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[edit] Category:People from Assam

Can we organize the personalities in category:People_from_Assam

Bikram98 09:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

How do you propose to do that? Would you put personalities, say Jyoti Prasad Agarwala, in multiple categories? Assamese writers, Filmmakers of Assam, Musicians of Assam, etc? That would be sensible. Chaipau 13:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, let us put in that fashion. We also need to consolidate the Sub-categories. Bikram98 16:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Politicians of Assam

It might be better to make this a sub-category of Category:Indian politicians. Then we may remove them from the "Indian Politician" category, which is overcrowded. Chaipau 14:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Bikram98 16:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Branding for WikiProject Assam

[edit] Image for WP:WikiProject Assam

We need an image for this WikiProject. Please discuss the suggestions, or add more. A most culturally neutral symbol is best.

  • Rhino - the most accepted image
  • Elephant - Assam has been known for its elephants from the hoary past
  • Seal of the Kamarupa kings - historical symbol

Assam tea is going with the rhino. I would go with the rhino for this WikiProject too. Chaipau 15:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

More suggestions:

  • The Rangghar.
  • Map of Assam with Brahmaputra prominantly marked.

Personally, here is my preference in order : (1) Rhino, (2) Rangghar, (3) Seal of the Kamarupa kings (this is something new; never seen before) --Bikram98 16:37, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I would support any of the following:

  • Rhino
  • Map of Assam with/without Brahmaputra
  • the word "অসম" (Assam) in Assamese.

I would like to oppose specific Ahom connotations in order to be inclusive. --Deepraj | Talk 13:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

A close reading of history will tell you that the Ahom kingdom was indeed inclusive. It was, in fact, called the Kingdom of Assam contemporaneously, and that the word Ahom was used for an ethnic community and extended to the old kingdom only in colonial times. (Saikia, Yasmin (2001)) People from different ethnic backgrounds, which included Brahmins, Nagas as also Mishings, rose to high offices in the Ahom kingdom (Phuleshwari Kunwonri, a non-Ahom, was a Nati dancer,and her brother became the Borgohain). The Barahi community disappeared into the "Ahom" community. Mir Jhumla's chronicler was disgusted with the local Muslims, because they were more "Assamese" than Muslims and did not help Mir Jhumla in his conquest. The swargadeo's maintained the older deodhais as well as brahmin priests in state matters. The Ahom kingdom was indeed an inclusive kingdom.
The Ranghar is a symbol of people participating in sports. In its fields today people dance during the Rongali Bihu, as people used to during the times of the Ahom kings. The Bihu today is so popular in part because the Ahom kings accepted it as a national festival and patronized it.
Chaipau 10:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox for WP Assam

I am putting together an userbox for members of the project. If you have any suggestions/preferences do let me know. --Deepraj | Talk 13:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Priyankoo has just published a Userbox for people coming from Assam. We can stick with that one for the time being until more ideas develop. You can add {{User Assam}} in your user page to use it.-Deepraj | Talk 16:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template/Infobox for WP Assam

Just like the other WikiProject pages I would like to see a template or infobox for articles put under the umbrella of WikiProject Assam. What do the rest of the members think? --Deepraj | Talk 13:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

A good idea. Please go ahead. Also, we need a TODO page. Chaipau 10:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shortcut for WP Assam

I have a proposition to campaign for WP:ASM to be redirect to WikiProject Assam. Please check out the talk page there.

The shortcut "[[WP:ASM]]" has been updated to redirect to WikiProject Assam.-Deepraj | Talk 08:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An Assamese Barnstar?

What about an Assamese/Oxomiya Barnstar? We must be ready to recognise good interventions and contributions to content related to Assam. Is there someone handy with graphics? I would like to propose something along the lines of "picture of a Rhino (full/head)"/"map of Assam"/"অসম" inside a regular barnstar. What do you think? -Deepraj | Talk 15:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

A good idea, indeed. We could start with something simple and upgrade it to something spiffy later on. Chaipau 19:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Hmm.. on second thought, let us call it "Assam barnstar". Chaipau 20:11, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Please check out Template:The Assam Barnstar and use it as well as improve it. If there are no adverse comments in the near future I propose to include it in the main article on our project page -Deepraj | Talk 14:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Wonderful! Yet another design concept could be the regular barnstar with the jaapi in place of the circular portion. Chaipau 16:57, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Or a gamosa draped around the barnstar. This would be tough to make, but very appropriate. Chaipau 20:06, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
It is ready with some variable functionality. Do check it out and of course use it to the fullest extent! Would like some input on text to announce this to the public ;-) -Deepraj | Talk 10:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Babel box in Assamese

The babel box(es) for Assamese ({{User as}}, {{User as-1}}, {{User as-2}}, {{User as-3}}, {{User as-4}}) needs to be translated into Assamese language with Assamese script. Any takers? My spelling and proper translation ability is a bit doubtful ;-(. Maybe Chaipau/Porikolpok/Priyankoo can pick this up? -Deepraj | Talk 17:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Assam

