Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment

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[edit] Stub listing

I was wondering what (if any) policies or opinions there were on what stubs to list on this page. For instance, looking at the musician stubs, there are many missing. This would be okay if we're just looking for the main categories. The only thing is I don't think the Finland musician stub is a main category, while conductor and music producer stubs seem more basic. Any thoughts? --Amazzing5 19:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually waht it came down to, was me running out of steam copying over categories, so I figured those interested in certain areas could help finish it up and paste the rest. Personally I like having all listed as it's easier to find and copy what you need than clicking through them, but, yep, I didn't finish :-) Anyone want to help out? See the politics and government or royalty area for more fleshed out versions.... plange 01:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for expanding!! plange 19:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Musicians

I would just like the Arts and Entertainment Work Group - Musicians to know that the WikiProject on Musicians is undergoing a revival of sorts and would like to work with this project to ensure the improvement of musician and band-related articles. I added the project to the list. Thanks. -- Heaven's Wrath   Talk  04:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Cool! Might you be interested in organizing it as a Musicians work group instead? It really wouldn't be all that different than what you have now; you'd just move your current page to a sub-page of the Biography project, and we would add a line to our project tag that has a graphic for your group and says something like "this article is supported by the Musicians work group."? That way, you could make use of all the infrastructure (assessment, review processes, etc.) that we've already set up. What do you think? plange 14:47, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea - at the moment biographies of musical groups aren't covered. --kingboyk 09:10, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1.0 assessments and this work group

Thanks to kingboyk, we now have the assessments split into work groups to make things easier to digest! What does this mean? Well, now we have a nice work list that shows not only the quality scale, but also any comments left in the project banner template. Also, you'll notice we now have stats for this workgroup displayed on the workgroup page, and you also now have your own log of changes to quality and importance... plange 05:16, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of WP B/A & E

I've been adding your tag using the {{WPBiography}} to any articles that relate to your subject matter. However, I now wonder if you want them all added to your grouping. It only says on the tag page that the article should be within the scope of your group - which they are... but I wasn't sure if the articles were something that you selectively choose to include. Morphh 12:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope, we don't selectively choose, so tag away-- as long as they are in one of the disciplines covered by A&E they can get the a&e-work-group=yes flag (as long as they're not fictional characters). Thanks! plange 17:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Friendly reminder

Don't forget to use infobox templates for their specific field. There are more and better specific infoboxes than Template:Infobox Celebrity. 24.126.199.129 06:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I'd added infoboxes specific to disciplines (musician, architect, etc) so that would be a great place to start finding the appropriate one. If you see any missing be bold and add :-) plange 15:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to {{WPBiography}}

Dear workgroup, After discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography the importance= field has been changed on the Project template. The changes and how they affect this workgroup are as follows:

  • importance= has been deprecated in favour of priority=.
  • priority= is the same as importance, it's just a friendlier word. The meanings of the grades haven't changed.
  • Importance params should be removed (not an urgent task, just don't use importance= from now and on change any you see to priority= if you feel like it)
  • importance/priority is no longer assessed on a Project scale, except for the ~200 top core articles which use a new parameter core=yes
  • this means that the priority= ratings are now for the exclusive use of the workgroups
  • The workgroups are free to work out their own "importance" (priority) ratings. priority=Top is no longer off limits. So, for example, I've upgraded John Lennon to priority=Top. He's not on the core bios list but that doesn't matter, as the priority is only for the workgroups and Lennon is no doubt top priority/importance in the arts & entertainment field.

Hope that helps. Any questions to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography please. --kingboyk 09:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography formats

I wonder if we should create a standard format for filmography lists? Something that's been bugging me is how many filmographies follow the same format as the IMDb, including wording (suggesting a straight cut-and-paste making it borderline copyvio). Or, even if the wording isn't the same, the IMDb is the only film list that lists most recent films first. Logically, filmographies should have the earliest films at the top and then you work your way forward. Audrey Hepburn is an example of a filmography that was changed to the IMDb format (though I flagged it so it might have changed - in fact I intend to fix it myself). Thoughts? 23skidoo 23:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I think this sounds like a good idea. Also, do you know how filmographies are greeted during FAC? --plange 01:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
If by FAC you mean featured category nominations, to be honest I have seen zero consistency in that. One article is given a hard time at FAC for not having lists, while another might be given a hard time because it has lists. I've seen one too many articles lose their FA status for what I consider to be silly reasons, or denied for same. I don't bother with FA anymore on any articles I work on. It ain't worth the trouble. 23skidoo 03:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From Catholic Encyclopedia

I am currently working on categorising missing articles from the Catholic Encyclopedia 1912. You may be interested in a couple of categories that I've created:

Thanks! I've added these to the project page! --plange 21:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New artist infobox

Here Template:Infobox Artist. Arniep 17:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This template should conform much closer to Template:Infobox Writer, particularly how birth/death information is handled. It's too bulky as it is. *Sparkhead 01:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)

