Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing/Archive 1

I've made this Temlate in hope that it will serve as a fun and funky way of expressing your personal computer's components; and that it will also be a great way to learn about the individual parts and features that constitute a computer. It is easily accesible (copy and paste!) and very easy to fill out. The links will serve an education function to everyone on Wikipedia.

You can also show off your Box, or in my case provoke pity. Feel free to have it, and use it in anyway. Thanks, Dfrg.msc Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg 07:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Shortcut

Shortcut created! Dfrg.msc Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg 07:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Shortcut: WP:COMP

Power Point

Hello, I am TrackerTV from WP:PCP. We need to collaborate with you on the new disambiguation Power Point. Please talk with us at WT:PCP. Tracker/TTV (myTalk|myWork|myInbox) 20:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Scope of project

Do articles such as IBM PC compatible fall under the scope of this project? What about Sun-4? --StuartBrady (Talk) 11:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiBrowse

I just spotted WikiBrowse a wikipedia only webbrowser. It seems lacking in notability to me, does anyone here want to take a look. --Salix alba (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Having trouble understanding an article

A while back, I posted a comment here: Talk:Comparison_of_hex_editors and it never got answered. I'm having trouble understanding what the article's second data table means, and so it's becoming hard to improve or edit it. Can anyone take a look? Sketch-The-Fox 01:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Pining for attention again. Sketch-The-Fox 22:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Common Unix Printing System

Common Unix Printing System is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 14:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Emacs

Emacs is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 19:55, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 00:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for Work

Hello, I'm Dfrg.msc, and I want to make some constructive edits to Wikipedia. It's not that I am unable to, I would just like some guidance. So, if you have any specific tasks related to this topic, please inform me on my talk page, be specific and include links and I'll help out as soon as I can. Thanks, Dfrg.msc ^{1 . 2 . 3} 07:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Floppy disk

I have nominated Floppy disk for a featured article review because I am concerned it may not meet the requirements of a featured article. Detailed concerns can be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Gzkn 07:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Floppy disk is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 22:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Stablepedia

Beginning cross-post.

See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★TWO YEARS OF MESSEDROCKER★ 03:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

End cross-post. Please do not comment more in this section.

Cat:uncategorised computing stubs

I notice there's a lot of computer-related stub articles with no "permanent" categories at all; especially those tagged with {{compu-stub}} and {{software-stub}}. If there's anyone working on categorisation of computer articles (or wishing to) would it be useful to have these placed in a "maintenance" category? Alai 14:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Spyware

Spyware is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 21:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Central processing unit FAR

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Mozilla Firefox FAR

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Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

stemmer/stemming algorithm/stemming

I have improved these articles, which are now all a part of stemming, but they still appear on this project page as stuff to work on. I think you can remove them or not count them as stubs any longer. see stemming. sorry I did not know where else to state this information or how to. Josh Froelich 15:44, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article review/Microsoft

Microsoft has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--Konstable 01:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Markup language FAR

Markup language has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Refactoring binary numeral articles

A ridiculous number and variety of articles currently exist which cover various aspects of the topic of binary numerals, binary codes, binary arithmetic, and whatever else binary formats may be used for. Here's a probably-incomplete list of them:

• Computer numbering formats
  • Extremely long and mostly unwikified; originally copied from a public-domain source[1]. Too much information for a single article, in my opinion, since it covers not only the binary system, but octal, hex, signed integers and two's complement, fixed-point and floating-point, ASCII encoding, arithmetic, bitwise operations, and BCD. The information covered here may serve as a good basis for the sum total of binary-number-related information we want to cover, though; this article might be good as a sort of hierarchical parent to all the others, if most of its existing content is split off and/or merged with other articles.
• Integer (computer science)
  • Some have suggested merging this article with Computer numbering formats, though I would disagree; this article covers subjects such as bytes, pointers, and words, and seems more closely related to computer programming, and binary numerals as a datatype, than to binary representation in general.
• Binary numeral system
  • I'm one of the primary authors of this article, so I may be biased: I think this should be the main article for discussing the numeral system itself, and giving a good overview about what binary numerals are. Much of the information currently here should probably be split off. I would consider this article to be on the same hierarchical level as hexadecimal or octal
• Bitwise operation
  • As the name suggests, this article is about bitwise operations: OR, XOR, AND, NOT, shifting, etc. Again, being one of the primary contributors to it, I am biased, but I believe this article is fairly good as it stands, provided it does not overstep its bounds.
• Truncated binary encoding
  • I have a Computer Science degree and I have no clue what this article is about. It needs work.
• Binary encoding (currently redirects to Binary and text files)
  • "Binary encoding" is a somewhat vague term, but if there is enough to say about the subject (and I believe there is), then it should have its own article. It can cover any use of binary as a code, rather than binary as a numeral system, and may link to related articles such as Gray code and Binary-coded decimal, unless it would be better to merge those into a larger article on binary encoding.
• Binary arithmetic (currently redirects to Binary coding)
  • This article should be about doing arithmetic in binary; certainly there is more than enough information between Binary numeral system and Computer numbering formats to fill a lengthy article with nothing but explanation of how addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division are performed on integral, real, positive or negative binary numerals. Binary coding should redirect to Binary encoding.
• One's complement (currently redirects to Negative and non-negative numbers)
• Two's complement

