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Could someone make an adopt-a-user barnstar for adopters? Some really deserve it. If,and when, it's completed, tell me on my talk page. Thanks. Me what do u want? _{Your Hancock Please} —Preceding comment was added at 19:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

There is already {{Adopt-a-User Barnstar}}. Copied to user talk. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BarnStars

Can only admin award BarnStars, or can anyone just award it to whoever they want? I'd think that if anyone could award it, than it would suffer from a lot of vandalism (people awarding them to themselves, etc). Nick4404 yada yada yada 15:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars can be giving by anyone I do believe, and the honor system or self-policing helps keep the self-awarding in check. ArcAngel (talk) 16:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why do barnstars have to be substituted?

I'm curious to know why barnstars have to be substituted? Why can't they just be transcluded, since that looks cleaner? Gary King (talk) 16:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

If they are transcluded then the display at the receiver will change when the original is edited. This is generally considered bad for something posted to a specific user. See also Wikipedia:Template substitution#Benefits of substitution. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ridiculous Barnstars

Can they be got rid of?

Category: Social sciences and Society (Economics, government & politics, law, royalty & nobility, war)

Why on earth is there a Royalty and Nobility Barnstar? It's reactionary, elitist, and adds to the sociological phenomemon whereby the doings of the members are seen of more import and significance than other members of society. Note the ostentation design of this Barnstar.

Powderfinger Barnstar. A Barnstar dedicated to promoting a single rock band? Also needs to be got rid of. WP would be improved by the removal of this stuff. Centrepull (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Like other topical barnstars, {{The Royalty's Barnstar}} is given for edits about a topic. The description at Wikipedia:Barnstars#Topical Barnstars says: "The Royalty and Nobility Barnstar is awarded to editors who make significant contributions to royalty and nobility related articles that expand Wikipedia’s knowledge about the biographies of people belonging to royalty and/or nobility." The background of the editor doesn't matter. The description should maybe be copied to documentation at {{The Royalty's Barnstar}}.

You have misread/misunderstood me. I am complaining about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:The_Royalty%27s_Barnstar, not the editors. You have not addressed any of my given reasons (above) why this Barnstar should not exist. Centrepull (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The "Bernstar" for edits about Powderfinger does appear narrow for the main Wikipedia:Barnstars page. It could be moved to Wikipedia:Awards by WikiProject since there is Wikipedia:WikiProject Powderfinger. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Can someone move the Powderfinger Barnstar to Wikipedia:Awards by WikiProject as suggested, as I don't know how to do this. Centrepull (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

There are lots of barnstars and I don't think the existence of The Royalty and Nobility Barnstar or other topical barnstars implies that the subject is of particular importance compared to other things. Many TV series have their own barnstar at Wikipedia:Awards by WikiProject. Lots of royalty and nobility satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people) so it's natural to have many articles about them, like other encyclopedias do. A barnstar could be created for lots of topics with many articles. Barnstars are not part of the encyclopedia and I don't think it's important which topics have a barnstar or how they are designed.

The Powderfinger "Bernstar" was removed from the main barnstar page before your post.[1] If somebody adds it to Wikipedia:Awards by WikiProject instead then I don't object. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Strongly oppose. Powderfinger does not have its own WikiProject, so it does not belong on Wikipedia:Awards by WikiProject or on the main awards page, since it does not have general applicability. You may place it on Wikipedia:Personal user awards. --Eustress (talk) 02:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar creep

I hope I'm not duplicating any previous discussion (which would be ironic considering my concern), but many of the new barnstars seem to duplicate previously existing barnstars. Given that we have the "Cool as a Cucumber Award" and the Barnstar of Good Humor, do we need the Anti-Flame Barnstar, for example? Since we have a Working Man's Barnstar for "those who work tirelessly and endlessly on the more laborious or repetitive of Wikipedia tasks," why is there also an Invisible Barnstar for people who work in the background? The "What a Brilliant Idea" barnstar and the "Red" barnstar seem to be identical, and what's this Content Creativity barnstar? It's for adding content? Don't all editors add content? Maybe I'm being too stodgy, but it seems like a lot of clutter and confusion. Fishal (talk) 20:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I have this impression too, but since these awards are non-serious and "behind-the-scenes" I don't think it is important to fix anything. The one that particularly confuses me is this "special barnstar" that I sometimes see on userpages...what is special about it? Dwr12 (talk) 21:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, if you see any of these duplicate barnstars, I say be bold and remove them from the page and give a good edit summary or put an explanation here. The Special Barnstar, as I understand it, is supposed to be kind of a wild-card, miscellaneous award, which is helpful, but the name is a bit misleading—perhaps replace Special with Potpourri, Miscellaneous, Wild Card, Peculiar, or something along those lines. --Eustress (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

