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From the editor

By Ral315, 10 September 2007

This week, we conducted our interview with Jimbo Wales. I hope you'll enjoy the interview, and find it informative. Thanks to all those who watched the interview live, and helped by contributing questions in real-time.

Much thanks to all those who contributed questions for the interview, and sorry to those whose questions weren't asked. There were a few really good questions that I meant to ask, but was not able to due to time restrictions.

Thanks for reading the Signpost.

— Ral315


Signpost interview: Jimbo Wales

By Ral315, 10 September 2007

When we last interviewed Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales, Wikipedia was approaching a million English articles. Today, the English Wikipedia has over two million articles, and since then, Wikipedia has moved from a top 25 Alexa site, to the ninth most-visited website in the world, visited by 6-8% of Internet users a day. This week, the Signpost again interviewed Jimbo Wales, asking him questions submitted by our readers.

Colored version

Wikipedia Signpost: First of all, the two-millionth English article was created [Sunday]. Is the Foundation planning a press release on this, similar to the millionth article, or will the milestone be more low-key?

Jimbo Wales: What time was the milestone reached? What was the 2 millionth article? Keep in mind, I just got off a plane from China a bit ago. :)

WS: 8:21 UTC Sunday; at this point, no one knows what the article was.

JW: There was a discussion on the Communication committee mailing list about whether to do a press release, and I don't know the final resolution. I have been a bit out of touch for the last week - it is hard to keep up with Wikipedia news in China, since Wikipedia is blocked in China. :) [NB: A press release is scheduled for release Tuesday.]

WS: Of course. On that note, this week, you visited China. Did you meet with Chinese officials regarding the blocking of Wikipedia within the PRC?

JW: Well, on this particular visit, I did not end up meeting with any relevant Chinese officials. Those visits are being scheduled for November. I was in Dalian, China attending an event of the World Economic Forum for the group of people they have named "Young Global Leaders". I met some awesome people. Of course they all know of Wikipedia (a few have had Wikipedia scandals or BLP issues or both). And others have missions that are in some ways similar to ours. Examples of interesting people I met: Jennifer Corriero is the founder of an organization called TakingITGlobal.org, which is "a global non-governmental organization (NGO) that runs a large online community and social network for youth who are interested in social, political and global issues." So she and I talked a lot about online communities.

JW: John Hope Bryant is the founder of something called Operation HOPE. He has an interesting global dignity initiative and I taught him about Creative Commons licenses and offered to help him find people to translate the dignity literature into 30 languages; this is an 4-6 page document he was lamenting not having the resources to get translated, and I told him how a wiki + a community + free licensing could help. I hope we can pull together as a community to help him get this into 50 languages instead of the 30 I suggested were possible for him. I will be blogging more about that once I get the information from him.

JW: Then for a fun one, I met Princess Mabel of the Netherlands, who is a delightful person, who happened to have had a WikiScanner situation last week. This is a cute video of her dancing for me.

WS: That's right, we reported on that last week. What did she have to say about that?

JW: Well, she hoped that the edit would give rise to a debate about the facts of the situation. But the media only focused on the fact of the editing. She also thinks they could have done a better job of it. Rather than removing the two incorrect words -- which was a mistake since it was part of a quote -- she should have added a sentence pointing out that the couple continues to maintain that they gave no incorrect information, only incomplete information. (I have no opinion on the content of the controversy, but can testify that after a very long conversation with her, it was quite clear to me that it would be absurd to think of her as acting in bad faith around this matter.)

JW: I also met Kate Roberts of YouthAids. She has a set of skills that we have not had, around recruiting celebrities to help promote a cause, and getting lots of funding. I learned a lot from talking to her.

WS: How is the Foundation planning to run the fall fundraiser? Will the emphasis be more on personal donations, or larger, corporate and grant contributions?

JW: For the most part it will be the same as ever, with banners on the website, etc. Except that I have gotten commitments for over US$1 million in matching funds from wealthy individuals. Oh, and also tomorrow I am meeting with the Truth in Numbers film crew, who have offered (for free) to put together a promo video for the fundraiser.

WS: Gwern asks, "When anonymous page creation was forbidden, it was said that there would be a study of its effects. That was a very long time ago. Was any type of formal study ever done? If it was, when will it be released? Have you considered allowing anonymous page creation again?"

JW: I am unaware of any formal study. My own feeling is that anonymous page creation should be re-enabled when the stable versions feature is available. I do not consider the experiment to be a success or a failure. It seems to have had very little impact on anything, all things considered.

WS: In 2004, you said, “In general, I like living in a world with anonymous proxies ... There are many valid uses for them. But, writing on Wikipedia is not one of the valid uses”. How do you feel about the use of open proxies on Wikipedia today?