Plus a variety of tangentially related articles:

• Bit
• Octal
• Hexadecimal
• Base 64
• Gray code
• Method of complements
• Fixed-point arithmetic
• Binary-coded decimal

Some of the redirected articles above may be unrelated to the topic at hand (namely, binary numbers), but due to the (I believe) poor choice of redirection, seem to be related because they are linked in a context that makes them seem related. For example, Truncated binary encoding links to Binary encoding in a way that would lead the reader to believe there is another article about binary encoding, when in fact the target of the redirect is about binary (as opposed to text) files---an almost completely unrelated subject. Similarly, Negative and non-negative numbers is hardly an article about One's complement, though it does mention the subject briefly.

Anyhow, the idea here is that many of these articles duplicate information, and many are organized in a way that could cause extreme confusion and difficulty for anyone coming here hoping to learn about binary numbers. I'm hoping we can come up with some clear boundaries on what needs to be included in a discussion on binary numbers, and how best to divide that subject into constituent articles. Duplicated information should be merged (especially the information in Binary numeral system and Computer numbering formats, and perhaps additionally Integer (computer science) and Negative and non-negative numbers.)

Previous discussion on this problem exists at Talk:Binary numeral system and most likely at the corresponding talk pages for the other articles listed above. -- Wapcaplet 17:09, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

True, we got to do something with binary-related articles. I think the overall confusion is due to the lack of single point of view. Binary is just a numeral system, strictly speaking nothing to do with the computers. Negative numbers can be represented just like as ordinary decimal numbers. But on the computer, the numbers are represented differently. Negative numbers are commonly represented using two's completement, thus, you need a slightly different arithmetic to calculate such. Confusing is that for example, if you use sign and magunitude method, you have negative and positive zeros. Not mention to comparison of sign and unsigned numbers.

So my suggestion is to have basically two parts: one dealting with the binary numeral system as a mathematical topic and have some binary representation and computation on the computers. Or is it alreadly the way articles are organized now? Honestly, I am not fully aware of articles above.

Anyway, let's take a look at each article:

• Computer numbering formats - I believe our agreement is get rid of this someday.
• Integer (computer science) - it has a good content but I am not sure what the article is about. If it is about a integer datatype then it's fine but mentions about mega or tera must be gone in that case.
• Bitwise operation - actually this is a duplicate article with logical operations. But it focuses on computer topic so I guess it has a reson de'tal (not sure how to spell).
  • raison d'etre perhaps? --MarSch 16:28, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Binary arithmetic - I would like to see this article is actually rewritten. It is an interesting topic.

Regarding complement articles, I propose to have an article named negative numbers on the computer or something. Discussion of negative numbers with the computer in negative and non-negative numbers can go to there.

Also, having some table, popular recently, is a nice way to avoid contributors create further duplication.

-- Taku 06:52, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

Hardware taxobox

Hi. I've created a prototype for a hardware taxobox (aimed at DEC stuff right now, but it could probably be expanded) at User:Lady Lysine Ikinsile/sandbox. I think something like this would be useful for an overview of the various hardware articles .. comments? — Lady Lysine Ikinsile 08:21, 2004 Jun 21 (UTC)

In my browser (Mozilla Firefox) at least, your taxobox's title is in black text on black background. Other than that, looks like a great idea! --FOo 16:09, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

How strange. I'm using Firefox 0.8 and it shows as white on black.