That kind of sounds like a general barnstar, which I thought the original barnstar was for. That is why I don't understand it. Dwr12 (talk) 22:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, good point. Well, I wouldn't object to removing the Special Barnstar then. --Eustress (talk) 13:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

Is it me or are the barnstars poorly named? For example I noticed Image:Barnstar-lightbulb3.png is supposed to be the technology barnstar yet it is named as the "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar. What is going on? -- Cat ^chi? 17:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Does it say somewhere it is only supposed to be a technology barnstar? Wikipedia:Barnstars says: "This barnstar should be awarded to a user who figures out an elegant solution to a particularly burdensome bottleneck or problem, or who identifies a means to improve Wikipedia in a profound way. Adapted from the technology barnstar." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

"English: The Technology Barnstar may be awarded to an editor who makes particularly fine Technology-related contributions. This award was introduced on March 3, 2005 by brian0918 and ClockworkSoul, and was designed by brian0918. See also Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Archive1/Technology." (from the image description page)

I don't think it's a problem...I like the barnstars that can be used for all subjects better than the subject-specific ones. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 01:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Just noticed...

That one of the shortcuts here is WP:BS. Me what do u want? _{Your Hancock Please} 16:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Policeman's Barnstar?

I wonder whether it is appropriate to award a Banstar for protecting Wikipedia against Crackpot writing. I know we are to assume Good Faith, nevertheless the reality is that we do get over, and over again such things as Racism. In particular, I know of a Wikipedia who spots such Trash and is able to Revert such writing to its pervious version. I think of him as a kind of Knight (perhaps better than a Policeman) and I would like to award him a Barnstar for his work. Can I get some advice on that?

(1)Is calling ovious Crackpot writing a violation of "Assuming Good Faith?"
(2)Is it appropriate to award a Wikipedian a Barnstar for his Policing activity (reverting obvious Racist writing, for example)?

--Ludvikus (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP24 Award?

I don't feel that WP24's barnstar should be listed on the page yet as the project does not yet have a general audience—the project doesn't even have any FAs or GAs yet. Any thoughts? --Eustress (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm more concerned that it isn't mentioned at Wikipedia:WikiProject 24 and hasn't been awarded. It was added [2] by a member of the WikiProject but that appears to so far be the only connection to the project. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

It was added by me. It hasn't been awarded to anyone yet as the project has only been recently re-structured. I'd strongly oppose deletion, if it is to merely be moved to the project space then so be it. I haven't added it to the Wikiproject page yet as I've been rather busy with the Mediation Cabal. I'll do it now and remove it myself. Regarding FA's and GA's, I'd dispute whether the fact we have no FA's or GA's means it doesn't warrant inclusion. There are more complicated things that are going on, but never mind. I'll deal with them as co-ordinator. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 02:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree that moving the award to the project page for now would be more appropriate. However, as this relates to a more overarching issue and as a member of WP Awards, I feel that some kind of guideline needs to be determined as to which WP awards should be listed on this page and which ones should just be kept within WP homepages. Either all WP awards should be listed here or some kind of bar needs to be set (whether it be number of articles under a WP, number of FAs/GAs, number of participants, etc.). Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 04:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for new barnstar

I would like to ask for help in creating a Barnstar suitable for award to editors active within WikiProject UK Railways. There are a number of editors who tirelessly patrol pages, create new content and share their expertise of the subject matter in discussions.

Could someone let me know how I go about creating a new award for this project? I'm not that good with graphics, but would have a go! What are the guidelines on image size, colours etc and are there any basic elements that I can use (i.e. the star itself) that already exist?ColourSarge (talk) 23:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Working Womyn barnstar.

The working man's barnstar is redundant, because of the tireless contributor barnstar and the barnstar of diligence.

Aside from that, the gender pronoun looks silly, so I suggest deleting it. ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 02:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

It is years old and has been awarded lots of times. It would probably cause confusion to delete it now and I oppose. The gender can be changed. See the documentation at {{The Working Man's Barnstar}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar of Peace - what happened?

The image from the Barnstar of Peace has disappeared. What happened? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.234.39.195 (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

It hasn't disappeared for me. {{Barnstarofpeace}} uses Image:Peace Barnstar 6.png. Is it this you don't see? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It was gone, then came back, and now it's gone again! Very strange. 68.214.72.106 (talk) 00:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wow.

I think there are too many of these things, some of them are needless duplicates or for cheesy/superfluous purposes. Like, why have EVERY religion represented as a Barnstar, when a Religion Barnstar could cover them all. And I hope I NEVER get a Barnstar for anything. It's stupid clubhouse crap like handing out awards that makes the world not take Wiki seriously. Whatever happened to just saying "Hey man, you did a great job!"?

