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Source for Needed Articles

List of Registered Historic Places in Alabama has links to every county in the state it seems. Within those county pages their are many red links. It's a great place to find needed articles. JBEvans 22:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. Also, check out List of National Historic Landmarks in Alabama, an article in progress that seeks to list, describe, and link to a separate article on each National Historic Landmark in AL. Each NHL is automatically listed on the NRHP; there are many more NRHPs that are not also NHLs. The NHLs could use help with editing and with photographs! doncram 01:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Templates Added

I created two templates -- first ones I've ever done -- which I hope are helpful. I need your critical assessment of them. No pride here! JBEvans 03:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks good so far. I noticed a red-link for {{User WikiProject Alabama}}; should {{AlProUB}} be moved here or are these supposed to be separate templates? - auburnpilot talk 06:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I tested automatically including a signature withing {{AlProInv}}. It works only when substituted, so I went ahead and reverted. It's a possibility though. - auburnpilot talk 06:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Supposedly, the two are separate and stand alone. I'm not sure about including the signature nor the link. I'll take a look. I have an idea but it will be a little later before I can do anything. JBEvans 12:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed we now have 3 userboxes ({{User WikiProject Alabama}}, {{AlProUB}}, and {{User WPAlabama}}), which seems a little excessive. Anyone opposed to simply removing the first and replacing it with one the the other two boxes? Personally, the first one seems a little odd anyway. - auburnpilot talk 17:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
No objection. I went with {{User WPAlabama}}, but either one would do. --Lkseitz 15:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
No objection from me - not sure which one I used but I will change it if needed. JodyB 17:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I've deleted {{User WikiProject Alabama}} and replaced it with {{User WPAlabama}}. - auburnpilot talk 19:42, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Added myself

I added myself to the members list and am happy to help out where needed. Originally from the Birmingham area and now attending Auburn University, I can assist in related topis as well as provide images of the Birmingham area. Same goes for images in the Lee County area, but I can also provide an aerial shots that might be needed. Just let me know. - auburnpilot talk 06:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Glad to have you! I'm originally from Tuscaloosa and am also a pilot. I spent some time many years ago flying out of Auburn-Opelika. JBEvans 12:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi auburnpilot! I could sure use your help for some Auburn pics. I created the Auburn Tigers basketball article and would really like to get some images of Beard-Eaves-Memorial Coliseum (inside or out) and anything else you might be able to get concerning Auburn Basketball. Thanks, Вasil | talk 01:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I went by there today and took a few from the outside. The place was locked (maybe due to Easter Sunday) but I will try to get inside sometime in the next few weeks. I'll have the images uploaded to my commons account sometime tonight and post a link here. - auburnpilot talk 21:18, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Introduction

  • Most of my contributions are now going to my BhamWiki.com site, but any useful material from there is available to Wikipedia under the CC-by-sa 3.0 license. A lot of it is rather below the threshold of notability for a general encyclopedia, which is why I decided to start up an alternative. I hang around here mostly to keep an eye on vandalism and to get into pointless arguments. --Dystopos 19:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Glad to have you. Any expertise is certainly welcomed. JBEvans 16:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Article Assessment

  • From what I see most of the other state-level projects are active in assessing their articles for both quality and importance. It seems this is an important task of any project. I'm not sure how to get it started. The California project is pretty involved and intense. If someone is able to look at it and get us started that would be great! JBEvans 16:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I see a few have been tagged and assessed. I've tagged a few, but I'm considering loading the categories into WP:AWB and going on a mass talk page-template-tagging-spree. Once they're tagged, we'll be able to ID the articles needing our attention by simply going through Category:Unassessed Alabama articles. Seems it will make things easier, but figured I get a few comments first. - auburnpilot talk 05:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I've added the the unassessed category and quite a few ancillary categories to support our article assessments. When I set it up, I did not add support for 'importance' as I observed several notable projects which omitted that parameter due to ambiguity and conflicting assessments (e.g. Military History. I'm not dead-set against it, but it does seem to increase the level of subjectivity. I'm not sure what exactly the AWB project does, but if it will automatically tag Alabama related articles, I'm all for it. As it stands right now, we've already got 186 unassessed articles (see unassessed). Вasil | talk 06:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm not too worried about the importance indicator. It always seemed trivial to me, but I'm not really set either way. As far as AWB, it's great for making extremely repetitive edits, like tagging talk pages with project templates. I took the categories listed on the main project page, loaded them into AWB, and it gave me a list of ~700 articles. I'm then able to convert them to talk pages and automatically add {{WikiProject Alabama}} to the top of each page. Saves time and makes tagging hundreds of articles as simple as clicking "save". I'm free all day Monday, so I'll try to hit the list then. - auburnpilot talk 20:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and made a test run, as you can see by my contributions. I was able to tag just over 180 articles in about half an hour, and I see JBEvans is doing the same. - auburnpilot talk 22:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I hit the mother lode when I went to the category People in Alabama. There were almost 500 articles that were untagged. They have tags now. AWB is great for such. BTW, JodyB used to be JBEvans. JodyB is my preferred moniker now. JBEvans 22:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Now JodyB used to be JBEVANS! How stupid can I be?JodyB 22:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, at least I'm not crazy. I knew there was a JBEvans, but suddenly JodyB was talking... - auburnpilot talk 23:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I noticed a couple pages were tagged {{WikiProject Alabama|class=}}. For some reason, having "|class=" in the template is placing the talk pages in Category:Non-article Alabama pages instead of Category:Unassessed Alabama articles. I'm not sure if this can be fixed (as a template issue), but for the time being I'm removed "|class=" from the talk pages with this problem. - auburnpilot talk 23:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. I added a case statement to check for an empty class string. Pages which contain "class=" now are categorized as "unassessed". Вasil | talk 14:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I've gone through and marked all the Category:Talk pages as class=NA, at least those in the Unassessed category so far.JodyB 20:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Talk:William H. Hardy

I noticed a user removed the project tag from this article, stating that it shouldn't be covered because Hardy's notability doesn't stem from Alabama. I'm tempted to re-add the tag, as I see this as a similar situation as Condoleezza Rice. Rice is not notable for being from Alabama, but she is a notable person who would be covered by this project as a notable person from Birmingham. Any thoughts? - auburnpilot talk 22:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I would have left the tag for the same reason you mentioned. Otherwise we loose a lot of people who were raised here but didn't make their mark until they moved. I see our goal as being particularly interested in the Alabama portion of the biography. It should stay. JodyB 22:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I've re-added the tag. Turns out the "user" I was referring to is somebody with whom I've had extensive contact, and will likely be a beneficial person to this project. Hopefully Blaxthos will chip in. - auburnpilot talk 02:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I concur. If we exclude people who've left Alabama that would put a pretty serious dent in this project. Вasil | talk 05:39, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
  • In cases where the Alabama portion of the biography is minimal (folks who moved away as children, for example) I don't see any point in making them part of the article-improvement project. Secretary Rice is a good counterexample because she frequently refers to her childhood in Birmingham when discussing the evolution of her views on justice. --Dystopos 15:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Photographs, historical and current

As you all should know, ALL photos and images are to be uploaded in the Wikimedia Commons and not in Wikipedia. In that train of thought, I have created identical Alabama city names for the two that I have contributed to: Lineville and Ashland for current and historical photos. Also and I don't know where to put them other than Historical (on your main page) are photos of Military Units in France, England and Korea, during both wars; whose company members were from Alabama and Georgia. The article pages of gallery photos are not labelled as Alabama men but nonetheless, with further research I can add that information to individual photos. Should or could these Commons links be put on your site here, or should there be a See Also link at the end of the page?? WayneRay 18:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)WayneRay

I'm really not sure what you're asking. - auburnpilot talk 17:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Commons sample pages

sample one sample two

Ok the men in these military units are from Alabama, so since it is not really an alabama article is it ok to add the link in the Historical Alabama section on the main page. That's what I thought I was asking. WayneRay 00:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)WayneRay

You mean to add the link to the photos to the WikiProject Alabama main page right? If that's the case I see no problem. Of course that page is subject to alot of work as we are still kind of feeling our way around some on this project. JodyB 11:57, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Main project page

I hope no one minds, but I tweaked the main project page a bit to make it more useful. I removed the line about adding articles to the articles page since it seems no one really did it, including me. I also worked a bit on the Collaboration section and moved it to its own main heading. I also removed the empty section on Alabama former FA's and delisted GA's. These can be added back when needed. I think there's probably much more that needs to be done to the main page. Any thought's? JodyB 15:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Another introduction

I'm Lee K. Seitz, another of Dystopos' BhamWiki minions. Since a few of the articles I've created or significantly tweaked have been tagged for this project, I thought I should join. But like Dystopos, most of my efforts are concentrated at BhamWiki rather than Wikipedia. --Lkseitz 16:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcome Lee! We appreciate any help you can offer us. JodyB 11:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Main Page Clean up

What do you folks think about deleting section 4.4-4.5 on the main page. These are a sections to list unassessed articles and schools. I don't think they are serving much purpose. JodyB 17:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Delete away! We need to spruce up the main page anyway. Вasil | talk 18:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Feel free to remove it. Listing all the articles/schools would be too involved, and it's a bit redundant of our unassessed article category anyway. - auburnpilot talk 05:42, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I was BOLD! Well, maybe not too much. Tell me what you think. There are many templates when you add in sports and cities and such. Maybe they should be in their own page? JodyB 03:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Definitely better. My only thought was whether or not to keep the separate categories for Good and Featured articles. Once we begin the collaboration/improvement effort and start increasing the number of GA/FAs it might be good to re-add them. I played around with different options and having collapsed categories might be one way. You can see it in my sandbox here. No real need for them now, and collapsed sections create quite a bit of code clutter.
Having a central location for all the Alabama related templates would be great. There are a few in Category:Alabama government navigational boxes, but once we get all the stub, city, and other templates, I think you may be right; a separate page will probably be required. - auburnpilot talk 05:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
The collapsible categories are an idea that I had not thought of. It's cool and I agree that it will be useful. When I look at some of the other projects that have been around for a while I see alot of articles so your right about adding them in. Also, I didn't know about the Category:Alabama government navigational boxes. There are some more that need to be added there and then a link would be all that's needed. I'm trying to work through the +1,000 unassessed articles now and get them into stub/start/B categories. It's pretty straight forward but time consuming. Kingbotk's plugin for AWB is helpful. JodyB 11:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

{{WikiProject Alabama}}

If you look at the template page, and the pages on which it is transcluded, there is a stray dash/hyphen in the top left hand corner of each page. I've looked through the code, but can't seem to figure out where it's coming from. Any ideas? - auburnpilot talk 22:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Removing each "-" one by one, it seems to be the very last one just before the line {{#if:{{{reqphoto|}}}. I didn't remove it (as I'm not familiar with the coding of these things) but I'm fairly sure that's the one causing the issue. - auburnpilot talk 22:19, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll take a look. I did that part of the coding. I'll reply back here when done. JodyB 13:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok, it's fixed. auburnpilot talk, you were correct. I have removed the extraneous dash and tested it. If we see it again, please let me know. Basil please double check me on this. JodyB 13:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Looks good, Jody. Nice job! Вasil | talk 13:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I went back and revisited the template. I had found that it would not properly transclude when the reqphoto parameter was set. It seems that the dash was needed. The problem was the "pipe" needed to come first. I have tested in my sandbox and then tested it "in the wild" and it seems to correctly handle reqphoto now and does not leave stray code on the page. If there is any other problem seen, please let me know. JodyB 20:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Broken template?

From Talk:Mobile, Alabama:

This article lacks sufficient is important.

I'm not sure what that sentence is even trying to convey.  :-) /Blaxthos 16:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

The template doesn't support the importance tag per consensus. It should simply ignore the parameter when someone tries to insert it. I'll take a look. In the meantime I have fixed that particular occurance. JodyB talk 16:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
If deemed necessary, we can add an importance parameter. Вasil | talk 16:54, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't really matter to me. I know you guys talked about it up page and I'm fine either way. JodyB talk 17:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Categories

We might be aware that there are many Alabama articles that are not fully categorized. For example, there are only 56 articles reflected in the Category:History of Alabama. As we edit we might want to figure out where things can best be placed. JodyB talk 11:29, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Old Mobile Site

I have recently conducted a major expansion of the Old Mobile Site article. I feel the current article is well-researched and can quickly become a candidate for good article status. I am planning to submit the article for peer review. I would also like to receive input from the fellow WikiProject Alabama members. If anyone wants to help in pushing this article to the next level, please join in with comments or edits. Leeannedy 22:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Tagging articles

I'd like to suggest we ask SatyrTN to have his SatyrBot tag all articles in Category:Alabama and its subcategories with the project tag. What do you all think? Aleta 17:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

We can never have too much help. Go for it! Вasil | talk 17:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
(ec)Welcome! That works for me. We've done a great deal of them already, but that would certainly speed up the process. I'd completely forgotten about SatyrBot. - auburnpilot talk 17:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Great, I'll drop Satyr a line to ask him about it. Aleta 18:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
You mean there's a bot to do this? JodyB talk 19:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Yep! :)
I prefer not to let the bot run through sub-categories, since it *could* run into categories that shouldn't be tagged. If you could, would you come up with a list of categories? Each one should be at least mostly Alabama articles so the bot isn't over-tagging. Examples of such a list would be WikiProject Basque's list or WikiProject Chicago's list. Special:CategoryTree is a great help for developing such a list.
Let me know if you have any questions or if I can help with anything else. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah, ok. I'll start compiling a list. Aleta 21:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Category list

OK, the preliminary list of categories I've found is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama/Categories, starting with Category:Alabama and working my way through all subcategories listed, with the exception of the railroad subcategories - which I began listing, but was realizing that many being included would not be relevant. I have not gone though to figure out which are or are not. Other than that, all subcategories are listed. I think we'll the vast majority should be used for tagging. A very few probably should not, (e.g. Jimmy Buffett songs and albums). We can remove those to create a list suitable for Satyrbot's use in tagging. Comments??? Aleta 01:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I somehow missed the above comment until today, but the list looks fairly comprehensive to me. If the bot hasn't already started, this looks like a good list for it to cover. - auburnpilot talk 22:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for responding! I'll post to Satyr about it. Aleta 03:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I went and commented out the questionable categories: all the railroad ones I had done before abandoning them for the time being, Jimmy Buffett albums and JB songs (but I left Cat:JB), and most of the Hurricane Katrina cats (figuring that a large proportion of the articles may not be in our purview and we need to hand-pick the ones that are for the project, but I did leave International response to Katrina, thinking that all those prob. do fall in our purview). Anyway, I've posted to Satyr that the list is there, and asked if this looks useable to him. Aleta 04:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good. Any idea how many articles we're talking about? JodyB talk 11:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know. To find out, I started numbering the list, and there are 142 starting with letters A through D, 7 in I&J, and 10 in V through Z. I don't have time to finish that now - anyone who wants to work on it is welcome to do so! Aleta 12:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I used a text editor to make a simple substitution to number the rest. If I did the math right, there's 367. --Lkseitz 13:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Kudos, everyone! Excellent work! Вasil | talk 13:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Tagging Articles (redux)

Okay, so SatyrBot has finished the project it was running. If everything is set to go, I'd like to start running WP:ALA articles starting Saturday night.

The bot runs at 1:00AM eastern time. It'll run 50-75 categories at a time. I'd like it if someone / several people would watchlist User:SatyrBot/Current project, since that's where edit summaries point. That way, if any editor has questions, someone from the project can "be on hand" to answer any questions. And I've watchlisted this project page if any of you have any questions :) Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick work SatyrTN. I'm not sure about the rest of the group, but I know I will not be available to keep an eye on things Sat @ 1AM. City Stages is this weekend, and I intend to be there as much as possible. - auburnpilot talk 02:25, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
ROTFL! Being available at 1:00 isn't necessary :) Just watchlisting the page so if any questions arise (usually along the lines of "why is this page/category being tagged?"), someone from the project will be able to answer. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:45, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks SatyrTN and AuburnPilot! I'll watch the page as well. Вasil | talk 19:12, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of tags... After a scintillating couple of hours adding defaultsort tags and some related categories to 100 pages of Alabama politician stub pages (out of a possible 148) it's clear that a lot of basic structural work (categories, infoboxes, birth/death dates, and such) remains to be done. I've not yet signed up for any WikiProjects but as a Huntsville native I feel obligated to sign on here and see how much I can contribute. - Dravecky 11:07, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Bot check

The bot's made three runs, totaling 150 categories, adding 1,153 banners. Just checking to see if anyone's noticed any errors or things that might need fixing? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I haven't heard of any problems. We sure appreciate your work. Of course, now, we've got +1400 articles that need assessing! JodyB talk 19:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure but I think I remember Talk:Fred Thompson once before having the Alabama banner but someone removed it manually. I think Thompson's only connection was that he was born there but his family soon moved to Tennessee. Sbowers3 10:42, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
After finding Category:People from Columbus, Georgia somehow slipped through, I reviewed the cats again and commented out four related to the Tennessee River. Not all of the pages within these cats are Alabama related and will need to be selectively tagged. Everything else looks good. - auburnpilot talk 05:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that. I don't know how I got the people from Columbus, GA cat!? Aleta 21:33, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Your bot just tagged Fort Loudoun Dam and Tellico Dam, neither of which is anywhere near Alabama. Those are just the two I know about because they're on my watch list. Might want to rein this bot in a bit until it's debugged. Scott Johnson 13:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
I just went through the TVA cat and removed from the project any articles still tagged with the AL project that aren't in AL, if they hadn't already had the tag removed (and assessed those in AL). I'll start looking at the Tenn River cat next. (Looks like that cat was commented out before tagging - yay!) Aleta 16:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
I did the same with the Tenn-Tom Waterway cat.Aleta 19:31, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Your Bot seems to keep tagging the Richard Marcinko article. Dick has no direct or indirect connection to Alabama, I don't understand why it keeps getting tagged. Mike Searson 14:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
This article is being tagged because Marcinko is included within Category:Auburn University alumni. Auburn University is a university in Auburn, Alabama. - auburnpilot talk 16:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed that the bot is tagging some Civil War battles that are only indirectly related to Alabama. For example, Battle of Murfreesboro III, Battle of Nashville, and Battle of Spring Hill are battles that were fought in Tennessee (not Alabama). I have not checked the categories to determine why the bot is tagging these articles, but I suspect it is due to the fact that these battles were part of the Franklin-Nashville Campaign which also had battles in Alabama. In my opinion, WikiProject Alabama should cover the main article (Franklin-Nashville Campaign) and the battles which occurred in Alabama. I will remove the tags (WP Alabama) but the bot will tag them again in the nightly runs. Does any one else have an opinion on this issue? Leeannedy 09:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I also am continuing to encounter situations where the bot tags articles that are only remotely (at best) related to Alabama. I think I have removed the project template from Van Hilleary (a former Tennessee congressman who attended law school in Alabama) three times now. Alumni of Alabama universities who have no other association with the state do not belong in the Alabama project, IMHO. --orlady 15:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Also, I've removed some Alabama tags from Hurricane Katrina-related articles. The fact that the hurricane affected Alabama does not make every Katrina-related article (example: Singaporean response to Hurricane Katrina) an Alabama article.--orlady 15:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC) Follow-up: I once again manually removed Alabama tags from the Tennessee Civil War battles noted by Leannedy, and also from Talk:Mississippi Public Broadcasting.--orlady 15:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I've removed Category:International response to Hurricane Katrina which was mistakenly added to the list. You are correct that these articles should not be tagged. However, please do not remove banners from people who are clearly related to Alabama, such as alumni of major universities. - auburnpilot talk 16:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I tend to agree that attending school in Alabama is a rather tenuous connection to the state. Perhaps some guidelines that explain where the template should and should not be applied are in order. What is the purpose in "claiming" these tangential topics as part of the project? --Dystopos 16:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, AuburnPilot. :-) Some of the articles in Category:International response to Hurricane Katrina do belong in the Alabama Wikiproject, but they are already tagged, so the bot need not revisit the category. The problem I see is that the bot is continuing to re-tag articles that have been manually un-tagged by humans who made a judgment that the articles did not belong in this WikiProject. I do not share your view that (for example) a politician from another state (born there, grew up there, mostly educated there, ran for office there, got elected there, continues to live there) who got his law degree at Samford University needs to be considered part of the Alabama Wikiproject. You'll be more effective if you focus on articles with a strong Alabama nexus. --orlady 16:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
As far as only being educated in Alabama, that likely isn't enough...I must agree. I've already removed several categories from the list. We'll see how things go from here. - auburnpilot talk 16:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

New Articles

Is there a reason to list new articles we create within the scope to make sure everything is OK? I'm new but I have been adding stuff in my home area. For example: Cherokee High School (Alabama), Key Underwood Coon Dog Memorial Graveyard, Ivy Green, Barton Hall, and Northwest Shoals Community College. I plan on sprucing them up with pictures when I move back near home on September 1. Mark @ DailyNetworks talk 22:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mark, we're glad to have you around. No, I don't think they need to be listed. That statement is a vestige from when the page was created and I don't think anyone has been using it. If you will make sure that the project banner is on the discussion page, it will be dropped into the appropriate category within the project. When you add that banner, you can add a parameter specifying if its a stub, start or B class article. For example, {{WikiProject Alabama|class=stub}} will categorize it as a stub. Thanks for your help! JodyB talk 14:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Assessing articles

Now that Satyrbot has done so much to help tag articles for the project, we have a growing problem. We have over 2000 articles that need to be assessed. Assessment is important because it will help us move articles along the path to GA and FA status. And that brings up another question. Are we about ready to begin peer reviews and collaborations within the project? Any help on assessing would be appreciated as would any suggestions about reviews and collaborations! JodyB talk 14:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to make a dent in the assessments. One problem though is we have quite a number of lists, and when I assess the class as list, it remains in the list of unassessed articles (even though the template supports a list class). We need a separate grouping for list-class "articles". Does someone here know how to do this? Aleta 23:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think I've created it - Category:List-Class_Alabama_articles should fill up if you add some lists. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Great! Aleta 01:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I've been doing some work on the assessments (now feel like I may go blind), at this moment all unassessed articles from A to R are done, which only leaves 592 left to do. Altairisfartalk 07:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD for Free The Hops

I have moved to have this article deleted, and invite comments on the AfD from WikiProject Alabama members. Y'all are in a good position to judge the notability of the topic. Also see Talk:Free The Hops. -- Rob C (Alarob) 16:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Bot Done

The bot has finished running through the category list and adding your project banner. By my count, there are now 4,103 articles.

The next step, of course, is maintenance. One of the benefits of having all your articles tagged is that the bot can make periodic reviews of the articles and let you know where there are ones in need of improvement. The bot currently does this for three or four projects. It produces two lists - for an example, let's look at WP:CM. The two pages it produces are a long list of all articles needing cleanup, wikification, sources, whatever - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/To-do list; and a short list, which is a random subset of the long list suitable for including in a "To-Do" template - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Small to-do list and to see how we use the short list in a "to do" template, see WT:LGBT. Pages that may be up for deletion will show up on both.

Another part of maintenance is to review the categories for new articles that have been added to the cats, but don't yet have banners. The LGBT WikiProject does a periodic run and produces a report - see WP:LGBT/NP. WP:Chicago does the run and automatically adds the banner. The bot is set up to run either way.

Let me know if you'd like either of these options set up, or if the bot has made any serious errors in it's tagging. Thanks much!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:28, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks like everything went smoothly, for the most part. Thanks for the quick work. I think the last option you described above would be great. If we could get a setup similar to WP:Chicago so that the bot periodically runs through the cats, identifies new articles, and tags them with the banner, we'd have a great way to keep up with new articles that will be within our scope. Is there anything that needs to be done on our end? - auburnpilot talk 00:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm all for it. Otherwise we will quickly loose control of our assessments. If he will place the banners then it will show up as unassessed and we can take it from there. JodyB talk 15:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Anyone have any thoughts on this, or should I ask SatyrTN to go ahead with routine bot runs? - auburnpilot talk 15:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm all for it! Aleta 16:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I left a note on SatyrTN's talk page a few days ago. No response so far, and the bot doesn't appear to have made any WP:ALA edits, so I guess we'll just wait and see what happens. - auburnpilot talk 04:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry - I'm a doofus. I've added this project to the nightly run, so it will run tomorrow night about midnight eastern. It should create Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama/To do list full and Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama/To do list short. It should also add the project banner to any pages newly listed in these categories. Sorry to take so long to get back to you! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 06:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, SatyrTN. We'll keep an eye out for any problems. - auburnpilot talk 16:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Once again, the 'Bot has tagged Van Hilleary, the Tennessee politician whose only connection to Alabama is law school at Samford University. I've manually untagged the article 4 times now. I also untagged Upper Chattahoochee Riverkeeper (that part of the river is not in Alabama); this was the second manual untagging.--orlady 13:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Van Hilleary is being tagged because he is incorrectly placed in Category:Samford University people, which is for "students, faculty, and other staff of the university"; not alumni. A category should probably be created for Category:Samford University alumni, as all alumni cats have been removed from the list. Upper Chattahoochee Riverkeeper is being tagged because it is in Category:Rivers of Alabama. If it's not in Alabama, remove the cat and it will not be tagged again. Thanks, - auburnpilot talk 13:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ted Radcliffe FAR notice

Ted Radcliffe has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 20:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Kinnucan's nominated for speedy deletion

I have nominated Kinnucan's for speedy deletion as blatant advertising/ spam. If anyone wants to cut out the crap and turn this into a stub, do so soon. (Right now, it is filled with personal "I" statements from the founder!) Aleta 01:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Pretty awful article. I trimmed back to very stubby stub. Maybe someone else can do more. It's almost certainly non-notable. JodyB talk 04:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
At least it's not a pure advertisement now! I did a little more wikifying/ cleaning-up, but nothing terribly substantive. Aleta 04:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded a better version of the logo, and slightly updated the infobox. It might not meet notability requirements, but it's better than it was. I'll try to flesh it out a little bit in the coming days. So, does this count as our first collaboration? ;-) - auburnpilot talk 04:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

One other question: Am I going crazy, or was the page created by an anonymous user? I was under the impression only registered users could create articles. - auburnpilot talk 04:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It is being vandalized by a single person repeatedly. I put a warning 4 on the user's page today. It looks like a blatant edit war but I don't know what to do. --Mark @ DailyNetworks talk 10:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

DeSoto State Park

Just to generate some discussion, please review the DeSoto State Park article. Seems a shame that not all State Parks have an article. Over the past year or so, I started stubs for the ones in North Alabama that I am somewhat familar with. Many people have improved them since.

Note that I followed the spelling DeSoto, not Desoto (per existing redlinks) or de Soto (per original name). DeSoto seems consistent with the Alabama State Park home page.

Any comments or article improvements are welcome. Wendell 00:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Wendell. I'll have a look. I appreciate your work. JodyB yak, yak, yak 00:33, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Is Alabama ready for GA?

