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[edit] More tasks

Instead of writing articles for the red links quoted above, I there are a few other things we should IMO give priority. I've listed them below. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red links

First of all, we should really have a discussion about the question whether we REALLY want those articles. If we put up a list of red links in the Portal (a featured portal, mind ;) ), we should at least be able to promise the person who writes it that it will "in all likeliness" survive an AfD. Looking at the list above, I'm far from sure we can do that in all cases.

This is more or less the same issue Kaleissin addressed on Jon's talk page. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template

See here. Jon made a proposal, and I made one based on Jon's. I'm not going to advertise mine in comparison with Jon's. The basic difference is that Jon tries to cover almost all conlang-related articles, while I tried to limit myself to the most important stuff. Anyway, I think we should find an answer to the question which one to use:

  • Jon's
  • Mine
  • Something else
  • No template at all.

—IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I slightly prefer yours to Jon's, but I think it needs to be pruned even further. It's roughly the same size or even larger than some of the smaller conlang articles, which seems excessive. Probably it should just link to the main articles about types of conlang, and maybe some articles about conlang-related matters like Relexification and Translation relay, with very few if any links to specific languages. --Jim Henry 20:06, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Agreed - the point should be to link to general information about conlangs, not to send them to every other conlang page. It's not a webring :) DenisMoskowitz 19:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Templates and added {{Conlang}}. Added 'notable' wording but didn't actually prune the list; someone else please do so. Templates displayed on all pages should be slender and widely applicable. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 01:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order instead of Chaos

The way the article Constructed language is set up, is actually quite clear. But there are a lot of subpages that overlap, contain double and sometimes conflicting data... In short, I think it would be worth to reorganise this whole thing a little.

—IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, never mind, I've already done most of that. I've merged all lists found under artistic language, fictional language, list of fictional languages, international auxiliary language, engineered language, and the list of constructed languages itself into one renewed and fairly complete list of constructed languages. The other lists have been replaced with a link pointing to the corresponding section of the latter.
I've expanded the description of "fictional language" somewhat in artistic language#fictional languages. Right now, neither fictional language nor the list of fictional languages have any info that can't be found on artistic language or the list of constructed languages. In other words, in my opinion they should both become redirects. That also solves the discussion about a merger of fictional language with its corresponding list.
That's at least my idea. But there is a possible alternative solution: that we move the entire list of constructed languages#fictional languages back to the list of fictional languages and replace it with a link to it. It's not my preferred solution, because there is quite some overlap between fictional languages and other artistic languages and we will soon end up with new doublets again. But before I go on and turn articles into redirects, I'd appreciate some input first. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 12:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
I say you've done a good thing - let's leave it like that. DenisMoskowitz 16:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. So, what precisely do you mean? Turn fictional language and list of fictional languages into redirects, then? —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 18:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gibson Code

I added a stub for Gibson Code, which is as far as I can tell a constructed language. If anyone who watches this page knows anything more about it, please help the stub along. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

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  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language codes for constructed languages

I've made a table of language codes for constructed languages. Is this suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia? And if so, where? (I would need to add some words of explanation, of course.) --Zundark 16:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Moved to ISO, SIL, and BCP language codes for constructed languages. Please check for articles about language codes for other languages, copy their metainfo, and link both to an from. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 01:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Esperanto task force

I've just created an Esperanto task force to tag, assess, create, and maintain articles on Esperanto in particular. I've already tagged and assessed every known article in Category:Esperanto and all of its subcategories, but the task force is still very basic. I'm trying to create the {{Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Constructed_language_articles_by_quality_statistics}} chart for Esperanto-specific articles, but I'm not sure how to do it. Help would be greatly appreciated. TFCforever

I don't think you can do so easily. The current chart (on the WP:CL main page) is auto-generated by bot. It understands 'quality' and 'importance' (the latter tag is messed up in {{WP conlangs}} - needs fixing; I made {{WP conlangs sandbox}} but something's wrong in it). It doesn't know any other tags TTBOMK. You could make a bot for the purpose, or make a new category.... dunno really. Try asking on WP:1.0? Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 06:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional Language article/category

The article Fictional language is, for some reason, not the main article for Category:Fictional languages. I don't know how this would be fixed, so I'm alerting you folks. Bowmanjj (talk) 09:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Y Done This could also be done by editing the category page to have a text intro with a link to Fictional language. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 10:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

If any of you guys wants to advertise your membership, I made a userbox for it.

Conlang WikiProject
 This user a member of WikiProject Constructed Languages.


Which is {{User Conlang-Wikiproject}} correct it if you want, I don't really care. Manu-vetalk pro Skicontribs 22:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Userbox. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Templates. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 00:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notice of FAR

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[edit] Kesen

Can anyone please check the article Kesen language?

It is categorized as "constructed", but it looks more like a standardization of a local dialect, and it has problematic sources too.

Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Discuss it at Talk:Kesen language#Constructed. In any case, controlled languages are also within the scope of WP:CL. I personally know nothing about it and my Japanese is too poor to comprehend the links given, but the article text does appear to indicate that there was creative authorship involved in some way, even if the language is largely a posteriori from some existing dialect. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 06:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanto profanity

I have begun this urgently needed article. Please feel free to expand it. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 01:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)