Barnstars are totally pointless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitsunexus (talk • contribs) 05:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good liar barnstar

Somehow I don't think vandals should receive barnstars, since these are supposed to be rewards and not abuse flags. Thoughts? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 01:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

This barnstar is completely against Wikipedia guidelines, namely WP:Etiquette. I have reverted it. --Eustress (talk) 01:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards#Reference Desk Barnstar. Did you get rid of the image, too? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 01:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The Reference Desk Barnstar has been salvaged to be awarded "to an editor who makes a contribution to the Wikipedia Reference Desks that is exceptionally useful to a person who seeks assistance there" (see WP:Barnstars). However, I nominated the Good Liar Barnstar for deletion (TfD) and invite all to submit their opinions/votes—WP:Templates for deletion. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 02:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not referring to that barnstar, but the ones mentioned after it in the same topic. They were immediately deleted as well, but do the images and templates still exist? Thanks for your prompt action. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 12:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the other ones you're referring to, but frankly, if people want to create their own images and give them to people, that's their prerogative...but I would think the true compliment would come from receiving a bona fide barnstar that is good enough to be listed here. Just my thoughts. I think this page needs a lot more guidance and leadership, but hopefully we can open the dialogue. --Eustress (talk) 12:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Custom pictures are far more impressive, one-of-a-kind awards. ;) But we should not reward vandalism. Whoever created that award, what are you trying to do, sabotage Wikipedia? Hey, he's a strategic vandal! Quick, get him! The Transhumanist 04:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] General barnstars

Someone redirected General barnstars here. Won't this mess up anything? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 16:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Which ones are you referring to? I recently moved all code onto each page to make editing more convenient and accessible, leaving the third-party pages as redirects. Have you come across any problems? Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

No, but a red flag went up in my mind when I saw the redirect over the original page. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 18:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay...please specify which original page? Please provide a URL here so I can double-check. --Eustress (talk) 18:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Barnstars/General Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 21:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

It goes to the appropriate place, the same place Wikipedia talk:Barnstars goes. The Transhumanist 04:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic designer needed

I'm looking for a skilled graphic designer.

I need an image for a non-barnstar Wikipedia award with the theme "World Traveler".

I was thinking perhaps the following image, without the barnstar, and with the globe (or another one) superimposed over the Wikipedia globe (or the Wikipedia globe superimposed over it) - I'd like to see the world's countries and the puzzle pieces (with the continents more prominent).

The image also needs a passport laying on the surface beneath the globe stand (where its shadow is, but the shadow should be retained as well). The image's background must be transparent (not white like the background of the image below).

Is this something you can do?

If so, please contact me on my talk page.

I look forward to your reply.

The Transhumanist 04:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Harry Potter Star

Can someone correct this ? Do not know how to do this: ... The Harry Potter Star is awardedn to thos that contribute significantly to Harry Potter articles and the Harry Potter Portal.

It's a spelling issue: is awarded to those Hope this helps, Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Has anyone noticed...

that the featured star looks like an actual barnstar, not a star anchor!? Talk about bizarre twists of fate!--Editor510 (talk) 20:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion barnstar

Strangely this seems like a proposal i made a couple of years ago (titled discussion barnstar). Simply south (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I created it when I could not find an appropriate award to give to someone as a thanks for their advice when they did not realize it was being used to make Wikipedia a better place. I would have been happy with a premade barnstar, especially since I am not good at digital graphic design, but wouldn't settle for "barnstar" or "special barnstar". It didn't fit into any category. It's been awarded a few times now already, and only the first instance was my own. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks a slightly better design then i did, which now i think is pretty rubbish. It was not a digital design, just paint. Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/Archive15#Discussion award\Barnstar (or better title needed) Simply south (talk) 22:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I gotta say yours look just as good as my own. You can see the one I made here, and it's the one on the right. The one on the left was made by SimpsonsFan08, who was subsequently banned for controlling sockpuppet accounts. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar Barnstar !

WP Awards Barnstar?