It is wonderful that we got this started. We have been working on most of the Assam related pages for some time now, but even so we have not been able to produce a good "Feature Status" article. The hope is that with a coordinated effort, we may be able to produce a few such articles. The first article to look at is of course Assam. Does anyone have other suggestions? Or how to get Assam to feature status? My suggestion is (1) Clean-up (2) More references and (3) Expansion of some sections. After we do this we ask for comments. Chaipau 12:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abt Assamese wikipedia

The Assamese wikipedia does not have even a single active editor. Can some of the people here consider joining the wikipedia? Thanks.--Eukesh 14:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] welcome to Assamese wikipedia

Hi,

It is a pleasure to see your efforts on english wikipedia to write about assam. can you people please contribute to assamese wikipedia which is in very early stages. please visit as.wikipedia.org and contribute. we absolutely require your help and suggestions.

Regards Sangeeta

Moved above unsigned message/comment from 'Sangeeta' from main page to this talk page -Deepraj | Talk 13:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Font size issue

Well, let us discuss the font issue here.

I have seen some people use <big></big> to increase the font size of Assamese fonts. This seems to work well on English Wikipedia, because it increases the size relatively. Using an absolute size might create a problem if different users use different default font-sizes.

As far as Assamese Wikipedia goes, I currently don't have a solution. But it looks ugly on my browser. I can live with that if others find it okay. But what if someone prefers ekushey fonts? I do. Nevertheless, the solution has to be font neutral.

Chaipau 20:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assamese people and People of Assam

Should these articles be merged? -- Hongooi 09:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

No. Not all people in Assam are Assamese. Chaipau 02:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, one reason I asked is because the first sentence in Assamese people is "The Assamese people are a multi-ethnic, multi-religious and multi-linguistic people of Assam. ..." If the article is supposed to be about the ethnic group as opposed to the population of the Indian state/region, maybe someone could have a look at it. Although going from the next few sentences ("Historically, the definition of the "Assamese people" has remained in flux ... Attempts in the past to define the Assamese people on linguistic, cultural or ethnic basis have failed") this might be tricky. -- Hongooi 06:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Assamese people is a stub. Please read some of the material linked from the article. If all the people from Assam were Assamese people, then this issue would not be contentious. People of Assam, on the other hand, describes all the people in Assam. Chaipau 11:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:People from Assam

Recently, Category:Historical People of Assam was deleted because "historical" is too vague, and merged with Category:People from Assam. This creates a few problems. First, it would result in crowding. Second, historical Assam is not present-day Assam. My suggestion is that we follow the historical eras defined in History of Assam and Timeline of Assam history and create categories specifically to these eras.

  • Pre-history - The period before proto-history. Obviously, there is no need for a category for this period.
  • People from proto-historical Assam - The mythological period, or the period for which events are mentioned in later epigraphic sources and literatures. Could include personalities like Narakasur, Bana, Bhagadatta etc.
  • People from ancient Assam - The first historic period, beginning with Pushyavarman's reign, 4th-century.
  • People from medieval Assam - The period marked by the end of the Pala dynasty of Kamarupa Kingdom and the beginning of the Khen dynasty of the Kamata kingdom.
  • People from colonial Assam - 1826-1947.
  • Category:People from Assam - 1947-present. This category will include the above categories as sub-categories.

Please list your comments and suggestions. Thanks. Chaipau 11:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions

There seems to be a lot of discrepancy in the spelling of various place names/people names/material etc related to Assam. What can be done from WikiProject Assam's perspective to promote consistency. IMHO, there are no right or wrong spelling in most cases in English/Latin character sets. However, the WP:Assam members may be able to recommend certain approaches through consensus. Otherwise there will be a question on the credibility of the articles references etc. Looking forward to other's views. -Deepraj | Talk 10:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. We can begin by delineating the rules in Wikipedia:WikiProject Assam/Naming convention. Before we do that, let us discuss some rules. I would suggest the following, as we go from top to bottom
  1. Use the specific spelling that is in use. For example, use "Baruva" instead of "Barua" for Parvati Prasad Baruva (it is redirected to Parvati Prasad Baruwa currently.)
  2. Use standard English spelling, if the above does not exist.
  3. Use phonetic spelling if standard English does not exist. (we need to build up a convention for writing phonetic names---in Assamese/Bodo etc.)
Once we have an accepted set of rules, we may transfer them to Wikipedia:WikiProject Assam/Naming convention. Chaipau 12:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] getting started

hi i'm ishan an avid wikipedian from jorhat/bangalore. how can i work on the Assam project. i've no wikipedia edit experience —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishan kaushik (talk • contribs) 11:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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