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[edit] Ernest Emerson FAR

Ernest Emerson has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting comments on category deletion review

I've just asked for a review on the recent decision to delete Category:American entrepreneurs and possibly Category:entrepreneurs. If interested in the matter the discussion is at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 October 20#Category:American entrepreneurs. - Wikidemo 17:27, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unit price

Can someone remove the speedy deletion tag on Unit price? Some cowboy put a speedy deletion tag on the article immediately after I started the page. It took me a few more minutes more than that to get content into the article. Now the article is a stub with a decent amount of content in it, and so a removal of the speedy deletion tag is appropriate. I would do so myself, however, the tag says that the person who started the page ought not to remove the tag.EECavazos 07:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Artices drafted from list of missing articles

In the last few days I started some articles listed as missing and needed. These articles give just the basic information and could use more content. They are as follows:

Stay well. EECavazos 22:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

You might want to consider using a redirect for some of the topics on Skysmith's list rather than creating new articles. For instance, dividend is mainly about common stock dividends, and Bills payable and Bills receivable are, I think, older terminology for accounts payable and accounts receivable. Some terms might belong in Wiktionary -- such as Unit price -- unless you think there's enough material for an encyclopedia article. Just some ideas to think about :-) You've made a nice start on those articles! --Busy Stubber 19:31, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I noticed they had a lot of terms in the list that have articles already created, but under a different name such as Ask price or Arms-Length Bargaining and so I created redirects for those. If someone has time, could they merge Common stock dividend to Dividend? The Dividend article makes few to no distinctions between common stock and the several types of preferred stock.EECavazos 19:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re-assessments?

How do we request pages be re-assessed? I'm thinking specifically of the Liquidation page which, to me, looks like it deserves more than a Start-class rating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnthonyUK (talk • contribs) 14:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I changed the rating to B. If you see other ratings that look wrong, you can change them. Ratings don't always keep up with changes in the articles. Projects use the same rating system. Thanks for your help! --Busy Stubber 18:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I took the liberty of merging Diversification (finance) and Financial diversification. I think the resulting article should be moved from Start-class to B-class, but I'm not associated with this WikiProject, so I'd like someone else to look at it. 218.225.111.205 (talk) 01:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notice of List articles

Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).

This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 19:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

These lists give the word "basic" a whole new meaning! There's also list of economics topics floating around. Could we somehow make use of categories rather than trying to keep categories AND lists reasonably clean? Does anyone have any idea what the criteria are for including topics in these lists? --Busy Stubber 23:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
The Transhumanist explained his method of creation in point 3 at User talk:Nexus Seven/Archive#can I help. I've started a thread detailing a few concerns at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists of basic topics#Overlap with portals and other concerns, please discuss there. Thanks. --Quiddity 01:44, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strategy dynamics

Being new to this, apologies if I get the etiquette wrong here. I have just looked at the 'strategy dynamics' page, and feel it needs developing. I have explained the issue on the topic's discussion page, and have some substantial content to propose.

Kim warren (talk) 11:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Articles with their notability questioned

Hello,

I am posting here a list of articles with notability questions that are assigned to the Business & Economics project, per request by User:Gavin.collins. You might want to have a look at these articles and check whether they meet the notability criteria.

Articles appear in the list below because they have been tagged with ({{notability}} or {{importance}}, and hence are listed in Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability and its subcategories. The data is based on a snapshot from Oct 18, and may partially be outdated. I have included the months February 2007 - September 2007 only (all January articles have been sorted in the meantime, and the October data is incomplete).

If you have questions regarding the list, feel free to post a message on the talk page of the Notability wikiproject or on my personal talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] February 2007

Updated --Gavin Collins (talk) 09:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2007

Updated --Gavin Collins (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] April 2007

Updated --Gavin Collins (talk) 12:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May 2007

Updated --Gavin Collins (talk) 12:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] June 2007

