Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cape Verde/FritzpollBot

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1. Should we have separate articles on islands and municipalities, in the cases where only one municipality covers the entire island?

  • If so, how to name them, for consistency?
  • If not, how to manage this with the articles for separate municipalities, i islands that have more than one?

2. For standardization purposes, a common layout for the titles should be used. Examples:

  • Island (Cape Verde)
  • Municipality (Island)
  • Parish (Municipality)
  • City/Village/Town (Island)

This is only an example; it most likely won't be usable if analyzed in depth. More suggestions are welcome.

(Note: Portuguese speakers, please read the discussion at pt:Wikipedia Discussão:Projectos/Países/Cabo Verde/Geografia)

3. Should we have articles on the parishes at all? What unique info would they have, besides statistical data and perhaps a description of the festivities of the patron saint's day? --Waldir talk 03:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal

After some thought, I'd propose the following schema:
  • Always separate the articles on the islands (covering geographical data) and the municipalities (covering political data), even if they overlap in area. This provides for consistency of the model and makes it scalable for the future in case the islands gain more divisions (as happened with São Nicolau in 2005). For reference, only five such cases remain (São Vicente, Sal, Boa Vista, Maio and Brava), in a set of 22 municipalities.
  • Ignore the articles on the parishes. There's not enough data available (unless we can ask someone related to religion for data -- I'll see what I can do about this). Note, though, that some of the articles already exist.
  • The layout for the titles would be something in the lines of:
  • <island> island (e.g. Santiago island / São Vicente island) - prevents overlapping with other entities with the same name, be them municipalities of Cape Verde, place names elsewhere, or even the saints themselves
  • <municipality>, Cape Verde (e.g. Praia, Cape Verde / São Vicente, Cape Verde) - prevents overlapping with other homonym entities (including islands of Cape Verde!); also, there are no overlapping municipality names within Cape Verde
  • <city>, <island> (e.g. Praia, Santiago / Mindelo, São Vicente) - prevents overlapping with the municipalities when they have the same name (as actually happens with many - perhaps most - of the villages), and with other villages with the same name
Notes:
  • Perhaps the suffixes could be dropped in cases of non-ambiguity, such as the "Ribeira Grande de Santiago" municipality (but having redirects from the suffixed title). That would break the common model, in the sake of simplicity.
  • The city model not always will work. Sometimes there are places with the same name not only in the same island (e.g. Cancelo, Santa Cruz municipality, Santiago / Cancelo, São Domingos municipality, Santiago), but also in the same municipality (Cachaço, Brava municipality, Brava island / Cachaço, Brava municipality, Brava island) and occasionally even in the same parish (Lagoa, São João Baptista parish, Porto Novo municipality, Santo Antão island / Lagoa III, São João Baptista parish, Porto Novo municipality, Santo Antão island). These cases should be dealt with, either individually as exceptions, or by changing the model for sub-municipal entities. This page might come in handy. Also take a look at {{geodis}} and the pages it's transcluded to.
  • In general, on the island and municipality level, the system is fail-prof - the only exception I know of being São Vicente island (there's an island with the same name in Brazil). If no more cases like this are found, we can keep this case as an exception; otherwise, we can extend the disambiguation to all other islands (it would become "<island> island, Cape Verde")
Please share your thoughts below. --Waldir talk 10:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)