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[edit] WP Arts Template?

Is there a WikiProject Arts template for talk pages? Most WikiProjects have a template that states "This article is within the scope of WikiProject [name here], [description of WikiProject]." and adds a quality scale and importance rating, but I can't find one for this WikiProject. --Shruti14 t c s 17:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

No, a number of descendant WikiProjects have their own talk page templates with the facility for rating importance and class. These include Dance (this also includes Ballet) - see Template:Wikiproject Dance. This uses the ability to have descendant projects included in the parent (Ballet in Dance). There are a number of templates for Music and its descendant projects but these are not linked. WikiPedia:WikiProject Theatre.
There are quite a few templates - most unrelated. The template for the Australian WikiProject illustrates what can be done. Paul foord (talk) 02:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category for non-existent Performing arts project

There is a Category:WikiProject Performing arts, but no Wikipedia:WikiProject Performing arts. I guess the sub-cats & WikiProject pages should be moved up into Category:WikiProject Arts. Paul foord (talk) 05:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Textile Arts

This portal is currently undergoing its second Portal Peer Review, and your comments/feedback would be appreciated at the portal peer review subpage. Cirt (talk) 12:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Categorisation - Art WikiProjects vs WikiProject Arts

User:Stepheng3 unilaterally reparented Dance, Circus, Music, etc WikiProject categories to Category:Art WikiProjects. These naturally are parented by WikiProject Arts and thus Category:WikiProject Arts. I have asked for the rationale for the change[1]. -- Paul foord (talk) 10:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm for changing back again. Ty 11:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Seconded...Modernist (talk) 11:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. I see the "performing arts" project category, previously an intermediate step, has also been removed. Johnbod (talk) 12:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please Recognize Invention in the Arts and Visual Arts Appropriately!

Hello, Invention is extremly important in the arts, as is inventive thinking. The Invention page should be inserted in the arts project. Let's do this. Having this Invention page only in the technology project is a narrow minded view of both invention and art. Please read the Artistic Invention section on this Invention page and please look over the references provided for this Artistic Invention section. Among these references, you might take a look at the books: Picasso and the Invention of Cubism by Pepe Karmel (2003); Leonardo da Vinci: Artist, Scientist, Inventor by Simona Cremante (2005); and Patenting Art and Entertainment by Gregory Aharonian and Richard Stim, (2004), as well as the website for The Lemelson Invention and Innovation Center of the Smithsonian Institution at http://www.invention.smithsonian.org/home/. Although the term "invention" encompasses many more creative works than just those that fit the very strict governmental requirements for a patent, there are many inventions in the arts that have been patented and that are currently patent pending, some examples are listed in the references on the Invention page but many more can easily be found at the US Patent Office website: www.USPTO.gov.

As a second request, I see that the directory of Culture and the arts, Wikiprojects lists two areas of the arts, "Music" and "Literature and Writing" but it leaves out the huge category of Art, Design and Architecture which might collectively be called Visual Art. WOW, what a gaping hole!

Lets fix these problems. Thank you! --Sara USA (talk) 22:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Whereis this Directory thingy? All these topics have projects - see the portal. Johnbod (talk) 03:45, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I think this is the link to the Directory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory As I hope you can see at this link, the directory of Culture and the arts, two areas of the arts, "Music" and "Literature and Writing" but it leaves out the huge category of Art, Design and Architecture which might collectively be called Visual Art. Can this be fixed and can the Invention page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention be inserted into the arts project (see my note above)? --Sara USA (talk) 20:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes that is a very badly set-out list, as I have commented here. But the stuff is all on the subpage if you click the main header. Johnbod (talk) 00:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! It seems like that issue is getting resolved, however still no progress on the first issue in my initial note (directly above), putting the Invention page in the arts project. Please read the section on Artistic Invention (e.g., invention in art, design and architecture) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention. Can you or someone else put this Invention page in the Arts project where is should be? Invention and inventive thinking are vial to to the arts? --Sara USA (talk) 02:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

