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Contents 1 Operation: Cleanup 2 two-handers

[edit] Operation: Cleanup

The character articles are dire at the moment and need a lot of cleaning up. References and out of universe content needs to be added, but our main focus for the moment should be to clear up all the crap and drive lthat's been written on them, and condense irrelevant and long-winded material. I think we should assess all the articles and see which are in most need of cleaning - I've made a start :) -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Article	Assessment/comments	OOU section?	Cleaned up?
Ian Beale	Needs updating, spell/grammar checking	Y
Dot Branning	Needs condensing, less sections, less on Pauline's death/Tomas, needs information on Jim's illness and what's happened since, needs referencing	N (has pop culture section)	Plot 2002-present majorly reduced 31 Jan [1] Rest of plot reduced 12 Feb [2]
Pat Evans	Needs condensing, less on Pat vs. Shirley/Joan Harris/Steven, Joan's past can go in the background section, needs references	Y (incomplete)	condensed added creation (Mar 2008)
Ricky Butcher	Needs more references and OOU stuff. Plot needs rewriting in places because (and I noticed this a long time ago) A lot of it appears to have been lifted directly from Walford web [3] by SweetiePetie back in 2006 [4]	Y (incomplete)|OOU started April 2008.
Steven Beale	Needs watching for user Lizzie Brooks, who's desperate to inclue way too much information.	Y	OOU section added 4/3/08
Phil Mitchell	All the storylines could do with condesing, particularly recent stuff. The OOU stuff can now be extended with sources on Stella etc., "Jack Branning" section - what the fuck!?	Y
Peggy Mitchell	Needs referencing	Y (incomplete)	OOU added 23/3/08
Bianca Jackson	I think this is pretty good. Might add an OOU section on David from stuff in that docu	Y
Clare Bates	Needs references, OOU section	Y	OOU added 2/3/08
Lucy Beale	Steven's return needs condensing. It really wasnt about Lucy, so doesnt need to be so long. This article needs watching, as some Lucy fan is obsessed with reincluding every thing she's ever done! Needs references	N	Condensed 28/01/08
Peter Beale	Needs watching for fangirls - stuff about Ben and Steven needs to be vastly condensed, needs references, needs major cleanup/condensing	N	I've never seen so much crap in one article before. I got rid (April 08)
Ben Mitchell (EastEnders)	Plot condensing, MoS/grammar/spelling checks, needs OOU section, there must be loads of references to do with the Stella storyline and Charlie Jones's crap acting...	N	Condensed (April 2008)
Liam Butcher	More OOU stuff if we can find it.	Y (incomplete)
Billy Mitchell (EastEnders)	Needs references, OOU section would be easy with Down's syndrome stuff. Praise for Perry Fenwick: [5]	N
Charlie Slater	Needs references	N
Garry Hobbs	Needs references
Mo Harris		Y	OOU section added 16 Feb
Patrick Trueman
Minty Peterson	needs refs, needs OOU stuff.	N	cu storylines (April 08)
Gus Smith
Mickey Miller		Y	OOU added, storylines condensed May 08
Bobby Beale
Yolande Trueman
Jane Beale		N	Attempted storyline reduction, could possibly use more.
Darren Miller
Keith Miller (EastEnders)
Stacey Branning	Major plot condensing needed, several sources for an OOU section are on the talk page.	Y (incomplete)	Plot condensed (by 14000 bytes!) 16 Feb [6] OOU started.
Jean Slater
Dawn Swann
Honey Mitchell	Needs references/OOU section, Down's syndrome storyline would be easy to write an OOU section on - needs condensing. This article is a mess! where's the stuff about her introduction gone?	Y	condensed (April 08), OOU section added
Bradley Branning	Stacey and Bradley stuff needs major condensing; interview:[7]
Chelsea Fox	OOU needed, sources	N	condensed and removed POV (april 08)
Denise Wicks	Controversial storyline reference: [8]	N	Condensed (April 08)
Libby Fox		N
Tanya Branning	Storyline condensing - Oscar's birth doesn't warrant its own section, Rainie section needs to be reduced. Trivia section requires merging into the main text of the article. Praise for Jo Joyner's acting: [9]		Reduced 22 Jan, trivia moved to small OOU section.
Abi Branning	Remove trivial information, needs references	N	Plot condensed [10] Plot condensed again on 13 Apr [11]
Lauren Branning	Major condensing. Probably a rewrite. An awful article.		Plot seriously reduced 09/03/08 [12]
Sean Slater	Rewrite in places. Remove the OR and POV throughout, particularly the personality section. Check for tone. Too many headers, too detailed, too many one sentence paragraphs. Major condensing. Sourcing, some quotes from Kazinsky are unsourced too, and an OOU section is needed. I think this is one of the worst.	Y (incomplete)	Condensed, rewritten etc Mar 08 Gungadin 23:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC) OOU sections started 1 May [13]
Janet Mitchell		Y (incomplete)	Some OOU content added 13 Apr [14]
Shirley Carter	needs more sources, and OOU stuff	N	done loads of condesing (april 08)
Jay Brown	Article about stabbing storyline: [15]		Plot reduced 22 Jan.
Hazel Hobbs		N
Summer Swann	Possibly merge to minors.	n/a	Merged 22 Jan
Heather Trott	Plot needs reducing, cleaning up	Y (incomplete)	Plot reduced and cleaned up 13 Apr [16], OOU section started 13 Apr [17]
Zainab Masood		Y
Shabnam Masood		Y
Jase Dyer	Stuff about the gang storyline: [18][19]
Roxy Mitchell	Storyline condensing - too many sections, MoS/spelling/grammar checks needed		Plot substantially reduced on 22 Jan.[20]
Ronnie Mitchell	Major storyline condensing. Ridiculous amount of plot info for a character that isnt even a year old	Y	Plot substantially reduced on 21 Jan.[21] Further reduced on 1st Feb 2008. OOU section added
Tamwar Masood	Has OOU section. Nothing more to do here at the moment. Has barely been featured.	Y
Vinnie Monks	Fine at the moment.	Y
Masood Ahmed		Y
Jack Branning	Plot condensing, needs references and an OOU section; interview that can be harvested for quotes: [22]	Y	Plot condensed [23] Added 'Creation', 'Development' and 'Reception' sections, over a dozen references, and around 9kb OOU content, 24 Feb [24]
William Mitchell (EastEnders)	Should probably be merged into minors list		Merged 22 Jan.
Oscar Branning	Needs merging into the minors list in my opinion.		Merged 22 Jan.
Christian Clarke	Update with interview from here[25]. Good OOU stuff and comments from actor	Y
Sal Martin
Rachel Branning	If we can find some sources, she might be able to have her own page.	N
Rainie Cross
Whitney Dean
Tiffany Dean
Morgan Jackson-King