I'd like to ask everyone to take a critical look at the Alabama article and discuss what needs to be done to take it to GA status. There is a section on the discussion page where it failed once before. Maybe we can collaborate and get this one up to standards. JodyB yak, yak, yak 16:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Alabama should definitely be our first collaboration, considering we are WikiProject Alabama. I looked over the article in comparison to the only two GA states I could find, Rhode Island and Illinois. It seems the only thing really holding back Alabama is the lack of citations, which is also the major difference between Alabama and FA Minnesota. If we can add some citations, it should be fine. The overall length looks good, as do the individual sections. Also, it seems a bit cluttered, but maybe that's just me. I'd remove the image of Hurricane Ivan and try to space out a few of the other images. Thoughts? - auburnpilot talk 15:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I did a bit of rearranging [1] to address the cluttered look. - auburnpilot talk 15:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Wouldn't the section Miscellaneous topics be almost considered a triva section that needs cleaning? Mark @ DailyNetworks talk 16:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I am definitely in agreement that the Alabama article should be the first collaboration. In my opinion, it is also an excellent opportunity to encourage work on subarticles and generate interest in the project in general. However, I believe that much more is holding the Alabama article back from good article status other than citations. Almost every section requires significant work. I would suggest we set up a to do list for the article. I have started working on a to do list (currently only an offline file) and would be happy to list my ideas for discussion. This is the flagship article of the project. A hurried attempt at GA is not as important as a meaningful collaboration that builds a high-quality article. Leeannedy 17:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I just finished skimming through all fifty of the state articles. It was interesting in several ways. First, it was somewhat disappointing that approximately 30 percent of the articles are poor or very poor (usually due to excessive lists or tables or articles that appear to have a total of 1,000 sentences with each written by a different author). The good news is that if we want to put in the effort we can definitely reach good article status or even featured article. We must simply follow good guidelines and work toward our goal. I would estimate that the article is currently in the top third of the state articles. In other words, we aren't a couple of grammar checks away from good article. We are a major rewrite away. But I am optimistic. In the process of "reading" the fifty articles, I formulated an outline of my vision for the article. I would like to post it to generate discussion. We can then come to a consensus vision and determine what parts of the existing article can be worked in and where a complete overhaul is in order. The effort will be significant but I think we can reach the level we want. Leeannedy 22:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The outline and ideas I wish to propose are complete. I will be posting the outline to the talk space of the Alabama article in a few minutes. Please leave your comments there. My goal is for the Alabama article to be a featured article by the end of the year. Leeannedy 17:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Great work everyone. We do need to look at the misc. section and I am looking forward to Leeannedy's outline. JodyB yak, yak, yak 18:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Leeannedy's vision is a great blueprint for article improvement. I will try to pitch in by making some (most likely modest) contributions over the next few months. Majoreditor 02:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Category for Mobile

Can there be a category for Mobile, Alabama? I see one for Birmingham and for Montgomery, but not for Mobile. Forgive me for asking here, but I'm not to sure how to create one. If someone could show me, then I won't ask again. --Mnemnoch 05:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to the project, Mnemnoch. I think the cat you're looking for is Category:Mobile, Alabama, which already exists. If it didn't, all you'd have to do is go the the red linked category and either place another category on the page, or a hidden comment. In this case, you could add Category:Cities in Alabama to such a red-linked page in order to create the category. - auburnpilot talk 05:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I wanted to add this to the WP:ALA page since it has the larger cities already listed. --Mnemnoch 06:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

National Register of Historical Places

Would it benefit the articles to move away from "Start class" articles if places that were on the National Historic Register were added to their retrospective cities? Just an idea.--Mnemnoch 23:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you explain your ideas in a little more detail? In my opinion, it is valuable when significant National Register locations are mentioned in the appropriate city and/or county articles. Naturally, the details should not reach an excessive level as that is the purpose of the main article on the historical place. One thing to watch out for is the introduction of excessively long lists in the articles (for example, a list of all the National Register places in a given city may be excessive for larger cities). The appropriate location for the list is the existing articles on the National Register locations in the state. If you are wanting to immediately participate in a collaboration, come and join the efforts on the Alabama article. Leeannedy 12:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Leeannedy, that's one of the things that I thought about (The size of what could be listed). I'll try and keep my explaination local to where I am so that I'm not speculating. I know that Baldwin County has several, possibly, hundreds of places that would be on the National Register. What has to be discussed for this idea is the importance of the Historic place to the city itself. As an example, Fairhope has the Marietta Johnson School for Organic Education. The location could be seen as one of the places that shaped the city. Another location is the Bank of Fairhope, also known as the Fairhope Press Register building. In contrast, the Beckner House, also known as the Baker House, is a place that may have Historic relevance, however it does hold a capacity of how it has shaped the city. I know my idea is somewhat radical, but I'd like to have more input. Again, my original purpose is to expand the "start class" articles in Alabama where I can help further them along. --Mnemnoch 00:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I count about 55 National Register sites in all of Baldwin County. Most are red-links, but there are maybe 5 articles created. (See List of Registered Historic Places in Alabama, and click on Baldwin County.) I think it does help articles on towns and other locations to link to the NRHP sites located in them or nearby, which will usually be 1 or 2 or a few. Certainly any NRHP site that also is a National Historic Landmark oughta be mentioned. See List of National Historic Landmarks in Alabama for those. Indeed, it would help if you could go through that list of NHLs and do exactly that, stitch mentions to them into the appropriate town and other location articles. doncram 02:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
My thought is that it should be used rather sparingly and only when that location is significant to the main article. I would concur about the Organic school and Fairhope but generally I would use very conservative judgment in making those additions. JodyB yak, yak, yak 01:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't mean to come across as argumentative, but a point to consider is that many people, locals included, don't know what is the historical significance of most NRHP sites. So, a judgment beforehand that a site is not significant enough to merit mention in a town article, is kind of cutting short the discussion. I think it's better to provide a link to every one, making it a very brief mention if the NRHP article is itself not well developed. But even red-links are helpful. Maybe a local who sees the red-link will know about the NRHP and will be inspired to create the article. Other locals and us all will benefit. My two cents. :) doncram 02:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Dothan High School

I have been trying to write an article for Dothan High School, located in Dothan, AL. I spend time here and there updating the article, but I do not have the time to donate to keeping this article free of vandalism, and i am turning to this article for help. This article on Dothan High gets vandalized weekly. I am looking for anyone to help monitor the Dothan High School article, and add any substanceto the article that they can. I call on onyone who graduated from DHS, or just wants to help write a new page for help. Thank you.