{| border=1 align=right
 |- style="background-color: black; color: white; text-align: center;" 
 ! colspan="2" | DEC VAX

Does the color: appear correctly in the HTML source? — Lady Lysine Ikinsile 16:25, 2004 Jun 21 (UTC)

Yes, it does. How weird. --FOo 16:48, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Merger?

I was wondering if we could merge a new Wikiproject I just created (not knowing you guys existed!). The project is Wikipedia:WikiProject computers and we have some structure already. Would anyone be opposed if we merged? - Ta bu shi da yu 14:10, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:WikiProject computers

OK, let's kick this off. I've realised that there are an absolute ton of articles on Computers and computing technology that we would do well to expand and cleanup. After all, one thing Wikipedia has a lot of is computer geeks :P We have programmers, sys admins, helpdesk operators, computer users, systems analysts, hardware junkies... you name it: we've got 'em. I figure that we should organise some of that enthusiasm by making a Wikiproject!

I fist came to realise just how many articles needed cleaning up and expanding upon when I edited Btrieve (which I use at work and know a little bit about). When I checked what links to it, I found Wikipedia:Free On-line Dictionary of Computing/symbols - B — an entire list of computer related terms that we still have to expand upon! And we can do it, too. We just need somewhere to coordinate things.

The initial thing I think we need to do is to work out what the various areas of computers we should be writing about. I think we can broadly categorise computing technology in these areas:

1. Software
   1. Programming
   2. Operating systems
   3. Applications
2. Networking
3. Security
4. Hardware

What do people think?

Ta bu shi da yu 08:00, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Can you clarify a bit what Programming would include? Where would articles such as Boyer-Moore string searching algorithm and Hash table fall in your proposed categorization? -- Antaeus Feldspar 17:30, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Under algorithms, under programming? my structure's not set in stone... I'd be happy to take on board suggestions. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:48, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How about format articles, such as ISO 9660? ... I'm wondering if part of the difficulty is that a lot of computer science is not tied to hardware or software or in fact to computers as we now know them, and so they don't sort neatly under the current structure as far as I can see. This is not to say that I necessarily have any better idea. =/ -- Antaeus Feldspar 18:54, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How-to?

I'm thinking of joining this project, but I don't like the "how-to" focus you seem to be headed toward. I'm much more interested in a historical focus. Is that part of what you have in mind, or would it just be pointless for me to join? -- Jmabel | Talk 22:10, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

Any howto's written on Wikipedia will likely be moved elsewhere (probably Wikibooks) as they're not encyclopedic. Dori | Talk 02:58, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

In that case, either the project page as it now stands doesn't reflect the proposed project, or the project isn't going to be in Wikipedia. Someone is presumably proposing this thing. Could he/she possibly get the project page to where it gives at least a moderately accurate indication of the intended scope? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:37, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

Actually, I grabbed that straight from the Wikiproject template. I thought it was odd also. Feel free to remove it. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:46, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Removed. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:49, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

But virtually all of the "goals" are still how-to articles... -- Jmabel | Talk 09:23, Dec 16, 2004 (UTC)

OK, I've restructured a bit, with some help from the bellman. What do you think? - Ta bu shi da yu 13:29, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Much improved. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:54, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

Comparison with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing?

Note: at the time this discussion section was started, the present talk page was at Wikipedia:WikiProject Computers. The move here was a result of this discussion.

It seems to me that Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing is virtually the same project as this one. How are the two different? [[User:Franl|— franl (talk)]] 14:01, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

Gah! That wasn't on the list of Wikiprojects. I think we have a bit more structure... I'll post a message on their page asking for a merger. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:07, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The project list is divided into "active projects" and "all projects". Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing hasn't been on the active list in a while. Perhaps that's why you didn't see it. Anyway, I think a merger is best (and will generate interest and participation). [[User:Franl|— franl (talk)]] 15:33, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)