I've overhauled Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works) based on a 2nd round of feedback. Possibly it's complete and ready? Feedback (at it's talkpage) or improvements welcome :) --Quiddity 02:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filmography RFC

I've created an RFC to work out the details involved in making useful filmography sections. Check it out at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Filmography. - Peregrinefisher 21:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] adding junk to Frank Caliendo

An anonymous editor (special:contributions/130.127.230.167) keeps adding junk about football predictions to the Frank Caliendo article and getting rude to people who revert it. I would appreciate it if a couple of other editor would watch this article and revert him so that we can show him some consensus. --rogerd 01:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Quennell

Greetings! I come under the auspices of WikiProject Abandoned Articles, a project aimed at bringing abandoned articles to life. One such one is Peter Quennell, who appears to be a prolific author and literary critic. If anybody could spare their time, knowledge and expertise, we would appreciate if you could improve on the article and bring it back to life again! Thanks. Lord Pheasant 05:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joaquin Phoenix

Please check the Joaquin Phoenix article. I have the following questions: Is the "Trivia" section really necessary? Is it considered encyclopedic? Where are the cited references to these trivia alegations? If the alegations in the trivia section are verifiable facts, shouldn't they be worked into the article itself? I believe that the section should be eliminated since it doesn't present any sources to back up its claims. Input, anyone? Tony the Marine 14:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Arts and Entertainment parameters to WPBiography

WikiProject Arts and Entertainment is very wide in scope and includes Actors • Architects • Artists • Illustrators • Painters • Photographers • Sculptors • Comic artists • Comedians • Dancers • Directors • Musicians • Poets • Writers and critics. Musicians have their own WPBiography parameter, but none of the others do. I have proposed here that the WPBiography template be expanded to include parameters for each of the items. Please provide your thoughts on this proposal at this location. -- Jreferee 16:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Please also see User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld/Film biography page model for the early model of the project Film biography which is about to start. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 19:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't look like anybody's home to be honest... :( --kingboyk 15:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers

Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers has been established out of council consensus. Please help setting up the film section to the biography template and project components, - reorded Arts and Entertainment etc. Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 16:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dropping a line.

I have created an article on an author at this link Jason Frost (author). however, the name Jason Frost appears to be a publishing house pseudonym and neither me nor any one else can find out who the actual person is in order to create a decent biography. I have listed some of his books (mainly from early '80's. Pulp fiction mainly) which I own.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could help find out more about this man. Nateland 00:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello from the fashion project!

Greetings from the new WikiProject Fashion, which I hope some of you will be interested in taking notice of and accomodating under your wing, as we have found so far that, even given the absymal nature of most of Wikipedia's fashion coverage, the biographies are the pits save for Anna Wintour, which I'd been working on before the project was created, and a lot of the major models (surprise surprise!). Many aren't even tagged for this project, and {{blp}} has been missing from too many pages as well. So, in the course of assessing all the articles we know we have so far, I've been trying to fix that.

I have suggested over on our talk page that we should, when we have enough editors, we should form a biographies task force or something and coordinate it with you. So I'm making the outreach ... there doesn't seem to be a lot we can do toward that now, but at least maybe you should include fashion in the parameters suggested above. Daniel Case 22:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uma Thurman FAR

Uma Thurman has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:32, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lindsay Lohan FAR

Lindsay Lohan has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New sister project proposal

[edit] WikiProject Proposal - Australian literature

I have listed a proposal for an Australian literature WikiProject with the Project Council. If anyone is interested please go here and register your support or add your comments. Thanks. xx baby ifritah

[edit] W. B. Yeats FAR

W. B. Yeats has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 13:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: Merge Charles Crumb and Sophie Crumb into Crumb family

There have been some concerns about the notability of Charles Crumb. I suggest that this material be merged into a new article called Crumb family, which would discuss the artist family Crumb, including some material about the best-known members Robert Crumb and Aline Kominsky-Crumb (who would retain their own articles), as well as lesser-known members such as Charles Crumb and Maxon Crumb. I think the Sophie Crumb article should be merged into the Crumb family article for the time being as well – she's definitely an emerging artist, however, she has yet to produce a body of work that justifies an article longer than stub-length.

There is precedent in Wikipedia for doing family biographies, BTW – there are articles on the Dupont family and the Krupp family, for example.

Please discuss at Talk:Charles Crumb.

Peter G Werner 01:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Evie Greene

Needs lots of help to bring her up to scratch - including an infobox. - Kittybrewster (talk) 09:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured article review Austin Nichols

Austin Nichols has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. – Ilse@ 16:03, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malcolm Sargent

Conductor Malcolm Sargent's article has been nominated for promotion to Good Article. Please review the article and leave comments on the talk page about how to improve the article (or feel free to improve it on your own). I think it's a fine article and could become FA soon. -- Ssilvers 05:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deirdre Rubenstein - can someone check this for me please?

