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[edit] network logo's

I just noticed the use of Television network logo's on List of Australian television ratings for 2006. This is not a Fair Use of the image under the current Fair Use policy of Wikipedia. The images should be removed from that page and substituted with the network name. --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 20:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

This is correct. Fair use images are not allowed to be used for decorative purposes.--cj | talk 11:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Insight article does not need to be created, just expanded

A request for the article Insight (TV Series), is not required, as it can already be accessed here. -- Permafrost 09:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TEN idents

Between me and Eddie Blake, we had uploaded most of the Network TEN idents on List of Network TEN slogans. Someone has blanked out the section, is there a way to revert it? It's a lot of work to type the table up again. BTW, nice job on the WP stickeylabel. ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 13:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article collaboration and assessment

Partly because it's currently wrapping airing and that I have an interest in it, I've been heavily contributing to The Biggest Loser Australia (Season 2) and thought it could be collaborated on further while information about the show is still available and ripe, before interest wains and information is harder to gather. I've been doing a bit of work on it and would really like to try and get it to a GA or A status somehow, as there are none in Australian Television articles. I think the information there is pretty much all that can be said about the show, besides the sub article for complete list of episodes (currently at work in my sandbox) and bulking out some of the sections a little, wording it more concisely and adding some primary images. I was wondering how the article could be improved to achieve a higher assessment rating, or if it's already achieved that? As a side, I was wondering if the naming convention is correct, ie. maybe the article should actually be something more like: The Biggest Loser (Australian TV series) Season 2 or The Biggest Loser (Australian TV series: Season 2) or The Biggest Loser 2 (Australian TV series). Peter 04:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pay-TV

Can we have a Pay-TV version of {{Australian free-to-air television networks}} made? - Mike Beckham 05:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Certantly, that was my original goal. I will work on one in the near future. Thanks. Stickeylabel 05:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I have completed the Australian subscription television navigational box as can be seen at {{Subscription television channels in Australia}}. Thanks. Stickeylabel 10:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category trawling

Greetings fellow tv watchers - just found comment at Category:Home and Away cast members where a vote for change from category to list earlier this year has not been followed up. Wondering if anyone was going to followup on that issue or not. No sweat either way - thought I'd bring it to your attention, cheers SatuSuro 00:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] News presenter infoboxes

I've been browsing and noticed a bit of incosistency between the various news presenter infoboxes ([1][2][3]). I'm about to create ones for the ABC and SBS in the same style as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:SevenNewsAnchors given that it's the only one using http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox_generic - which appears to be the correct one.

Right now I'm working to fix this - I was just wondering if anybody had a particular opinion on it. timgraham 11:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Template:ABCNewsPresenters has been created: [4]. I'm currently adding it to each presenter's article.
Great work TimG, the infoboxes are very consistant, and I'd love to see an SBSNewsPresenters infobox. Stickeylabel 21:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
SBS's be done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:SBSNewsPresenters. I've added what I know about past presenters to the ABC/SBS ones although I'm sure there are a lot that are missed out - if anyone knows any past presenters (particularly ABC) it'd be good if they could add them. timgraham 04:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

ive added info boxes a while ago for National Nine news presenters, and the today show. Template:NineNewsAnchors and Template:TodayPresenters

[edit] SBS News & Current Affairs

Given that all links relating to news and current affairs on SBS in general point to SBS World News Australia, I feel that there should probably be a page similar to ABC News and Current Affairs - given that the ABC and SBS are very simmilar, the structure of each section should probably be roughly similar. Does anyone else have thoughts on this? timgraham 11:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] News Service Layout

The discussion has been moved from the National Nine News talk page.

