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[edit] Baptists

Description
There seem to be quite a few Baptist editors in Wikipedia, but no real central organized group to deal with such articles. If it should take off, this would be such a group. The group would also deal with articles of related Anabaptist groups.
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Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Magnus animum
  2. SonPraises 20:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
  3. Delfeye
  4. futurebird 04:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
  5. Working for Him
  6. John Carter 19:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  7. kgyt 22:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  8. SU Linguist 01:00, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
  9. NDCompuGeek 18:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
  10. Geomapboy2 22:35, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Comments

Given the number of existing parties, it seems to me that there is enough interest to try to set this up as a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity. I am thus contacting the members of that group to see if they would be willing to take it on as a work group. John Carter 19:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The project page is now active. John Carter 21:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overhaul

I polished up the page and created a new user box. Cheers. -- SECisek 22:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spiritual Baptist

This group seems to be a syncretion of the Baptist faith and ancient African religions. To the rest of you think that it should fall within the purview of this group or not? There is currently some question because it is included in the List of Baptist sub-denominations as well. Thank you for any and all responses. John Carter 22:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the threshold should be if this group considers itself to be Baptist plus if they do believer's baptism, and "believe in Christ" (under one of many of the myriad of interpretations of that)These are core baptist ideas. If they don't do these things, but still think they are "Baptist" we need to explain why. So, even for that maybe the working group should take it up.
Since they seem to self-identify by the name "Spiritual Baptist" I'd say yes it should go in, although it'd be nice if the article explained which elements of the religion are specifically Baptist as opposed to just generally Christian. [1] Looks like a good resource.
I know from experience that some Baptists (specifically some members of of the church I grew up in) would reject the idea that this is a Christian religion, let alone a Baptist one, since they have this abhorrence of "Paganism" (--but then the people in my childhood church don't have Christmas trees, because that's "Pagan" too) How wide of a net do we cast? I don't know. I think it's OK to include them if only to show the wide reach and impact of Baptist ideas. futurebird 22:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I tend to think you should include them. Good to see activity here. -- SECisek 22:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

The Spiritual Baptists believe that their religion comes from John the Baptist and their name from the practice of immersing their practitioners in water as a means of baptizing them into the faith (Henry 36-39). Rituals are characterized by bell ringing, mourning, shouting and visits from the Holy Spirit ... Easter – This celebrates Christ’s victory over death and is a joyous occasion.[2]

They sound like Baptists to me. futurebird 22:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

It makes no difference. A Baptist is a Baptist! Brandon (talk) 06:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for refs: Ichthus Christian Fellowship

Hi, I hope this is an appropriate page on which to request references for the English church/denomination Ichthus Christian Fellowship. - Fayenatic (talk) 22:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anabaptist vs. Baptist

I'm a bit concerned whether the Anabaptist faith tradition fits within the scope of a Baptist work group. Certainly there are similarities, but the Baptists and Anabaptists are distinct enough "streams" that I'm not sure they should be grouped together. Furthermore, it appears to me from the category list that more is being done with Baptist topics than Anabaptist. I don't mean to step onto anyone's toes, but should Anabaptist be spun off into its own group? (Szdfan (talk) 15:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC))

The reason for the existing name was that Category:Anabaptism includes Category:Baptist and is one of the main subcategories of Category:Christian denominations, and it was an attempt to ensure that most of these churches receive some more specific coverage than just that which can be provided by the main Christianity project. Having said that, there wouldn't necessarily be any objections from me for the creation of a separate Baptist group, or, for that matter of a separate Methodist group, Nestorian group, Restorationist group. or potentially any number of others, if there were sufficient interest in such a group to justify the changes to the templates, creating the additional pages, etc. Any other responses out there? The major denominations which to my eyes still don't have groups are, by categorization, as follows:


If there is sufficient interest in any of the above topics for the creation of a separate subproject, the idea would certainly be considered. John Carter (talk) 16:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinator?

It has probably been noticed by most of the editors who frequent this page that there is often a pronounced degree of overlap between the various projects relating to Christianity. Given that overlap, and the rather large amount of content we have related to the subject of Christianity, it has been proposed that the various Christianity projects select a group of coordinators who would help ensure the cooperation of the various projects as well as help manage some project related activities, such as review, assessment, portal management, and the like. Preferably, we would like to consider the possibility of having one party from each of the major Christianity projects included, given the degree of specialization which some of the articles contain. We now are accepting nominations for the coordinators positions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 1. Any parties interested in helping performing some of the management duties of the various Christianity projects is encouraged to nominate themselves there. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Much to my surprise, the period for the factual elections of the new coordinators has started a bit earlier than I expected. For what it's worth, as the "instigator" of the proposed coordinators, the purpose of having them is not to try to impose any sort of "discipline" on the various projects relating to Christianity, but just to ensure that things like assessment, peer review, portal maintainance, and other similar directly project-related functions get peformed for all the various projects relating to Christianity. If there are any individuals with this project who are already doing such activities for the project, and who want to take on the role more formally, I think nominations are being held open until the end of the elections themselves. And, for the purposes of this election, any member in good standing of any of the Christianity projects can either be nominated or express their votes at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 1. Thank you for your attention. John Carter (talk) 00:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Baptism in the Baptist churches

There has been some recent discussion at the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum page about what to do with all the articles relating to baptism in the various Christian churches. A list of the articles invovled can be found at User:Pastordavid/workpage. Some of these articles relate specifically to baptism and the baptist/anabaptist traditions. I think we would all welcome any input from members of this project regarding what if anything to do with the articles, which might include keeping them separate, merging them, or otherwise dealing with them. Thank you for your attention. John Carter (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)