[edit] July 2007

[edit] August 2007

[edit] September 2007

[edit] Comments re Articles with their notability questioned

How do we tackle this? Clearly, some articles have been corrected, either by deletion or redirecting to other articles. We could work on this here, a user sub-page, or a sub-page of this project. - Mtmelendez (Talk) 18:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The list is a month old -- not sure why it's being posted here now. Can we get a current list? --Busy Stubber (talk) 04:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I have removed those articles which have already been deleted, so we don't need to wait for an update. There are not that many, so we may be able to deal with them quickly. If we have a look at each one, and do the following:
  • Delete any articles that are obviously spam using speedy deletion;
  • Put a note after each article as to which project it falls under, e.g. Economics, Finance, Companies and of course ourselves). Some of the foreign companies will probably need to be reassigned to a Wikiproject relating to their country, e.g. WP:FINLAND;
  • Attach the correct template relating to the relevant project, e.g. Template:WikiProject Companies, and remove Template:Business;
  • Lastly, we will then move responsibility to the respective project by leaving a message on their talk pages explaining how WikiProject Notability would like us to deal with these articles.
I think this will enable use to deal with these articles very quickly. If anyone knows how to format these lists into tables, that would be useful bit of editing as well. --Gavin Collins (talk) 11:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick heads-up: An updated version of the listing is available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability/Listing by project/Page 2#WikiProject Business & Economics. If you want to modify it, please copy it here first. --B. Wolterding (talk) 19:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Core topics collaboration

Hi, I wanted to mentioned that the current Core Topics collaboration is an article tracked by this project, personal finance. The collaboration has not been too active lately, but the goal is worthy - to improve some of our weaker articles on our most important topics. Any help you can give would be much appreciated. Thanks! Walkerma (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carl G. Fisher FAR

Carl G. Fisher has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Epbr123 (talk) 14:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dutch Masters (cigar)

A tag has been placed on Dutch Masters (cigar), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing no content to the reader. Please note that external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article don't count as content. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Dutch Masters (cigar)

A tag has been placed on Dutch Masters (cigar) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Backlog at WP:AR1

Hello WP:Business. If you like to create articles, might I suggest a trip over to our list of business/economics articles requested for more than a year? There's a rather lengthy backlog to be cleared in this subject area. Best, sh¤y 20:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The list isint as daunting now :). Do have a look if anyone can find the time. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 12:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Greenspun illustration project: requests now open

Dear Wikimedians,

This is a (belated) announcement that requests are now being taken for illustrations to be created for the Philip Greenspun illustration project (PGIP).

The aim of the project is to create and improve illustrations on Wikimedia projects. You can help by identifying which important articles or concepts are missing illustrations (diagrams) that could make them a lot easier to understand. Requests should be made on this page: Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project/Requests

If there's a topic area you know a lot about or are involved with as a Wikiproject, why not conduct a review to see which illustrations are missing and needed for that topic? Existing content can be checked by using Mayflower to search Wikimedia Commons, or use the Free Image Search Tool to quickly check for images of a given topic in other-language projects.

The community suggestions will be used to shape the final list, which will be finalised to 50 specific requests for Round 1, due to start in January. People will be able to make suggestions for the duration of the project, not just in the lead-up to Round 1.

thanks, pfctdayelise (talk) 13:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC) (Project coordinator)

[edit] List of top United States business schools

There is debate going on at WP:FLC about List of top United States business schools. We could use some feedback.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request assistance in price of oil article

Could someone with a firm understanding of global economics please have a look at this section and help rewrite it to be more meaningful? Right now the claims made are far too simplistic and appear to be original research. Discussion of the section is here. Thanks. NJGW (talk) 17:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adjust for inflation

Can I trouble someone from this project to provide a monetary figure after adjusting for inflation? In the article Iowa class battleship I provided a source stating that Iowa's cost US $125 million per ship, but that was back in WWII. Would some one be able to provide a cost equivilant today? TomStar81 (Talk) 06:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Sub-Project Proposal - Risk

Hi everyone,

I just thought I'd alert project members of my proposal for a sub-project in the same vein as the projects for Economics and Finance. Risk is a pretty expansive area - taking into account all the myriad categories and subcategories there must be in the region of 1000 articles, and barely any, if indeed any are of a high quality. I reckon its time to change that given how important risk is to the business world - very and increasingly so, for those who somehow don't know. As a risk management student I'm not impressed at current coverage here, so would like to improve things.

My work's language parameters somehow block out most of the proposals page so I can't add it for a few hours, but thought I'd get thoughts from here anyway. Below is what will be on the projects page in about 5 hours time when I get home (minus the Proposals page formatting, obviously). Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 16:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I welcome any questions or comments. And, of course, willing participants.