I am new to wikipedia editing and have started practicing filling in details on some biographies. Is it possible for someone to check what I have done and give me feedback? Stellar 12:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expert review: J. Redwood Anderson

As part of the Notability wikiproject, I am trying to sort out whether J. Redwood Anderson is notable enough for an own article. I would appreciate an expert opinion. For details, see the article's talk page. If you can spare some time, please add your comments there. Thanks! --B. Wolterding 15:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Stafford

Anonymous editor contributed to the article today with information that Stafford died on July 19, something that must be checked somehow. However, this subject appears an unlikely part of this work group. I would think it belonged to Science and academia. __meco 21:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rainhard Fendrich

Need help on thisone, and on my English. Further:

  • (Where) is there a step-by-step instruction on infoboxes?. If not: would "Associated_acts = Austria3" be correct? The group dissolved in 2006, and meanwhile, one of the three died.
  • "references": I frequently misuse the "ref" tag for footnotes - is there an appropriate tag for those?
  • I do not find a template corresponding DE "Template:Chartplatzierungen". In case there is, please adapt hidden text near the bottom of the article.

Thanks, Wolfgang any IP. 08:36, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expert review: Christine Monson

As part of the Notability wikiproject, I am trying to sort out whether Christine Monson is notable enough for an own article. I would appreciate an expert opinion. For details, see the article's talk page. If you can spare some time, please add your comments there. Thanks! --B. Wolterding 16:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox mergers

FYI, {{Infobox Celebrity}} & {{Infobox Biography}} have been merged into {{Infobox Person}}. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 12:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit wars?

I don't know where I should post this, but Valrith seems to be at it again. Of all things, he's waging edit wars on pornstar pages... Can something be done about this guy? He seems... kooky. 85.77.226.156 14:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

  • LOL... "Edit wars"? The bone of contention here is the article on Marketa Brymova. Valrith has made only two edits on that article period since the article was made in January. The first was prod'ing, then when you removed the prod, he put the article up for formal AFD. Hardly what I call warring... Tabercil 16:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Fonda

Henry Fonda has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Grim-Gym 02:30, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] George Moore (novelist) FAR

I just nominated George Moore (novelist) at FAR because it lacks inline citations. To comment or help improve the article, please see Wikipedia:Featured article review/George Moore (novelist). Calliopejen1 17:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cillian Murphy FAC

I recently nominated Cillian Murphy for FAC. There have been only three reviewers thus far, so it would be great to get some experienced biography editors to give the article a careful reading against the featured article criteria. Thanks! --Melty girl 04:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] George Devine

I've just added many more citations to this article. Could one of you lads re-assess it please? --El Ingles 19:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naresh Sonee

Could someone please have a look at this article and see whether they think the Naresh Sonee is notable? I have found zero google hits for books and scholar, and his English poems and articles are excrutiatingly bad. Anarchia (talk) 03:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are folks here aware

that there is a move afoot to (or so it seems) remove all images of sculpture in America created after 1923 as being copyright infringements? it's at James Earle Fraser now but it could be at your door next. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Ref's

Hey all. I was looking through some bio articles related to this task force and I found these 3 articles with no references. I figured that maybe one of you guys will be able to find the appropriate ref's. Anyway here are the articles:

Cheers!Calaka (talk) 14:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] add WikiProject Literature to the Writers and Critics box?

(wow -- that project page is very hard to navigate! Can these sections be split into separate pages?) In addition to adding the Literature portal for articles on authors and critics, should we also add the Literature WikiProject tag to the talk pages? I notice the Visual Arts Project tag is listed in the Artists section -- the same with Dancers. Thoughts? Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

also--can we include the author infobox template on the page? Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:12, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting assistance on Lope de Vega article

Greetings, members of the WikiProject Biography (Arts and Entertainment WorkGroup)! I'm putting out a request for any interested members of the Spain, Theatre, and/or Biography (Arts and Entertainment) Projects to provide some assistance with the article on Lope de Vega. The tone of the much of the text still seems to be from the 1911 Britannica; I believe the article could benefit from the incorporation of material from some additional references, along with the documentation of those references on the article page. "Lope" is definitely a notable figure, with articles listed at 29 "Other Language" interwikis, as of 6 April 2008, and listed as a Featured-Article on Spanish Wikipedia. There should be no shortage of references available :)

I'm requesting assistance at this time, because another editor recently (in my opinion mistakenly and/or inappropriately) deleted much of the article text as being in violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability; I believe this should not have happened, and as of 6 April have restored the deleted text; but the occurrence does underscore the fact that the article could use some updating and improved referencing; hopefully by a collaboration of editors.

Thanks, Lini (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Brian Sherwin

I've been working on this bio. Feedback would be great. I'm new so I'm still learning as I go. Once I finish the Sherwin bio I plan to create bios for other art critics and writers as well as articles about art fairs like Art Chicago and Scope. (Roodhouse1 (talk) 07:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC))