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This article is part of WikiProject Alien, which aims to build an encyclopedic guide to the Alien science fiction franchise on Wikipedia. To participate, you can improve this article or visit the project page for more information.
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[edit] Project launch

Welcome! I'm proud to announce that after about 2 weeks of labor WikiProject Alien is now live! Hopefully soon we'll attract some members and really start making progress on improving Alien-related articles, an area of Wikipedia which has gone without serious collaborative effort for far too long. To give credit where it's due, I copied almost this entire project (along with the Alien portal) from WikiProject Star Wars (and the Star Wars portal)...but you know what they say: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. It's my hope that we can eventually rack up a number of FAs comporable to what that project has achieved. I should also give thanks to M3tal H3ad for his hard work on Alien vs. Predator (film) and Alien Resurrection. It's because of his example and dedication that I finally decided to move forward with this WikiProject/Portal idea I'd been mulling over for so long. Anyway, there's a lot of work to be done, so let's get rolling! --IllaZilla (talk) 05:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessments

I've begun placing project banners on the talk pages of all of the articles within Template:Alien and giving them quick assessments and importance levels, so we can start prioritizing tasks. Obviously each article has its own quality assessment, but here's a quick explanation of how I rated them with regard to importance to the project:

  • Top: The articles on the 8 films (4 Alien, 2 Predator, 2 AVP), the articles on the 2 main creatures (Alien & Predator), and the article on Ripley, since she's the only recurring protagonist through the Alien series. These are the core articles of the project, basically, and could be advanced to FA status.
  • High: All the articles on the comics and novels. These are the secondary form of media in the franchise and also more or less the second level of canon when it comes to story. There are several of these which could be merged into list articles, but a few which deserve their own articles and could eventually reach GA status, possibly FA.
  • Mid: All the articles on the video games. A majority of these are stubs and could be merged into list articles. Very few could be expanded with encyclopedic content, and only these deserve their own articles. Most of these could probably only be brought up to GA status at best.
  • Low: All of the "Alien and Predator universe" and "Miscellaneous" articles, as well as most of the character articles. IMHO most of these are unworthy of independent articles and are completely unencyclopedic topics that will never advance past Start or B class. The characters could be merged into list articles, but complete fancruft like Yautja language and M56 Smart Gun has no place on Wikipedia. Almost all of these should be either merged into other articles or lists, or deleted.

Once I'm finished tagging, assessing, and categorizing, I'll start listing some of these projects on the "things to do" page. --IllaZilla (talk) 20:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] scores

hi just telling you that im in the process of creating the Goldsmith score for the first film now, i made Goldenthals (alien 3) a while ago because i focus mainly on his stuff (im a massive fan) then i noticed that you were doing alien related stuff and i LOVE alien and Jerry Goldsmiths score for the first film aswell so ive just created a page for Horners Aliens and now im going on to do the first one, someone else had already created Resurretion. Terrasidius (talk) 01:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Those look very well-done. I'll add them to the project and see about linking them to other articles. It might take me a while, though. --IllaZilla (talk) 01:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do I add my name?

I don't know how to add it to the participants list. I would be doing typo stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yojimbo501 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Alien/Participants and add your username in alphabetical order to the list. If you need further assistance just contact me on my "talk" page. --Tj999 (talk) 16:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I took the liberty of adding you to the list. It doesn't have to be in alphabetical order, it can just be in the order joined. That makes it easiest for new members to add themselves, since they just have to add themselves to the end of the list. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Ill probably do typo and error stuff, as well as trying to stop vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yojimbo501 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comics

Could we standardise the comic articles so instead of having articles about individual comic books, have more inclusive articles like "Aliens crossovers", where all the Aliens VS something comics could be described? The AVP comics should have their own article though, I'm referring more to the numerous superhero crossovers. Funkynusayri (talk) 03:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking we could merge all the comic article into a list article like "List of Alien and Predator comics". This would take out the cover images, since they can't be used in list articles, but all we have in each article now (that I've seen) is publishing details & a plot description. Since there's no sourced critical commentary in any of them (ie. no secondary sources) they should all be in one list article. That's what I'm working on for the video games with List of Alien and Predator games. If in the future some secondary sources are found to provide critical commentary, then the title in question could be forked off into an independent article. All the details & plot summary would still be there, and the cover images aren't hard to find. I just don't see a rationale for having independent articles on comics with no critical commentary. List articles are usually exempt from the "article length" issues, so even if it was a very long article it wouldn't be a problem. --IllaZilla (talk) 04:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] question

Is this wikiproject only for the Alien and AvP series, or is this also for the Predator series. --Gman124 talk 15:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It covers Predator as well, because the 2 are so closely related. There is no project devoted to Predator, so this project is kind of meant to cover both, even though it's called WikiProject Alien. But yeah, we've kind of taken the Predator articles into our scope as well. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)