JW: I just came back from China. I was unable for that entire time to access Wikipedia. If I had been able to access Wikipedia, using Tor for example, I would likely have not been able to edit. I think that's a shame. At the same time, anonymous proxies do pose a couple of interesting problems for us. First, they spew a lot of vandalism, and the reality of the situation is that more people seem to use such tools for bad than for good. Second, there are some interesting problems that could arise due to the increasing number of griefers/trolls who would like to build fake "good" accounts at Wikipedia while at the same time continuing "bad" behaviors. I acknowledge that it is a tough problem, but I think it important that we think carefully and pro-actively and always try by default to be as open as we can be.

WS: As a follow-up, Raul654 asks, Roger Dingledine, inventor of TOR, has said that if Wikipedia implemented a trust metric, this would effectively solve the problem of proxies. Have you considered adding such a feature?

JW: It is not up to me, but that avenue of approach seems viable. I think we should only soft-block Tor anyway.

WS: Mike Peel asks, "A lot of Wikipedia's articles are unreferenced. What do you think are the best ways to encourage contributors to reference their additions?"

JW: I think the amount of unreferenced content should decrease naturally over time. Certainly, BLP has helped in this regard quite a bit. At least in that sensitive area, we are much better than we used to be.

WS: Ta bu shi da yu asks, "A number of attempts at setting up a way of marking stable versions have been proposed, and at least one MediaWiki extension has been created. None of these proposals have taken off, and it looks like the extension has stagnated. What's your opinion on stable versioning? How do you personally think it should be used – as a default when available for anonymous users, or as an optional view?"

JW: What I support with stable versions is that whatever it is, it is the default view for anonymous visitors, but that it should be used sparingly, not on all articles; that it needs to be a "state" that an article is in, like semi-protection, but more open.

WS: Raul654 asks, "I have heard through the grapevine that the 2006 audit excoriated the Foundation for having very little by way of data backups or recovery plans. Has this situation improved? If so, how? On a related note, can we expect to see SQL dumps of en-wikipedia more often?"

JW: That is 100% completely false. The audit did not excoriate the Foundation for anything! I have no idea why anyone would hear something "through the grapevine" when the audit was published here and here.

WS: As a follow-up, does the Foundation have data backup/recovery plans in place should a disaster occur?

JW: Ask Brion [Vibber]. I am not really qualified to answer detailed technology questions.

WS: RobertG asks, "Wikipedia's success is remarkable, and something I think you must be very proud of. Are there any of your initial hopes or expectations which Wikipedia has failed to meet up to? And given its success, what is your medium- and long-term vision for Wikipedia now?"

JW: Well I am primarily interested these days in the growth of minority Wikipedia languages. I am extremely pleased with the progress in the last year of some of the languages of India. But I think that we still have a long way to go in African languages. Toward that end, I am going 3 times in the next 9 months to South Africa (twice at my own expense) to help promote the growth of Wikipedia in the languages of South Africa, and I am reaching out to people across all of Africa to better understand how we might see better growth there.

WS: Finally, what is your opinion regarding WikiScanner? With increased press attention toward the potentially bad edits made by corporate entities, how can we balance press attention back toward the positive areas of Wikipedia?

JW: I love WikiScanner in general; I am hoping that we could find a way to warn people who are about to make an edit from a corporate network that their edit will be public. And encourage them to be good.


WikiWorld comic: "Godwin's Law"

By Greg Williams, 10 September 2007

This week's WikiWorld comic uses text from "Godwin's Law" and "Mike Godwin", and an image from "Image:Hitler speech.jpg". The comic is released under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 license for use on Wikipedia and elsewhere.
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News and notes

By Ral315, SimonP, wwwwolf and Quiddity, 10 September 2007

Two-millionth article created

On Sunday, the two-millionth English article was created. It is unclear at this point exactly which article was the 2,000,000th article although El Hormiguero was declared by consensus to be the 2,000,000th article. The Wikimedia Foundation is expected to make an official announcement soon, after reviewing the database logs in a search to find the true 2,000,000th article. As of Saturday afternoon, the Wikimedia Foundation has not conclusively found the true 2,000,000th article.

Finnish Wikipedia to select Arbitration Committee

On August 30, the Finnish Wikipedia discussion in regard to creating an Arbitration Committee was completed, with about 91% of the users supporting it. The committee is called Välityslautakunta ("Arbitration Board"). Now, the first elections are soon coming up; candidacy opened September 3 and is open until September 17, and the elections go from September 17 through October 1.