It was agreed on the WIN Television talk page that these headings were unneccessary and ugly - I'd like to question why they're included here? They don't add to that article and they prevent the proper structure from appearing in the table of contents and they are inconsistent with almost any other article on Wikipedia. There's also a number of web accessibility issues that arise from using tables for layout. timgraham 03:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree and I also propose an overhaul of news service article's that are covered by WikiProject Australian television. I believe the current layout is inconsistent with almost any other article on Wikipedia, and I believe that we should set a precedent for all other news service article's to follow. As this issue covers a range of articles for WikiProject Australian television, I have therefore moved discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian television. Stickeylabel 04:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the layout on the articles needs improvement, but so does their content - at the moment many of them are little more than an introductory paragraph and list of presenters - ideally something more like the article for World News Australia - some history and background and then details for each bulletin (ideally stuff about past names, presenters, signifagance, whatever). timgraham 06:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I totally agree, alot of the articles are merely lists and serve little purpose. I think the first task should be to expand the articles, and to cite alot fo the information also. I have worked a bit on the navigation, however it will still need some more work. Stickeylabel 09:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Having recently rescued the Seven News article from being a glorified list of late, it appears that some have begun to add useless presenter details - I'd just like to point out that it's easier to follow when you have meaningful information rather than complicated bullet points.
Great work TimG, the article is far easier to read, and has much more substance. Also, it's great to see the bulk of lists integrated into actual paragraphs. I have added the article to my watch list, so I can monitor any vandalism. Stickeylabel 22:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Episode coverage

The WikiProject Television episode coverage taskforce have recently been working on a review process for episode articles. There are a rash of articles about individual episodes which fail notability, and are unlikely to ever reach such requirements. Many contributors are unaware of the specific guidelines to assess notability in episode pages: Wikipedia:Television episodes. We have expanded these guidelines to make them more helpful and explanatory, and we invite you to read the guidelines, and make any comments on its talk page. After much discussion, we have created a proposed review process for dealing with problem articles. See: Wikipedia:Television article review process. We invite discussion of this process on its talk page. General comments about this whole process are welcome at the episode coverage taskforce talkpage. Thanks! Gwinva 10:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] episode article review notice

The individual episode articles for 20 to 1 are now being reviewed according to episode notability guidelines. Please contribute to the discussion on Talk:20 to 1#Episode review. Thanks. -- Ned Scott 04:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australian television

May I please request that all members join the discussion at Talk:Australian television, and collaborate to expand the stub. The article is in need of immediate attention due to its high importance for WikiProject Australian television. Australian television should become an article of which summarises programming, broadcasting, news, presenters, and ratings, and which provides links to the main articles for each of these areas. Please continue discussion either below, or at Talk:Australian television, and please contribute to the article to raise its class status. Stickeylabel 08:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Australian television is a candidate to be the Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight. Please comment on the nomination.Stickeylabel 09:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ten News articles

I'm a little confused as to why there are three articles for Ten News - the main one, Ten Early News and Ten Late News with Sports Tonight. None of the other Australian stations have individual articles for each bulletin, and Ten News isn't particularly distinctive or different, not enough to warrant a totally different structure of article.

I think the main one needs to be the focus moreso than seperate ones for each bulletin. I would do the whole propose-to-merge-and-discuss-it thing but I'm not sure how. What are others' thoughts?timgraham 04:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree timgraham, I have now merged Ten Early News and Ten Late News with Sports Tonight into Ten News. Each bulletin does not deserve a seperate article. Stickeylabel 06:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, it needs a bit of attention (it's lacking a bit content-wise). I'll try and add some more info over the next few days. timgraham 09:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Good work with the copy-editing of the Ten News article Tim :), I'll help try and expand a few sections as it currently seems to be stub-like. Stickeylabel 10:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
The article seems to have been reverted with certain sections. I will try and fix and expand certain sections soon. Stickeylabel 06:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Digital television in Australia

May I please request that all members of the WikiProject join the collaboration at Talk:Digital television in Australia, in order to expand the article, and raise it to a GA standard. Thanks. Stickeylabel 06:59, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Optus Aurora

I was about to start an article on it but noticed it had been deleted - why? I can see there is an article for RABS which to be honest confuses me since I can't really tell what it's actually about. It says that Optus Aurora is the platform although they appear to be the same.

