia3 · San Marino · Serbia · Slovakia · Slovenia · Spain6 · Sweden · Switzerland · Turkey3 · Ukraine · United Kingdom (England • Northern Ireland • Scotland • Wales)
Dependencies,
autonomies,
other territories

Abkhazia 2 · Adjara1 · Akrotiri and Dhekelia · Åland · Azores · Crimea · Faroe Islands · Gagauzia · Gibraltar · Greenland7 · Guernsey · Jan Mayen · Jersey · Kosovo · Isle of Man · Madeira8 · Nagorno-Karabakh1 · Nakhchivan1 · Northern Cyprus1 · Republika Srpska · South Ossetia 2 · Svalbard · Transnistria
Italics indicates an unrecognised or partially recognised country. 1 Entirely in Southwest Asia.  2 Partially or entirely in Asia, depending on the border definitions.  3 / 4 / 5 / 6 Has part of its territory in Asia / North America / South America / Africa.  7 / 8 Entirely on the North American Plate / African Plate.
I suppose i should just move it to my userspce until future? Simply south (talk) 11:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps, I really don't see much difference from the europetopic one, considering there is only one article I really don't see its use.- J Logan t: 13:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I think it could be useful, but you would need make some of the red links first. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Right, so we're creating articles for nav boxes now are we? I'm quite sure it is meant to be the other way around...- J Logan t: 15:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Besides, the only difference between that and the standard template is the exclusion of the Vatican.- J Logan t: 15:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
But all those things should have been up on wikipedia anyway. So its not like they werent needed in the first place. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 15:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Europe template and greenland

I suggest at least some sort of mention of greenland in the template. Although geographically situated on the North American plate (Madeira is situated on the African one, but is still considered 'Europe'), it is politically, socially, economically, ethnically, and culturally tied to with Europe. It is in fact a territory of the Denmark, a country which Im sure no one would argue is not of European. Even if a footnote is being attatched, it should still have some mention inside the template. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 12:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

also, can someone helping me here? I would like to contribute to this project, but I do not understanding much about it at the moment. My english is almost perfect, so I hope that there will not be a lacking of communication between us. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 13:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Greenland doesent have to be mentiond , because it is part of denmark . As the faroe islands arent mentiond either--Bindicapriqi (talk) 14:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Then the faroe islands should be mentioned too. In the template, there is a section for dependancies and territories. They should go there. There needs to be at least some kind of consistancy Crystalclearchanges (talk) 15:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I dont understand what you mean . If you are talking about  : Template : Europe non-sovergin territories , they are mentiond there , but if you are talking about the sovergin countryes (which I thought you where talking about) they cant be mention there because they are part of Denmark --Bindicapriqi (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Kosovo relaunched

Editors may wish to be aware that Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo has been relaunched to help coordinate editing and facilitate monitoring of Kosovo-related articles. I will be sponsoring the project. If you have any queries about it, please ask me on my talk page or use Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Kosovo.

If you wish to become involved, please feel free to do so - simply leave your username at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo#Participants. One feature that you may find particularly useful is the public watchlist. If you click here you can see all the recent changes to articles listed on the watchlist.

There is still a lot of work to be done on getting the project off the ground, so your help would be welcomed. In particular:

  • The public watchlist needs to be populated with all Kosovo-related articles (and redirects), categories, images and templates. I've added as many as I've found so far but more need to be added.

-- ChrisO (talk) 22:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Possible task forces for Hungary and Moldova?

Neither of the two countries above has at this point a group dealing specifically with them. Would the members of this project be interested in creating task forces for these entities? At the very least, creation of them now would make it less likely that a subsequent independent project would have to be merged back into this project later. John Carter (talk) 20:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I would agree that Hungary at least should be created, but I'd suggest as a task force of WP:EEUROPE--Doug.(talk • contribs) 22:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
If anyone is interested in such projects, they are free to indicate as much at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory#Hungary work group or Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory#Moldova work group. John Carter (talk) 15:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kosovo

In light of Kosovo's declaration of independence expected today, there would no doubt be a lot of updating of terms on Wikipedia. However, of course, there would be a lot of disagreements given not every country would recognise it. I'd propose that for articles under our scope we do of course make the necessary clarification but where we face problems we follow the policy of the majority of European states with that settled in the event of Kosovo joining the Council of Europe.- J Logan t: 11:15, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. However, I get the impression that most of the activity will actually be taking place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo, and that you might want to make a similar statement there. John Carter (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review

Is there a peer review for this wikiproject? I would like to get Europe reviewed here as well as atWP:PR. Harland1 (t/c) 19:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Europe

Hello WikiProject Europe! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 20:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Constitution of Belarus

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[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Yugoslav people

Category:Yugoslav people and its subcategories have been nominated for renaming to Category:Yugoslavian people (etc.). If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 12:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project banner

Would the members of this project object to having the project banner adjusted to allow independent assessments for the various countries which also use the banner? I'm thinking here of Slovenia, and Albania, and it may also be possible to get the various other projects for European nations which don't yet have assessments to use it as well. John Carter (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge articles

European Radio Network and Euranet need to be merged, as they're two different articles about the same thing. I don't know enough about it to determine which is the more appropriate title, however, so I'm bringing it to your attention. Bearcat (talk) 15:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slovenia

HI there. Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Slovenia now has 15 members and is growing almost by day. Given that many of the members are active would anybody approve of moving this project to its own wikiproject name rather than a taskforce? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't see any objections myself, given that the project groups for almost all independent countries bear the "WikiProject" name. However, that doesn't mean that they would necessarily use a separate banner. I could adjust the existing project banner to provide separate assessments for both Europe and any other countries that would wish to use it. John Carter (talk) 15:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History templates

Why are these templates so diverse? This seems pretty bad when more of them are used in a single article. See for example [1] (they have been removed from there, fortunately). I think a single design should be chosen but how do we go about it? Should we have a poll? --Eleassar my talk 09:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Please give your opinion about Proposal II on how to define Central Europe

Give your support or opposition at the Central Europe talk page, since we are looking for a single, comprehensive definition for it, and the topic is under ardent debate, close to an edit war. Pundit|utter 01:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 18:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)