Risk

Description : This would be a sub-project ofWikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics, however I feel its scope is sufficient to warrant a project of its own in the style of Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics and Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance. There are only 60 articles in the main risk category, but there are also 8 subcategories, most with other subcategories, totalling several hundred articles. This project would cover all of these. This includes things like areas of risk management such as auditing, business continuity, insurance and health and safety, legal standards and guidelines, statistical instruments with which risks are measured, concepts and theories of risk, etc.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 16:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. Samiharris (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC) Good idea.
  3. Cutler - I'm in - interested in risk from engineering and legal aspects, both of which are, I think, complementary to the economic. Cutler (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Comments
There are many articles on these and related subjects, but only a minute number are of a high quality, and given the increasing importance in the business world of risk, I sincerely believe Wikipedia should have quality articles on these areas. Due to the increasing academia on the subject, coordination and effort should be all that is required to sort serious issues such as lack of sources. I am alerting Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics to my proposing this project. I welcome all interest with open arms.Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 16:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I agree. In fact, the quality of most finance related articles is pretty bad, and anything to counter that is welcome. --Samiharris (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support. It's now on the Project Proposal page.Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reminder of the Philip Greenspun Illustration project

Hi. You may be familiar with the Philip Greenspun Illustration Project. $20,000 has been donated to pay for the creation of high quality diagrams for Wikipedia and its sister projects.

Requests are currently being taken at m:Philip Greenspun illustration project/Requests and input from members of this project would be very welcome. If you can think of any diagrams (not photos or maps) that would be useful then I encourage you to suggest them at this page. If there is any free content material that would assist in drawing the diagram then it would be great if you could list that, too.

If there are any related (or unrelated) WikiProjects you think might have some suggestions then please pass this request over. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 16:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for third parties to evaluate Interchange Fee for accuracy and NPOV

I'd like to ask any interested editor to look at interchange fee, where I am having a dispute with another editor.

Take a look at the Talk page and let me know what you think.

Thanks.

GBYehuda (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Game theory FAR

Game theory has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

[edit] Historical logos

If anyone is looking to add historical logos of companies, I just found this site which seems to have a good number on it. [1]. MBisanz talk 07:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] KITA motivational method up for deletion

Please can you comment on this business related AFD, thanks. Englishrose (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] DVD

Please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_CD_Selection/additions_and_updates#Business for details of proposed changes to the 2007 Wikipedia for Schools to make the 2008 Wikipedia for Schools. Help with improving the selection would be welcome. The DVDs have quite a wide distribution in schools --BozMo talk 20:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WIkiProject Investment

I created a new WikiProject related to Finance but with a much tighter scope: WP:INVESTMENT. This project seeks to improve the quality of investment articles in particular. It is a subset of WikiProject Finance ignoring the banking and credit industry and related topics. My goal is to improve articles for the personal investor and democratize the markets with access to information. Please consider joining if you are interested. Greg Comlish (talk) 20:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SWX Swiss Exchange

Hi could somebody expand this article please? Given the association with Switzerland and accountancy you'd expect a half decent article on it. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please archive talk page

Can someone please set up a reasonable schedule or procedure for archiving this talk page? Suggestions are appreciated. Bold action is truly wonderful! --Foggy Morning (talk) 01:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Subject expert assistance needed following Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Mantanmoreland

Some of you may be aware that the above arbitration case raised concerns about possible bias and conflict of interest in the editing of several articles related to finance, business and biographies of businessmen and a business journalist. There are indications that biased editing was going on over an extended period of time. As a result, one of the remedies passed by the Arbitration Committee is:

The Arbitration Committee urges that knowledgeable and non-conflicted users not previously involved in editing naked short selling, Overstock.com, Patrick M. Byrne, and Gary Weiss should carefully review these and related articles for adherence to Wikipedia policies and address any perceived or discovered deficiencies. This is not a finding that the articles are or are not satisfactory in their present form, but an urging that independent members of the community examine the matter in light of the case.[2]

It strikes me that this is the project most likely to have editors who are knowledgeable and non-conflicted with respect to these articles. Would some of you be willing to carry the torch here and take on the task of systematically reviewing and revising these articles so that they are exemplars of Wikipedia's neutral point of view and verifiability pillars? I can assure you that there are many editors who have watchlisted the articles to keep an eye out for untoward elements that could interfere with such a process. Many of us would be indebted to you. Thanks. Risker (talk) 04:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] category renaming

The related Category:Banking technology solutions has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for Discussion page.