If no one comments objecting I would add it yourself after a few days. Johnbod (talk) 03:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I've added to the list of visual arts projects on this project page. Not all of them are active however. I see there are lots of omissions for music projects as well . . . --Kleinzach (talk) 15:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure where to insert the Invention page into the Arts project. Can somebody with more experience on Wikipedia make a suggestion do it please? What do you think? --Sara USA (talk) 10:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't really understand. Are you referring to categories? Reg. --Kleinzach (talk) 15:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

No this is not about categories. If you go to the Invention page and click on the tab "discussion" of the Invention article, you will see a major sign saying "This article is within the scope of the Technology WikiProject, a group related to the the study of Technology. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks." This Invention page needs to be within the scope of the Arts WikiProject too. Having it only under technology is totally narrow minded, e.g, just read the Artistic Invention section of the Invention article for proof. --Sara USA (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. We are talking about banners - but I don't think the Arts WikiProject has one, because it is an umbrella project (for coordinating the various arts projects), and doesn't do assessments. --Kleinzach (talk) 16:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This is not just about a banner!--Sara USA (talk) 18:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Then I don't understand what you are trying to say, or more to the point why you are saying it here. If you can explain I will try to help you. --Kleinzach (talk) 02:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Please read this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject The Invention Wikipedia page should be inserted under the management of the arts project. Currently it is not. Perhaps "Invention in the Arts" it should be a category in the Arts Project, as it does not fit into any the categories that presently exist. Invention is important in the arts. In contemporary art for example, success is defined by breaking into new territory. --Sara USA (talk) 14:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Abstract art and Dankany

There's an editor working under at least one account and one IP address making some major changes to the Abstract art page. He seems to have a specific issue with me (although it was actually Modernist who reverted one of his changes initially--but I got the blame!). Anyway, I won't wade into this yet as this editor may not respond well to my input, but there seems to be some major manual of style issues as well as unsourced info being added (keeping in mind that this article had problems to begin with). If anyone could drop in and have a look at his changes and maybe send him a friendly welcome, it might help. Again, I'm reluctant to do so as it may seem provocative on my part. freshacconcispeaktome 18:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Although I agree, some of the comments are beginning to look like an attack against freshacconci I'd best not step in for similar reasons, however the IP additions or the ones by Dankany are not helpful, or referenced. I'll keep the idea in mind though and if the attacks continue I will step in. This article needs expansion. Modernist (talk) 11:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I've left a message for the user. Ty 23:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Please keep conversation in one place - it's duplicated on Visual Arts talk page. I suggest continuing there, if necessary. Ty 00:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese painter Pu Ru

I created a stub about Pu Ru; I thought this was one good place to ask for improvement to the article. B7T (talk) 19:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you need a more specific project: Visual arts for example. --Kleinzach (talk) 15:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Hm, somehow I thought I had written this there instead of here; thanks! B7T (talk) 02:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main page pic deleted

I notice one of the pics on the main page was deleted last May! We might as well have more pics going further down too. Johnbod (talk) 17:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you be more specific. I don't understand the situation. Main page pics can't be fair use. Ty 02:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
There has been a blank placeholder here for a year. But I have changed it now - see the history. Johnbod (talk) 03:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAR

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[edit] Wikipedia:Vital articles

Any editor with a broad knowledge of the arts is invited to take a look at Wikipedia:Vital articles and offer suggestions on how to improve the list of 1000 vital Wikipedia articles, as well as on the process of choosing them. It suffers from a severe lack of attention and POV editing. — goethean ॐ 01:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Expert in field invitation of Art related articles

Hey all! I am inviting anyone that has free time and knowledge to have a look at this page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/GeneralxHotlist and see if they can help in any way in terms of creating an article about the Art related topics. I am not sure if it would be better if Art and Architecture be grouped as one per civilization or if they should be divided into 2 (for example Babylonian art & Babylonian Architeture) but I figure this (along with the Architecture wikiproject) would have an individual capable enough to make that decision. I am no expert in the field so yeah, otherwise I would arrange the articles myself. Any thoughts or coments are welcome and by all means, if you feel you are up for the task, be bold and give those articles a go. Cheers! Calaka (talk) 07:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)