I'll watchlist it and help watch for the vandals. Please continue to write and add to it. BTW, Have you considered registering for an account? JodyB yak, yak, yak 02:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Burnt Corn, Alabama -- still a stub?

I've expanded the article on this little town which has a lot of fans. Would appreciate someone stopping by to assess whether the article's at least made it to Start-class. Thanks! -- Rob C. alias Alarob 18:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone has upgraded it to start. Thanks for the work! --JodyB yak, yak, yak 15:10, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Ah, that would be me. Thanks for confirming that it had moved past stub class. - Dravecky 03:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Hiding TOC

19-Aug-2007: I've noticed, this weekend, the Table-of-Contents (TOC) "[hide]" option has been fixed to allow shrinking/hiding the TOC detail lines. This change will require reformatting thousands of articles to auto-reformat image/text placement, but we knew this day would come, and so it has. I have begun editing articles, with explanation "Allow HIDDEN Table of Contents.." noting, for each article, the changes to allow Hide/Show TOC. An easy fix is to stack the earlier right-side images/tables (as a series of "Image:" and table definitions) near the top of the article, depending on top paragraphs to provide filler text. The text-clipping glitch might also have been fixed for small-then-large image stacking; otherwise, make images similar size or put smaller images after large. Images later in the article should auto-reformat fine, as is, without moving them. -Wikid77 21:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Orange Beach, Alabama

I'm wondering about the article in question and if anyone else wants the privilage of striking or verifying some of the information on the page, I would appreciate it. Otherwise, I'm setting a one week period before I strike material and start requiring sources. If anyone else thinks this is a bad idea, please let me know. --Mnemnoch 02:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Am I smoking, or shouldn't we have a head supreme court justice (not hugo black)? Didn't Oscar winner Tallulah Bankhead or her Senator father go to UA? I believe one of us invented Dr. Pepper for God's sake. We're missing a bunch of people. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.167.207.2 (talk) 06:39, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

What? --Mnemnoch 01:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

New Project Members

I've just finished issuing invitations to about 50 editors to join the Alabama project. Please welcome them and help them to get to work. There is plenty to do!--JodyB yak, yak, yak 15:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Alabama Collaboration of the Week

Just feeling bold this morning...I have created an Alabama Collaboration of the week and added the template to the project page. I arbitrarily but the Alabama article in for this week. Future COTW can be discussed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama/ALCOTW. Please feel free to make whatever changes you like. I think this is just a part of our growth. --JodyB yak, yak, yak 15:43, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Suggested article for WP:Alabama

I nominated To Kill a Mockingbird for GA status earlier this week and have been working on it for a couple months now. I'm surprised it's not under your project already. I can't presume to add your template to it since I'm not a member of WP:Alabama, but I'm bringing it to your attention. I don't believe the film is tagged with your template either. --Moni3 22:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

Image categories

I realized we had two categories for people to use when requesting a photo, so I've replaced Category:Alabama articles needing images with the pre-existing Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Alabama within {{WikiProject Alabama}}. If you keep a camera handy, these cats (and soon just the one) have several pending requests. - auburnpilot talk 01:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Apparently there is also a category for requested maps, which I hadn't seen. Hopefully somebody has been watching it: Category:Wikipedia requested maps in Alabama. - auburnpilot talk 01:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Requesting Mobile, Alabama assessment

I have completed a major reworking of the Mobile, Alabama article after it failed GA nomination in October. I think that the current article is now well-researched and balanced. I would like to get some feedback from my fellow wikiproject members before a broader peer review, however. If anyone can help with some constructive criticism of whether or not the old issues (see talk) have been resolved, or bring up any new issues. I would appreciate it very much. Thanks. Altairisfar (talk) 00:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Bel Air Mall tagged for expert

I have just tagged Bel Air Mall as an Alabama article needing expert attention. Just letting everyone know. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 15:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

New Resource

User:Betacommand has created a special page for us. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama/Articles by size for a listing of all articles in our domain ranked from largest to smallest. The usefullness of the list is that we can see at a glance which articles are in need of expansion. It also gives you good working fodder to create DYK articles. Anything less than about 1,500 bytes is pretty easily expanded by the required "5 fold." The bot will update the list daily. JodyB talk 00:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Voters' League

Reading the Rosa Parks article, I've stumbled across the sentence Parks and her husband were also members of the Voters' League, with Voters' League unlinked. I wasn't able to find a matching article but Googling around suggested the (past) existence of several state or city-wide Black Voters' Leagues. Perhaps someone is able and willing to fill this gap in Wikipedia and give some more background on this issue. --Pjacobi 19:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Zombie

The Alabama connection to Zombie (Marvel Comics) is reeeeeally tangential, don't you think? I'm not sure this article's inclusion adds in any way to understanding Alabama history and culture. --Tenebrae 19:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, Tenebrae. I tend to agree that it's a bit of a stretch and have asked SatyrTN, who operates SatyrBot, to remove Category:Fictional characters from Alabama from the list of categories it tracks and tags. - auburnpilot talk 21:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

GA status for Mobile, Alabama

Just letting everyone know that Mobile, Alabama has now passed the GA assessment. Altairisfar 18:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Don Siegelman/Bob Riley