How about a barnstar given to editors who tirelessly contribute to the creation of good barnstars, and the removal of bad ones ! Machete97 (talk) 11:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Finally, a Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards barnstar! Every WikiProject needs one! Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 13:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

What if I make one from the image to the right? It is supposed to represent the colors of the six main general barnstars (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AwardAward.JPG for explanation). --Eustress (talk) 02:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

The main six? Are you telling me audio is overlooked AGAIN? [wicked grin] Seriously, is a Barnstar Barnstar not a bit... eh... incesteous (for lack of a better word)? As far as I can see the only people who contribute to a healthy barnstar collection are the participants on this project. And the people most likely to receive such a star would be the participants on this project. And the star would be awarded to them by... exactly. In short, I have my doubts. Channel ® 22:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I certainly hope that if this passes into use that I get one of these! ;) – Clockwork Soul 22:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposition: the Audio Barnstar

I've designed an Audio Barnstar. A barnstar for those editors who add high quality audio files to the wiki. (As usual in visually orientated media, audio contributions are a little overlooked.) Unfortunately I don't know how to make templates and such, so if somebody else would be kind enough to add this thing to the Barnstar page and make it work, I'd be most grateful. Channel ® 11:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Hold on, I think I got it sorted. Channel ® 11:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Yep, it works fine. So, because I was encouraged to be bold and because I think it was long overdue: ladies and gentlemen, I present to you The Audio Barnstar. Channel ® 12:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

One small problem left: English isn't my first language and I have some difficulty copy-editing the blurb. Basically it's an award for people who create soundfiles for Wikipedia (how a violin sounds, guitar feedback, white noise, vocoder, binaural audio, and other sound examples), upload rare audio files (mainly historical recordings), or add their own, original music (to demonstrate a musical form like a fuge, for example). In short, anything but the usual snippets from commercially released CDs.

I have a description up, but it's not too good. If somebody feels the need to copy-edit it, by all means.... Channel ® 01:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the description is fine and the barnstar is a good idea. The award does look a bit similar to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/WikiProject Films Award though. If you can differentiate it a bit, that would be best. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 15:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Audio reels and film reels are both reels so similarity is virtually unavoidable, I think. Although the brown colour of the audio tape is quite different from the black colour of a reel of film. But I see what you mean and I'll try to come up with something to make the star look more audio-ish. Channel ® 20:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I made the audio reel a little more prominent (better recognizable) and I added a computer audio waveform to the background. I first considered adding a VU meter or a microphone, but that made the design too crowded and messy. Besides, the waveform is quite a wellknown audio symbol by now. I hope the difference between the Audio Star and the Film Project star is now big enough to prevent confusion. (Is it?) Channel ® 22:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a winner...great job! --Eustress (talk) 22:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. A job worthy of a barnstar ;-) Channel ® 23:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Look good?

I am a member of the newly formed WikiProject Chicago Cubs. I have created a requested barnstar for major contributors to the project. Is this one good?

		The WikiProject Chicago Cubs Barnstar!
		{{{1}}}

Is there anything I should do better? Thanks! WikiZorro^sign 10:14, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I would remove the exclamation point. Also, I'm not sure how a picture of a baseball diamond constitutes a barnstar. When you add the award, be sure to add it under Wikipedia:Awards by WikiProject. --Eustress (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

To me, unless it has an actual barnstar in it, it is not a Barnstar. That doesn't mean it can't be a WikiProject award, but the name should be changed to reflect that. A baseball barnstar should be pretty easy to create. Take a baseball photo and add a barnstar shape in red stitching, for example (very original). Or, superimpose a baseball over the hole in the star (more traditional look, but much less unique). Or any other thing you can think of incorporating the Barnstar motif. But that's just my opinion, not any sort of policy.

Secondly, it would seem prudent to create a single Barnstar for use by all related WikiProjects. Then, the text of the Barnstar (rather than the picture) could be updated to reflect the individual project's name. That would give a more consistent look, while keeping the total number of Barnstars down to a more reasonable number. --Willscrlt (Talk) 23:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. It was replaced anyhow. Thank you.Wiki Zorro^sign 23:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Remove the exclamation point, and include a star shape somewhere. Also, just by looking at the picture, this could easily represent any baseball team's project, or even a generic baseball project. Is there any way you could distinguish this from the other baseball teams (without using copyrighted material)? Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quick query on proposals

Why was the proposals page got rid of\made historic? Simply south (talk) 20:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An idea

Could a graphic designer make a Reality TV barnstar? Shapiros10 WuzHere 14:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Is it to be associated with a WikiProject? --Eustress (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know. Probably WP:TV. Shapiros10 WuzHere 15:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Filmbarnstar.png

Can this barnstar please be fixed, it is cropped off on the bottom and right side. Thank you in advance. - Roy Boy 23:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

You might contact User:Pegship, who was the original uploader of the image and might have the uncropped verson; but maybe another editor has a more efficient idea. --Eustress (talk) 00:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar clusters

There was a time, long ago, when I wanted to award science contributors of note with few or no awards. So I created (with the help of multiple contributors) BarnstarClusters to reward, but more importantly show their skills were broadly recognized by their subject peers. I encourage other subjects to do this. - Roy Boy 03:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)