To-Do

I'm putting items on this list because, well, they seem like they need to be done. If anyone disagrees whether they should be done, please say so... -- Antaeus Feldspar 04:29, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Fix the computer-related sections of Function, Procedure (programming), Function (programming), Procedure, Subprogram, and Subroutine so that they have clean, simple relationships to each other. Currently one can follow a link on Function titled "function procedure" which actually goes to Procedure (programming) which is a redirect to Procedure, which disambiguates a procedure in computer programming with a link to Subprogram which is a redirect to Subroutine. -- Antaeus Feldspar 08:33, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Okay, I've turned Procedure (programming) into a redirect straight to Subroutine. Some evidence indicates that Subroutine was originally Subprogram; does anyone else think that perhaps it should be moved back? My feeling on doing so is that all subroutines are subprograms but not all subprograms are subroutines, thus Subprogram is the more appropriate location. -- Antaeus Feldspar 18:25, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • I would prefer not to. "Subroutine" is very standard terminology in a number of languages (not to mention computer architectures, come to think of it, since many have built-in support for subroutines) for a named entity that is called (usually with arguments) and (optionally) returns a value. It's a very well understood, and, more importantly, well defined concept. To me, "subprogram" is a much less well-defined concept, and I therefore think it would be a bad idea to put the two on the same page. Keep "subroutine" for the well-defined programming language construct. Noel (talk) 20:04, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Reorganize the very broad [[Category:Computer terminology]] into more manageable subcategories. -- Antaeus Feldspar 04:29, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Help with moving huge piles of computer stubs {{compu-stub}} over to the sharper category of microcomputer stubs {{microcompu-stub}}. --Wernher 21:57, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Or to other appropriate specific categories, which are listed at Category:Computer stubs. -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:50, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Okay, on this subject -- is Category:Programming language stubs appropriate for stubs about things that can be implemented in programming languages, or only stubs about programming languages themselves? -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:25, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Looking at the existing stubs, it might be good to separate "software" (i.e., that which is not hardware) from "applications" (i.e., a finished program that a user interacts with. -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:33, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Qualculus

We are having a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics#Qualculus on what to do with the article Qualculus, which seems to be used as a methodology for designing databases. Basically, we are trying to establish whether such a thing really exists. I was hoping that some of you could give us some input on this matter. -- Jitse Niesen 16:39, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'd suggest listing this on VfD. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:11, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Concurrency, parallelism and distribution

The wikipedia pages dealing with these concepts came to my attention through items on the PlanetLISP news feed, and I'm unhappy with what I've so far seen. I've put together a first attempt at a definition on my weblog [2]; I'm interested in putting together a more useful and consistent terminology for Wikipedia that is closer to what researchers use. I haven't got a great deal of time before the semester here ends (in three weeks) to comment on & edit the particular pages, but I thought I'd try to get feedback on:

• What definitions should we be using? Are there any serious problems with the definitions I proposed in my weblog entry?
• Where should the definitions go? (I suggest we create a Parallelism and concurrency page);
• Can we assemble a collection of definitions from authoratative sources? ---- Charles Stewart 13:29, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I ran into problems finding good, precise definitions of these concepts while trying to tune up the Cilk article. To clarify -- how would you classify SIMD (I believe that's the term): Single Instruction, Multiple Data?

I think "distributed" is a little easier to separate out from the others. -- Antaeus Feldspar 21:01, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Early computer bibliography

For those of you interested in early computers, I am assembling a large annotated bibliography on the subject at Wikipedia:WikiProject Early computers/Books, as part of the Early computers WikiProject. I'm also starting to collect a directory of web links to sites with particular broad and authoritative collections of online stuff, although that's not as far along yet. Noel (talk) 17:21, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Navigational template

I'm writing a navigational template for GNU/Linux - various distros and the like will be linked. See Template:Linux if you would like to help. Alphax ^τεχ 02:39, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Anyone? I'm stumped. Alphax ^τεχ 03:18, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've added a few. Here is the template

v • d • e The Linux operating system General Adoption · Comparison of Windows and Linux · Criticism · GNU Project · History · Linux Foundation · Kernel (portability) · Linus's Law · GNU/Linux naming controversy · Tux Linux Portal Distribution Distribution (comparison) · Live CD (comparison) · Live USB · Mini Linux · Package formats Applications ALSA · Desktop · Devices · Embedded · Gaming · LAMP · Thin client People Jono Bacon · Benjamin Mako Hill · Pamela Jones · Ari Lemmke · Andrew Morton · Ian Murdock · Hans Reiser · Scott James Remnant · Daniel Robbins · Mark Shuttleworth · Richard Stallman · Linus Torvalds · Patrick Volkerding · Warren Woodford · Matt Zimmerman Media Enterprise open source journal · Free Software Magazine · Linux.com · Linux Format · Linux Gazette · Linux Journal · Linux-Magazin · Linux Magazine · Linux Medical News · LWN.net · O3 Magazine · Phoronix Lists Devices · Distributions · LiveDistros Mobile Access Linux Platform · Android · LiMo Platform · Mobilinux · Moblin project · Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded Edition · Linux Phone Standards Forum Other topics Linux malware · Linux Users' Group (LUG) · Linux Standard Base · Revolution OS · SCO and Linux · Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate

there seems to be something wrong with tr:Template:Linux... --MarSch 16:21, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Orphan

Could someone take a look at Binkered and merge it, categorise it etc where appropriate. Thanks --nixie 01:44, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/JFFS2

The article JFFS2, about a journaling file system for flash memory devices, has been listed for deletion. Votes welcome. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:52, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

featured article selection implied POV?