There appear to be a string of POV edits from anonymous IPs underway in these articles about Alabama governors.. I'm not familiar enough with the controversies to know how far things might be getting out of balance. Perhaps some of you could take a look? --Dystopos (talk) 00:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Templates

I've been doing some work on assessing the project's unassessed articles and have noticed that the Alabama radio station templates (example= Template_talk:Anniston_Radio) are all showing up as unassessed articles. Is the fact that they are tagged as class=Template causing this? Should they be rated as class=NA? Altairisfartalk 23:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, NA. Somethings like categories are assessed so we use the NA tag. -JodyB talk 23:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Whew! We sure do have a ton of unassessed articles. Altairisfartalk 23:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
O.K., now all of the templates are rated NA. Altairisfartalk 00:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Unassessed articles

All of our unassessed articles have now been rated. Altairisfartalk 19:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Now go and get new glasses! Good job! -JodyB talk 22:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

State Park articles in danger

Take a look through the articles at List of Alabama state parks and you'll find that fully half of them are one-line stubs offering little more than a placeholder and a blue link. One of them was already lost to an unchallenged prod tag and I just fixed up the Rickwood Caverns State Park article so I could pull the prod tag off that one. I fear that some ambitious deletionist will find this pocket of sub-standard work and we'll lose more of these articles. If a few other editors could jump in here and tackle the one-liners to bring them up to at least a couple of paragraphs with references and some assertion of notability it would be greatly appreciated. I'll do a few more but I can't tackle them all by myself. - Dravecky (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've added an infobox (mostly blank), link to the specific Alabama State Parks site, and appropriate template to all of the articles. I've added a few words to a couple of them, too, but this is just a start. Again, I encourage anybody with a few minutes to add a little something to any or all of these articles. - Dravecky (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
It looks like our state parks are receiving the same amount of attention in Wikipedia as they do in reality. Just being a little facetious... I'll see if I can help out tomorrow. Altairisfartalk 05:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I've finished expanding Bladon Springs State Park from a two-line stub and I've recreated the Roland Cooper State Park article. Also expanded Chickasaw State Park (Alabama), Gulf State Park, & Meaher State Park. Altairisfartalk 19:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

O.K., now Cheaha State Park has been expanded from a one-liner, also worked on Oak Mountain State Park. These others need expanding from one or two-liners also, I'm leaving them for anyone else who cares enough to do it: Wind Creek State Park, Paul M. Grist State Park, Lakepoint State Park, Frank Jackson State Park, Florala State Park, Chewacla State Park, Chattahoochee State Park, and Blue Springs State Park. Altairisfartalk 08:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Alabama Cooperative Extension System

ACES-wikiman (talk · contribs), an employee of ACES and an extensive editor to the ACES page, would like some outside views on the neutrality of the article now that the WP:COI issues have been pointed out. Collectonian (talk · contribs) believes it needs a good copy edit, but I haven't had a chance to read the article and will not likely have time in the coming days. If anybody is looking for an Alabama article to lend a hand on, ACES-wikiman would appreciate your help on this one. - auburnpilot talk 15:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

University of North Alabama

One other page in which I have had a major involvement is the University of North Alabama page. It is now one of the top 15 largest pages among Alabama-related pages, though it's still listed in the start category page. I would appreciate someone assessing this article anew. Needless to say, it has progressed far beyond the start category. ACES-wikiman (talk) 20:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Project page

I was wondering if anyone has any objections to placing our project templates into tables to enhance readability on the project page. I've been working on it at my sandbox. If no one is opposed to that aspect of my proposal, I've been thinking about the best method to use for the stub templates. Should they be left as text or box them. Let me know. Thanks. Altairisfartalk 23:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

No objects to placing the templates within a box on the project page, but I believe the standard format for stub templates is plain text, rather than a boxed template. - auburnpilot talk 23:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I had browsed the other states after working on it and the ones I saw all had them as text, so text it is. I'll wait a while and see if anyone else has any input before implementing. Thanks. Altairisfartalk 23:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

New template being implemented

FYI. A new template, {{Alabama counties}}, has been created and is being added Alabama articles. It appears to be a version of {{Alabama}} but is being added to the the county seat articles (example Linden, Alabama), where no template other than the individual county template existed prior to its addition. This doesn't seem to be common practice elsewhere among the states. Altairisfartalk 21:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Assessment Request: Magnolia Springs, Alabama

Hello! I added a great deal of information, including citations, to the Magnolia Springs, Alabama article. Can someone please assess it? I trust the stub class will be removed after the review. Any other contributions are most welcome. A little mollusk (talk) 21:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Camille GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria and I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I have reviewed Hurricane Camille and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have left this message at this WikiProject's talk page so that any interested members can assist in helping the article keep its GA status. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I have left messages on the talk pages of the main contributors of the article along with other WikiProjects. Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix if multiple editors assist in the workload. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 23:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

FAR nomination

Ku Klux Klan has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 23:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

So has To Kill a Mockingbird. --Dystopos (talk) 04:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
To Kill a Mockingbird is a candidate to be FA. KKK is already FA is under review to determine if it still FA quality. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 04:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Okay right. All the bureaucracy is way over my head. --Dystopos (talk) 15:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry about it. It's sometimes over my head. Or maybe my northern accent.  :) OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 16:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Natalee Holloway is currently nominated for featured status (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Natalee Holloway). Any comments would be appreciated. - auburnpilot talk 03:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

George Petrie was not a football

I'm looking for a better title for George Petrie (American football). Please drop by the talk page and weigh in. Thanks, and War Eagle. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 19:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)