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[edit] Berbers discussion from Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

Description 
I believe this very unique culture, with a one-of-a-kind alphabet Tifinagh and history dating back as far as ancient Egypt, merits its own WikiProject. There is a beautiful portal at Portal:Berbers, and I think Wikipedia would benefit greatly from this.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Chris 18:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
  2. FayssalF - Wiki me up® 18:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
  3. Funkynusayri
  4. Skatewalk (Mainly Berbers in Iberia)
  5. Taprobanus 19:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
  6. Spectrum_X
  7. Domsta333 —Preceding comment was added at 03:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
  8. Æetlr Creejl 19:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  9. I.just.saw.a.face. (talk) 23:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
  10. --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 09:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  11. Folantin Maybe.
Comments

There seems to be enough support to at least merit a task force. Perhaps someone might want to contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups and see if they would be interested in taking it on? John Carter 15:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I would agree with John Carter. Perhaps the Berber people is too small (no offense) to be that important... perhaps the task force idea is best. PwnerELITE (talk) 01:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I won't hold your lack of knowledge against you, perhaps you'd better stick to topics you are familiar with. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Another alternative is to try to read the article, for example ("no offense"). --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 09:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Aside from spamming everyone's proposals with your inane oppose tags, what do you base your opposition on? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Chris. Do you have any idea if someone has contacted the Ethnic group WP? -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 10:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Fayssal-I do not know, I have not contacted them and am not in favor of contacting the Ethnic group WP, as I don't want to get buried in someone else's Project, the members above should do just fine in defining our scope. Plus I disdain those armchair editors who have been dismissive of this idea and want to sweep it into the Ethnic group WP. If you want to contact them, please do, but I favor an autonomous Project. I'm ready to make it fly. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Worth considering. Certainly more valuable and potentially longer-lived than WikiProject:Illyria. I believe the latest installment of the French Encyclopédie berbère is volume number 27 and it's only reached the letter 'K', so there should be plenty of information to add to Wikipedia if anyone wants to take this really seriously. Our Berber articles need a thorough overhaul, including the main Berber peoples article.--Folantin (talk) 10:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reliable sources

Not sure there are that many books on the Berbers in English. The obvious one (which I have in my possession) is Michael Brett and Elizabeth Fentress The Berbers (Blackwell Peoples of Africa, 1996). Some of it can be accessed at Google books here [1]. I'd expect there to be more resources in French. On the other hand, information about the Numidians, for instance, will be dealt with in many Classical history works. I expect the most problematic area will be the contemporary period because that involves the most political controversy. We really need to find some sources which give us reliable information about the number of Berbers in various North African countries, for example. --Folantin (talk) 18:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)