I'm inclined to go with Optus Aurora though because of this description on Optus' website:

The Optus Aurora system provides transmission of free–to-air services for the national broadcasters, remote area commercial broadcasters, business television providers, radio broadcasters and audio narrowcasters. Reception of the services can be direct to home (DTH) or direct to business (DTB) via a satellite dish, set top box and Optus Aurora smartcard, or via retransmission facilities using terrestrial transmitters for broadcast to TV's.

The Optus Aurora system is designed to operate in an encrypted format, making use of smartcards, within the set top boxes, to decrypt the services applicable to the entitlements on the particular smartcard, held by the set top box. There are a few special instances where a small number of Aurora services are transmitted without encryption, allowing reception without a smartcard, but in general an official Optus Aurora smartcard is required for correct operation.

I think it would be correct to say that it's more a part of RABS, than the same thing.

Anyway, what are people's thoughts on creating thise article? I think it's pretty important since it's the only way for a lot of Australians to receive television.timgraham 05:23, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree Tim, in my opinion just create the article at Optus Aurora, and delete the RABS article, as in my opinion an Optus Aurora article would be more appropriate. I am not sure why it was initally deleted though. Stickeylabel 05:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Research links

Since there doesn't seem to be huge amounts of info I thought I'd start a list here of sites that might help with respect to researching and referencing stuff in Australian TV articles. The following sites might be of use:

There are a few others I've probably forgotten.

And another thing, how come all the articles for the various ABC regions (eg ABC Western have been merged with the respective capital city articles? There's a lot more to them than just the ABC TV stations - local radio for one, and there are quite a few of those. The ABC themselves tend to detail their history in terms of radio and television rather than just one or the other, so it would be good to dem-merge those articles. timgraham 02:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Television ratings in Australia

The article, Television ratings in Australia, is in need of urgent attention. There is alot of information that could be ellaborated in this article, however at current it is very stub-like. I have added a framework for the article, however it is still minimal and other sections could be added. I have created a discussion section at Talk:Television ratings in Australia. Stickeylabel 13:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

If you go down to "Categories" on the WikiProject Australian television page, you'll see that clicking on "Australian television series" reveals five categories. Is there any plausible reason why [[Category:Farscape|Farscape] should have its own sub-category? Although there may be more than one page on Farscape, it doesn't mean that it should be elevated to the same level as other sub-categories which are clearly of a different nature (e.g. Australian television series by genre), surely? Cyril Washbrook 08:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current programming schedules?

I have noticed some pages contain listing of the current programming schedules. Should they really be included? According to Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory they shouldn't be. I'm not familiar with the Aus TV project so I bought it up here first rather than just barge in. Wongm (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

(delayed reaction) I agree with you. I have started a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Television schedules in network articles. Anyone with an opinion about this should go there and express their opinion. In lack of any dissenting opinions, I am going to remove the schedules from Australian TV network articles per WP:NOT a TV Guide. - Mark 02:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [5]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 02:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 in Australian television

Project members might like to note the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1996 in Australian television --Matilda talk 23:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images in Australian television articles

I have just performed a quite exhaustive (and exhausting) examination of a large number of Australian TV articles, to find fair use images which are being used in articles without fair use rationales for their use in those specific articles. I have created a list of all of them, which I will paste below. If anyone is interested in saving these images from being deleted/removed from use, please add detailed fair use rationales to the image pages, then strike through the image name below to indicate which ones have been done. - Mark 17:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Images which need fair use rationales, with the articles they need a rationale for:

[edit] ABC Shows

[edit] Channel Seven

[edit] Channel Nine

[edit] Channel Ten

[edit] SBS

[edit] Regionals and community TV

[edit] Pay TV

[edit] Sunday (TV program)

The Sunday article has a big problem with copyright infringement with the bulk of it being copied and pasted from Ninemsn Sunday - Our History. It is also written like an advertisement. It is at present a candidate for a speedy delete. --WikiCats (talk) 21:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)