Purusing WP:FA, I notice there are three featured articles on Winows and let's say one (Common Unix Printing System) on any oher OS. I understand the vagaries of interest, expertise, and machinations of WP:FAC all come into play, but does anyone else think that we should make a concerted effort to get some non-Windows OS articles to featured status to avoid the appearance of a pro-Microsoft POV? Linux has been nominated twice. It doesn't look like Mac OS or Unix have ever been nominated. I'm curious what others think about this. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:13, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

ZEBRA (computer)

I know this has very little priority in the matter of 'what must be done first'. However when browsing around Wikipedia I ran across the article on ZEBRA (computer). However, despite its great depth of detail. That detail seems to drag along a LARGE amount of highly technical terms that the average computer user wouldn't understand. I'd be happy if someone could convert all of the terms in the article to simpler terminology.

Nateland 00:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Competitors

Sections== I have seem a couple of software articles in which a section called competitors existed. I removed these as they don't seem notable to the product itself and seem arbitrary. Many products link to a list of xxx or have a category which fulfil the desire to find similar products. I appreciate any other views on 'Competitors' sections? GameKeeper 12:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Quantum computer FAR

Quantum computer has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Not notable

Stumbled upon this: Acer Aspire 3680 That article is probably not notable and should probably be deleted. If not, it needs very significant improvent. Cheers, Shinobu 13:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Assessment?

Although there are some GAs and FAs, there are also a bunch of B-class articles out there that fall under this project and the subprojects. I propose that this project have an assessment subpage tied with WP:1.0, so that we know how many articles fall under this project and the subprojects' scopes. It also gives us an idea of how this project is doing with Wikipedia quality standards. Comments? V60 ^{干什么？ · VDemolitions · ER 3} 18:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject_Computing and A-Plot

I saw that Talk:A-Plot received an "Wikiproject Computing template from a bot. I don't understand why. It doesn't seem an article in the Wikiproject scope. Is it an error on the MessedRobot Cate | _Talk 14:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

importance assesment?

Where is the assesment scale for importance? The link goes to Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing, but that page contains nothing about the criteria for determining the importance of an article. -- Mikeblas 13:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

A proposed importance criteria has been posted on WP:COMP/A. V60 ^{干什么？ · VDemolitions} 21:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

MessedRobot and the "WikiProject Computing" template

Hi everyone. I noticed that the MessedRobot started adding the "WikiProject Computing" template to the talkpages of cryptography articles. I would prefer you would not do that. We already have a {{CryptographyProject}} template that is more appropriate.

If all "parent" WikiProjects to crypto would add their templates then we would get 5-10 different templates on top of each crypto talkpage. That will be very confusing for editors. It is also confusing as it is now that some articles now only have the "WikiProject Computing" template and not the "CryptographyProject" template.

Before you start masstaging crypto articles I suggest you first take it up for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cryptography.

--David Göthberg 06:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

The same thing happened with articles marked as being part of the Microsoft Windows WikiProject. -/- Warren 05:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Can I be allowed to tag these categories please

I will skip all talk pages that contain: {{, which means it already has a template, so if our descendant wikiproject has already tagged it, I won't tag it.

To see the categories I am talking about visit here: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/KhunterBot, and post your comments there. Thnx. --Khunter 14:52, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Replied. V60 ^{干什么？ · VDemolitions} 15:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. --Khunter 15:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Babylon Translator

Can someone please take a look at Babylon (program). There is some debate on how (or if) user forums can be cited to monitor software issues talk:babylon (program). 81.37.66.244 15:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

A forum is not a reliable source for anything, especially criticism of a subject. — CharlotteWebb 20:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Itanium FA

Dear colleques:

I self-nominated the Itanium article for Featured Article status. So far only one editor has reviewed the article, and that editor is not a computer person. I would deeply appreciate if you would review the article and add comments to the FAC.Please review WP:FAC before commenting. Thanks. -Arch dude 01:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Xputer

The article Xputer and associated articles Auto-sequencing memory and Generic Address Generator have been nominated for deletion. There seem to be references, but all from a single group. I can't judge importance of this, so could an expert have a look and either remove the tags altogether or send to AfD or whatever seems suitable.DGG 21:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Windows VISTA

Compare windows vista and XP...