Media statistics released

Using data from the now-discontinued external ogg player (see related story), Greg Maxwell compiled usage statistics for Ogg Vorbis and Ogg Theora videos. The top five most-played media files were:

  1. Image:Ejaculation Educational Demonstration.OGG (Ejaculation), 338,155 plays.
  2. Image:Wilhelm.ogg (Wilhelm scream), 192,219 plays.
  3. Image:Blonde stag film.ogg (Pornography silent stag film), 41,038 plays.
  4. Image:Tacoma Narrows Bridge destruction.ogg (Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse), 35,231 plays.
  5. Image:STH reverse.ogg (Supposed backmasking in Stairway to Heaven), 30,286 plays.

The raw data is available here.

Also this week, nearly 100 classical cello recordings by John Michel were uploaded, after Raul654 asked Michel to release them under the Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0 license.

Vicipedia

Three Victoria College students wearing Vicipedia t-shirts
Three Victoria College students wearing Vicipedia t-shirts

Victoria College in Toronto, where SimonP studied, did something rather neat and Wikipedia related. Each year, they have a different theme for orientation week, and this year's was named "Vicipedia" (Victoria College is generally referred to as "Vic"). They had a number of Wikipedia related events, and every first year student at the school spent the week wearing shirts with a parody of the Wikipedia logo on the front and a random Wikipedia utility on the back (such as the community portal or featured articles). For one of the events, due to SimonP's well publicized links to Wikipedia, he was invited back to participate in a trivia contest against teams of first years. The official site for the event can be found here.

Briefly


In the news

By Enochlau, September 10, 2007

Wikipedia inaccessible from China again

Wikipedia Blocked in China Again - Access to Wikipedia has been blocked in the People's Republic of China on various occasions, with no explanation from the government. Until recently, the English-language Wikipedia was accessible, while the Chinese-language site was not. It now appears that the English language Wikipedia is also inaccessible, and there is speculation that it may be due to the upcoming Communist Party Congress, which begins in October.

Collaboration will change methods of production

The wiki way - This is a review of a book by Don Tapscott, coauthored with Anthony Williams, called Wikinomics. It explores how modern production is changing due to tools that enable mass collaboration, such as wikis. The implication for large companies is emphasised: "Companies - certainly big companies - are losing their raison d'etre. Individuals, and tiny companies, can collaborate without corporate behemoths to organise them."

Other mentions

Other mentions of Wikipedia in the online press include:


Features and admins

By Singularity, 10 September 2007

Administrators

Six users were granted admin status via the Requests for Adminship process this week: Anonymous Dissident (nom), Chunky Rice (nom), Edison (nom), Navou (nom), Elkman (nom) and Satori Son (nom).

Bots

Ten bots or bot tasks were approved to begin operating this week: Chris G Bot (task request), PhotoCatBot (task request), ClueBot II (task request), AlptaBot (task request), Ganeshbot (task request), The wubbot (task request), ZwoBot (task request), BOTijo (task request), and RussBot (task request).

Featured content

Twenty-three articles were promoted to featured status last week: Bobby Robson (nom), Héctor Lavoe (nom), Aggie Bonfire (nom), New Ordinances of 1311 (nom), Today (Smashing Pumpkins song) (nom), Yellowstone fires of 1988 (nom), Hey Baby (No Doubt song) (nom), Bald Eagle (nom), Fun Home (nom), Georgetown University (nom), Cretaceous–Tertiary extinction event (nom), Jason Voorhees (nom), Swedish emigration to the United States (nom), Winfield Scott Hancock (nom), 2005 Texas Longhorn football team (nom), Andrew Cunningham, 1st Viscount Cunningham of Hyndhope (nom), Thoughts on the Education of Daughters (nom), European Commission (nom), Kingdom Hearts (series) (nom), Typhoon Pongsona (nom), Bob Meusel (nom), Military of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (nom) and The Power of Nightmares (nom).

Two articles were de-featured last week: Democratic Labour Party (Trinidad and Tobago) (nom) and President of Ireland (nom).

Five lists were promoted to featured status last week: List of Dartmouth College faculty (nom), Calder Memorial Trophy (nom), List of Athabasca University people (nom), Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy (nom) and Army Groups of the National Revolutionary Army (nom).

No lists were de-featured last week.

No portals were promoted to featured status last week.

One topic was promoted to featured status last week: Victoria Cross (nom).

The following featured articles were displayed last week on the Main Page as Today's featured article: Australia at the Winter Olympics, Olm, Jersey Shore shark attacks of 1916, The Bus Uncle, Renewable energy in Scotland, Hey Ya!, and Fun Home.

The following featured pictures were displayed last week on the Main Page as picture of the day: Externsteine, Colosseum, Lion and cub eating Cape Buffalo, Flower chafers mating, Crashing landing of Hellcat into USS Enterprise, Chief police officer in Hamburg, and Animated simulation of a phenakistoscope disc.

