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Archive Notes: "Alpha" is the archive talk of the prior notability essay that has just been replaced. "Beta" is the archive talk page of the current page while it was under development. Alpha closed out 12:28, August 8, 2007 Beta launched major re-write

Major Re-Write Launched: As JKBrooks85 has suggested, I have decided to be WP:BOLD and launch the new WikiProject College footbal/Notability essay. We have been workinging on this essay for quite some time now and believe it is ready for the world of Wikipedia to benefit from the effort.

Thanks to all those who contributed to this re-write, in both comment and content. Now, let's all join in to take this project further!

For your reference, the beta development page is here. It will be marked as depreciated but not removed, as there are pages that link to it for AFD discussions.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I really like the work you've done here. I never would have thought it possible to concisely state notability in such a form. I would only like to add that part of the justification for season pages, even for "non-top 25" teams is to encourage writers/editors to join and create about a topic they know, and in the end they may be more noteworthy and we would be better off. Sure, we may end up with lots of unfinished and/or "lesser-notable" seasons, but we're better off in the long run. For example, someone starting a 2007 Hawaii page at the start of the season (where most of of would perhaps laugh at the thought), we would end up with a better 2007 Hawaii page than if we started at the end and tried to incorporate the same things. I'm sure there are things that I slightly disagree with (NAIA) but the same could be said for others and things I would strongly disagree with. Nevertheless, I find this to be a very good summary of what college football is about and what should be on Wikipedia. MECU≈talk 02:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, MECU! And I believe you are right about the importance of starting season articles. I don't know of any season articles for NAIA programs (or NCAA DivIII for that matter), but if someone were to get enthusiastic about that, it could lead to a robust article indeed. Consider also the fuss from the Talk:Tim Tebow article from several years ago--twice nominated for deletion.

I think we have a ways to go to clarify notability on players and seasons, but it's a big start. Any comments you (or anyone else) have are welcomed and encouraged.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)