--Wikiprabhu 18:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Mechagodzilla - does it really fall under the scope of Computing?

On the Talk page for Mechagodzilla is states that "This article is within the scope of Computing WikiProject". Is that an error? I was going to add something to the Talk page about the article needing serious attention (5 spelling errors in one section, which I corrected, grammar which I didn't, other standards) but I see no way to edit the talk page. Are there no individual Talk pages now for articles added to a project? Thank you. Mvandemar 02:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's an error... someone rather dumbly programmed a bot to tag far too many articles as being part of this WikiProject, and is apparently unwilling to discuss or revert their changes. -/- Warren 15:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Computation

I have nominated Category:Computation for deletion here. I know that sounds odd but look at the category and you will see what I mean. CMummert · talk 18:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

CPU cache FAR

CPU cache has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Request from a visitor to my page

Protocol support

The table for protocol support is needed in two pages:

• Comparison of instant messaging clients
• Multiprotocol instant messaging application

Can you make a template of it and change both pages accordingly? Thank you 91.35.185.115 15:38, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I will do my very best to get an expert coder on that project! Cheers! ^Ariel♥Gold 16:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

As I am not the correct person to complete this (I currently do not have a sufficient knowledge of tables here on Wikipedia) I am hoping someone here may be able to honor the request by the poster to my page. (I have also posted this on the talk page of the two articles above, as advised by the Admin that I went to for advice.) Thank you! ^Ariel♥Gold 11:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

opinions sought for small company

There is a very slow edit war going on at Segger Microcontroller Systems. The article was deleted once, but reappeared within a month. An anonymous editor removed the {{COI}} and {{Notability}} tags. Discussion has been very slow, so additional opinions about the notability of this article would be welcome. —EncMstr 19:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Instant Messaging Task Force

I would be interested in setting up an Instant Messaging task force within your Wikiproject. I thought I would seek consensus before doing so, as the topic isn't quite big enough for a full-blown Wikiproject, I think. I can work out a banner, (unless you'd like to use a parameter of your existing banner), and I could set up pages and all that. Reply here if you think it's a good idea. GrooveDog (talk) (Review) 03:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

VBA article needs a lot of work - it's wrong in large parts.

Since some one obviously thinks it's right, perhaps a couple of independent reviews would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.166.15 (talk) 07:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

January 0 AfD

Your participation at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/January 0 would be most welcome. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 17:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: TriangleOS

TriangleOS (via WP:PROD on 2007-10-03) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:56, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: IBM Project Zero

IBM Project Zero (via WP:PROD on 2007-09-28) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Compaq Presario SR1234NX

Compaq Presario SR1234NX (via WP:PROD)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Mega Drive Technical Specifications

I've been working on the Sega Mega Drive article and eventually, I would like to push it up to FA standard but I'm lacking and particular background technical knowledge so it's very hard for me to complete the technical specifications section. I am making a request to anyone who has the knowledge or ability to complete or make any addition to the "Technical Specifications" section of the Mega Drive article to please do so.

Notes about the "Technical Specifications" section:

• The boxes on the left eventually need to go and be replaced with full written sections. Similar to the SNES article.
• The infoboxes on the right need to be filled in fully

Any help at all would be appreciated, thanks. Crimsonfox 12:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Quick update on this. I've written up most of the sections now but again, I can't check over it to make sure it makes sense. Rather than having to write the sections, ANY input would nice to see if I'm writing up technical specifications properly. Thanks. Crimsonfox 10:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: PeSAN

PeSAN (via WP:PROD)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Minesweeper

Can someone please take a look at Minesweeper (computer game), and add a comment under the talk page. I have done some cleanup, but I need some advice/tips on how to make it better. Paxinum 18:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I took a quick look and noticed a couple of problems.

• There's a lack of sources.
• The "Shared Mine Analysis" section uses "you", change that.