Ten pictures were promoted to featured status last week and are shown below.

Interior of the Neue Wache in Berlin

Ivan Shishkin's Rye

Flammarion woodcut

Yellow-Bellied Marmot

Shaftesbury Avenue, in London

Lioness

Roesel's bush-cricket

Penedès vines

Hornet holding a bee torso

Total lunar eclipse from 28 August 2007



Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News

By ais523, 10 September 2007

This is a summary of recent technology and site configuration changes that affect the English Wikipedia. Note that not all changes described here are live as of press time; the English Wikipedia is currently running version 1.13alpha (r36113), and changes to the software with a version number higher than that will not yet be active; configuration changes and changes to interface messages, however, become active immediately.

Fixed bugs

New features

Configuration changes

  • The mw:Extension:OggHandler extension has been enabled on the English Wikipedia; the extension allows audio and video in the Ogg Theora, Vorbis, Speex and FLAC formats to be added to articles in much the same way as images, and will try various methods of playback for such files depending on what a user's browser supports. The syntax to include audio and/or video is [[Image:filename]], the same syntax as for images, and options can be given in a similar way. Video and audio templates have been changed to the new format, so there might be some technical difficulties for the next few days. For more information, see this mailing list post.

Other technology news

Ongoing news

  • Internationalisation has been continuing as normal; help is always appreciated! See m:Localization statistics for how complete the translations of languages you know are, and post any updates to bugzilla or use Betawiki.


The Report on Lengthy Litigation

By David Mestel, 10 September 2007

The Arbitration Committee accepted one new case this week, and closed one case.

Closed case

  • Boris Stomakhin: A case involving a dispute between Biophys and Vlad fedorov, involving alleged BLP and 3RR violations, block evasion, and edit-warring. As a result of the case, Vlad federov was banned for one year.

New case

  • THF-DavidShankBone: A case involving alleged POV editing by THF relating to Michael Moore, and alleged harassment by DavidShankBone. Fred Bauder has proposed a remedy advising THF to "rely more on negotiation with other users and less on legalistic citing of policies and guidelines when disputes arise".

Evidence phase

  • The Troubles: A case involving a large number of editors on articles related to The Troubles. Some editors attempted to withdraw from the case when its scope was widened at the request of an arbitrator to cover the entire area rather than only the behaviour of Vintagekits, but in accordance with arbitration policy, these attempts, along with other changes to statements after the case opened, were reverted by the clerk.
  • SevenOfDiamonds: A case involving alleged abusive sockpuppetry and other misconduct by SevenOfDiamonds. SevenOfDiamonds vigorously denies the allegations, and alleges that MONGO has harassed him.
  • Digwuren: A case involving alleged POV-pushing and incivility by Digwuren and alleged sockpuppets.

Voting phase

  • Artaxerex: A case involving alleged POV-pushing, incivility and sockpuppetry by Artaxerex. Artaxerex denies the allegations, and alleges that Shervink and others are focusing on getting him blocked, and that certain editors push an Iranian nationalist POV. A remedy banning Artaxerex has the support of three arbitrators.
  • Jmfangio-Chrisjnelson: A case involving alleged edit warring, hostility and incivility between Jmfangio and Chrisjnelson. Jmfangio has been indefinitely blocked after checkuser confirmed that this account is the reincarnation of a community banned editor.
  • Allegations of apartheid: This case concerns the conduct of various editors in connection with a group of articles whose titles include the words "Allegations of apartheid". It has been alleged that these articles were created in violation of Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point, after several deletion debates concerning Allegations of Israeli apartheid resulted in that article being kept. Issues have also been raised concerning comments made in deletion discussions and reviews. Several users who have created and edited the "Allegations of apartheid" articles have strongly denied any inappropriate conduct. Voting on most proposals is split, but an amnesty for past actions currently has a majority.
  • Catalonia: A case brought by Physchim62 involving alleged edit warring, possible sockpuppetry, and other misconduct by various editors on Catalonia, Valencian Community, and related articles. A proposal banning Maurice27 for thirty days has the support of five arbitrators, and one encouraging the parties to continue with the normal consensus-building procedure has seven.
  • COFS: A case initiated by Durova based on a discussion at the community sanctions noticeboard. The case involves allegations of tendentious editing by various editors, sockpuppetry, conflicts of interest, and other user conduct issues on Scientology related articles. The proposed decision, which has the support of six to nine arbitrators, would ban COFS for 30 days for POV editing and require him to change his username and disclose any duties he may have to the Church of Scientology before resuming editing. A proposal banning Anynobody from harassing Justanother has the support of eight arbitrators, and one placing Scientology articles on article probation has four.