--Lukobe (talk) 06:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Complicated intersection of healthcare and business

A few years ago, a highly profitable drug called Tysabri was voluntarily withdrawn from the market because of a potential association with a rare and fatal condition called PML. Eventually, the drug was exonerated and returned to the market -- only the second time since the creation of the US FDA that a drug has ever been returned to the market.

Forbes reports that in response to the companies' voluntary withdrawal "shares in Biogen Idec, which sells Tysabri in the U.S., dropped 46%. Shares in (Irish biotech) Elan, which invented the drug, fell 68%."[3]  It's still hurting Biogen in the stock market.[4] These events seem like "big news" to me.

The drug's talk page is having problems with the proper handling of this information. One (and only one) editor is unhappy with including significant information about the drug's regulatory and business history. Efforts to "agree to disagree" have been fruitless; every week brings a new set of reasons why this "big news" should be minimized or buried for the sake of helping patients make the "right" choices.

Most of the editors on this page have some connection either to the specific drug (e.g., as a patient who has taken it) or to biological sciences in general. I'm not sure that any of us can adequately represent the history or business aspects (although several have tried). I thought it might be useful to get a broader perspective from some experienced editors with a business background. If you have an opinion on this, please consider leaving a note on that talk page. The latest round of the discussion is here. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Securities fraud

This article is in horrid shape and can use attention from editors experienced in this field. It is so lacking in substance that it is hard to say where to begin.--Bassettcat (talk) 01:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marketing and Sales WikiProject

Hi! I don't see many good sales articles on Wikipedia and a lot of the marketing articles could use some attention. Does anyone have an interest in starting a shoot off project from Business and Economics focusing on Marketing and Sales? If so, please let me know by commenting here or dropping me a comment on my user page. Muchris (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bretton Woods conference

The Bretton Woods conference, officially the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference, doesn't have a single source. This was one of the most important monetary conferences in history and had major impacts on economies throughout the world, so it deserves better attention. If anyone has sources available please add them. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 20:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes for economists

Alfred Marshall's page lacks an infobox. Is the Infobox Scientist the correct one to use? Itsmejudith (talk) 09:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge book value and carry value

If anyone is interested, please contribute to this debate. Thanks. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development

This article needs a serious rewrite. Currently, it looks like the type of entry you would expect to find in a directory where organisations present themselves (note the constant use of "we" and "our" in the article as well as the "Sign up here to receive our free newsletter" clause somewhere in the middle of the article). Would be great if someone could have a look a this. Thanks, --Mbimmler (talk) 17:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Economics

Business is a vast topic. What do you guys feel about splitting the Economics stuff off to the WikiProject Economics? Anyone who's interested should come over there. And maybe we should put some sort of link on each of these projects (Business, Economics, Investment) at the top of each page. ImperfectlyInformed | {talk - contribs} 22:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that this would be a good idea. The more focused the project is, the more efficient it becomes.
However, there will some articles that are not easy to allocate to a particular project but they will just be part of two projects (which is the case atm anyway).
You might want to consider adding Wikiproject Finance to your list.
Zain Ebrahim (talk) 22:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New template: Inflation

Hi! I'd like to inform that I've developed a new template, {{Inflation}} (click for documentation and usage examples), for use in, well, any article that need to have a monetary value in year 'x' properly inflated to year 'y' (or the current year, if no 'y' is provided). It currently holds yearly CPI inflation data for both the US and UK, so it's already useful for the English Wikipedia use. Example: writing the currency symbol before the result, and prettifying the number with {{formatnum:}}, {{Inflation|USD|1000000|1990|r=2}} results in $1,648,952.48 and {{Inflation|GBP|1000000|1323|1978}} results in £68,463,479. Pretty nice, eh? So, my question is: in which pages should I publicize this template so that others can discover it exists and start using it right away? -- alexgieg (talk) 01:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Smith has been chosen as the first article in WikiProject Economics' first Featured Article drive

I am posting here because Adam Smith was chosen as the first Featured Article that WikiProject Economics would work on. If you can, please help out and make this goal a reality! A discussion on this has begun at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Economics#The Featured Article drive is now closed. Thanks for your time! Gary King (talk) 14:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)