If you want an in depth review, I suggest requesting over at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Peer_review Crimsonfox 19:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

New Infobox

(note: updated by Chris Cunningham 12:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC))

I didn't know where on the project page to place this, so I though I would mention it here. I have created a new infobox at {{Infobox Computer}}. It doesn't have very many fields, because I am not sure what people would want, but I look forward to seeing it developed. Also, it is currently only implemented at iMac, so it needs editors to add it to the pages of their favorite computer.

Example
Example of Example
Type	Desktop
Developer	Exampleware
Released	January 16, 2006
Processor	π GHz G6 -200 KHz G9
Website	Example.com

{{ infobox computer
| Name      = Example
| Developer = Exampleware
| Type      = Desktop
| Photo     = [[Image:IMac.jpg|220px]]
| Caption   = [[Example of Example]]
| Released  = [[January 16]], [[2006]]
| Processor = π [[GHz]] G6<br> -200 KHz G9
| Website   = [http://example.com Example.com]
}}

Infobox work

There are actually two infoboxen for this project: template:infobox Computer (which is used by Mac articles) and template:infobox computer (used by everything else). I've merged the two using the best bits of both at template:infobox computer, and I'm going to start shuffling everything over there. (I've also corrected the example above to prevent it from breaking once the merge is done.) Chris Cunningham 12:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Notice of List articles

Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).

• List of basic computer science topics
• List of basic information technology topics
• List of basic computer programming topics

This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 20:18, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

9/9/99

I was working in an Investment Bank and we had a load of problems on 9th Sept 1999. These seem to have originated from old systems using sequential files with end of file maked by a 9/9/99 in a date field in the final record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.221.133.226 (talk) 14:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Windows XP FAR

Windows XP has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Restructure project page

After years of updates, I would suggest to restructure this project page.

First of all, keep this project page as an index to articles only. This mean paragraph on things such as pseudocode should be moved into separate page.

Secondly, reorganize links to articles. For example:

1. History of computing
2. Computer hardware
   1. History of computer hardware
   2. Hardware components
      1. Central processing unit (CPU)
      2. Primary storages
      3. Secondary storages
      4. Input
      5. Output
      6. Network devices
   3. Related topics
3. Computer software
   1. History of computer software
   2. Types of software
      1. Applications
      2. Operating systems
      3. Databases
      4. Midwares
   3. Developing software
      1. Software development life cycle (SDLC)
      2. Development methodologies
   4. Computer Programming
      1. Programming languages
      2. Algorithms
   5. Related topics
      1. Software quality
4. Computer Firmware
   1. History of computer firmware
   2. Types of firmware
   3. Related topics
5. Computer network
   1. History of computer network
   2. Network topologies
   3. Network models
      1. OSI Model
   4. Related topics
      1. Network security
6. Computer documentation
   1. History of computer documentation
   2. Types of documentation
   3. Related topics
      1. Technical writing
7. Related topics
   1. Computer security

Francis Law (talk) 07:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Single-page application

Single-page application (via WP:PROD on 2008-01-04)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Growler Guncam

I noticed that someone had put a redirect from the term "desktop capture" to this article about a commercial software. It seems to be an advertisement. The phrase has about 28000 hits. Is this notable? Shawnc (talk) 00:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Blogging Project

The Blogging Project has been tagged as inactive since September 2007. It was listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Inactive_projects#Wikipedia with a suggested merge into the Websites project. Unfortunately, the Website project also appears to be inactive. The Blogging project has now been MfDed for demotion to a task force under Websites, but with Websites inactive, would the computing project is willing to step in and absorb them both as a single task force? Collectonian (talk) 01:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Somewhat related, the Web Animation project has been tagged as being inactive since March. Would Computing want to pick it up as a task force? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collectonian (talk • contribs) 01:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles ideas

The personal computer article is overburdened with too much ancient history of older personal computers and needs to be kept modern. That is why I put the landmark machines into the History of computing hardware (1960s–present) via this diff. I would propose an History of personal computers article if the History of computing hardware (1960s–present) is inviable but at least the History of computing hardware (1960s–present) should be greatly expanded to detail all the most important hardware coming out in this time period. As of right now it doesn't even mention CD-ROM, Key Drives, SD Cards, 802.11b and coffee shop hubs, etc. All major changes in computer hardware and usages. If the number of landmark items get overwhelming then I propose we break the history articles down by decades. The newest article being History of computing hardware (2000's-present) Alatari (talk) 13:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Someone pointed out an existing (albeit esoteric) article to me just now. Would anyone mind peeking at Koorde and telling me if it can be rendered intelligible to the average human being? ~Kylu (u|t) 00:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Livescribe needs cleanup