This has been really productive hasn't it? I wouldnt have ever bothered cleaning up some of these current characters if it wasnt for this. I dont think I had even read half of them before. Do you think we should create a subpage from here and make a much larger table, with the aim to include every character page past and present? It would help outline what we need to do for all the past characters too, and we could also direct to it from the project's main page, so if any random users want to get involved, they can visit the page and see what needs to be done? I know this would take ages, but it could get filled out bit by bit, like this one. Gungadin 21:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I really like that idea. We could have it at Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders/Operation: Cleanup. -Trampikey^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] two-handers

Shall we put these in a table format, and delete most of the long plot info? Gungadin 15:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you think any of the episodes are notable enough to warrant an article of their own? I'm not sure about most of the two-handers, but I think the Dot single-hander probably has sufficient notability and potential sources to stand on its own merit... Frickative (talk) 16:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeh, good idea, the single hander definitely could have its own page, but doubt the others could. Den and Angie is a possibility, as it was the first and is still talked about in the media. A lot of them would have had many media sources at the time they aired, but we wont be able to get hold of them now.Gungadin 17:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the two-handers article as it is has a decent amount of potential for expansion with real world info - just now was the first time I'd actually read it, and I found it really interesting... while the plot info could use condensing, I think it'd be a shame to convert it just to a table. Isn't there a guideline that says about 100 words is acceptable plot info for every ten mins of screentime? So 300 words of plot ought to be fine for each episode, as long as additional real world info could be found to support it... Perhaps if it came to it, the less notable episodes could be put in to table format, and the ones with remaining media sources discussed a bit more thoroughly? I think I'm just thinking aloud now, so instead I'll go see what sources I can actually dig up :p Frickative (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Here we are - just about every source I could find is here :) Frickative (talk) 19:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

That's excellent, I can see you're very good at finding sources :) I think there's also a source on the talk page from the guardian, but you might have it in there alredy.Gungadin 22:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)