Livescribe‎ reads like a press release / ad. Anybody interested in improving this? -- Writtenonsand (talk) 16:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Drupal interview

Dear all,

I'm preparing a Wikinews interview with Dries Buytaert, the head of Drupal. It would be very helpful if you could suggest questions on the interview preparation page.

cheers, --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Electronic portfolio

The trail of a spamvertiser led me to Electronic portfolio. I deleted the latest, uh, contribution to this, but as for the remainder I hardly know where to start. "Electronic portfolio" is described so vaguely that it might cover just about anything, and followed by a great list of links to services. I clicked on one at random -- no, that's not true, not at random, as it's called "chalk and wire", an agreeably unpretentious name. I thereupon landed at a site that features praise that reads The Chalk and Wire ePortfolio product is the best we have seen in terms of being able to actually perform the claims of the company...Chalk and Wire understands assessment, so they ask the right questions in order to ascertain the heart of what we desire in terms of our research design…We were able to take the Chalk and Wire infrastructure and existing architecture and implement a university-wide ePortfolio system that provides timely feedback to students, and that will aggregate and disaggregate great amounts of assessment data in meaningful ways… To which my response is "WTF is that supposed to mean?" Maybe corporatese has a particularly strong soporific effect on me; could somebody who doesn't fall asleep as quickly as I do take a look at this article? I suspect that a lot of the links are merely to unremarkable commercial sites (however misty and grand their rhetoric), and should be cut pronto. -- Hoary (talk) 11:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Software distribution (*ware) articles

I suspect a lot of these articles could be reorganized, including merges and renames. It's really messy. There's currently some (fragmented) discussions on some of the pages about merging one or the other or cross-copying and what not. I think they could really use the guidance of an experienced editor. I myself am not sure what to do as there is just too much sprawl and I don't want to be accused of unilateral editing. Ham Pastrami (talk) 20:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

v • d • e Forms of software distribution Adware · Beerware · Careware · Commercial software · Crippleware · Demoware · Donationware · Foistware · Freely redistributable software · Free software · Freeware · Nagware · Open source · Otherware · Postcardware · Propagandaware · Registerware · Retail software · Shareware

input and outs of the computer

could anyone put some list down on inputs and outputs of the computer as there is not much on the web pages i looked at as i am new to this sort of thing i was hoping to get a little help thanks —Preceding comment added by Lindsay40 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 11 February 2008--Lindsay40 (talk) 20:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The MSDN topic in Wiki is innacurate.

The MSDN topic in Wiki is innacurate. It leaves out versions and contains mistakes regarding which versions of it integrate with which products. One citation it contains is a link to a post on a discussion board. 172.165.31.210 (talk) 13:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

New task force per MfD decision

Per this MfD the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Early_computers has been merged into a task force here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computing/Early_computers_task_force together with its subpages. It was the view of the MfD that there were resources worth preserving. Thanks.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 21:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Sort participants list??

Does anyone mind if I alphabetically sort the list of participants?? Phillip (talk) 19:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

History of Computing

I am new to this project and i would love to help with anything. I have noticed that the history of computing section of the Goals had no links or anthing for it. So i have just finished creating a page which lists all of the pages which come under that category. Hope its use full! Thanks rockyourworld (talk) 19:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

ASCII FAR

ASCII has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Computing: Articles of unclear notability

Hello,

there are currently 12 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. I have listed them here. (Note: this listing is based on a database snapshot of 12 March 2008 and may be slightly outdated.)

I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability.

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for advice: History of IBM mainframe operating systems

Kubanczyk and I both thought the collection of articles about IBM mainframe operating systems was poorly structured, contained a lot of duplication, etc., so we set out to rationalise them. The root article is History of IBM mainframe operating systems. The discussions are mainly at Talk:History of IBM mainframe operating systems and User talk:Kubanczyk.

We've been stalled for a while because User talk:Kubanczyk and I disagree over whether to merge into OS/360 and successors all the content on MVS and its descendants, execpt to z/OS, the current member of that lineage. There is discussion of the issue at Talk:OS/360 and successors as well as at the Talk pages I already mentioned.

It would be helpful if someone could check out the articles and offer some suggestions on this issue. Philcha (talk) 09:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of CASTLE fight

An article that you may be interested in, CASTLE fight, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CASTLE fight. Thank you. Paulbrock (talk) 13:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)