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[edit] May 2005 discoveries

[edit] LACMTA-stub

{{LACMTA-stub}} User: Pacific Coast Highway 30 April 1 (Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority) No category

[edit] {{LACMTA-stub}} update

Still no category added for {{LACMTA-stub}} (t/l) but User:Pacific Coast Highway has started adding this stub to newly created articles—mostly station stubs for the various Metro Rail lines. My guess is that there are probably around 50 total stations, with only a few of them having the potential to grow larger than stub size. BlankVerse ∅ 11:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] MDpolitician-stub (*now on WP:SFD for renaming)

{{MDpolitician-stub}} User: Tomf688 9 April 50+ (Maryland Politicians)

[edit] nintendo-stub

{{nintendo-stub}} User: Roadrunner3000 22 April 1 Nintendo  

[edit] model-stub

{{model-stub}} User: DNewhall 12 May 2 Models No stub category. Was actually listed at Wikipedia:Template_messages/Stubs.

[edit] afl-stub

{{afl-stub}} User: The Brain of Morbius 19 May 4 Australian rules football  

[edit] occult-stub

{{occult-stub}} User: 67.51.137.39 7 May 34 Magic (paranormal)  
This one may well be useful, if we can figure out a way to tie it into the hierarchy (it may be able to depopulate myth-stub a little, and also possibly new-age stubs). Grutness...wha? 7 July 2005 12:55 (UTC)

[edit] Arizona State Route Stub

{{Arizona State Route Stub}} User: Atanamir 16 May 7 Arizona State Routes No hyphens, unconventional layout.

This template is similar in function to {{California State Highway Stub}} and the awaiting-approval {{Washington State Highway Stub}}. It is needed to sort out what articles need to be finished, especially for a WP (AZ has no WP for its state highways but CA and WA do, and it is assumed that AZ will get its own WP along with all the other 50 states). --Rschen7754 19:54, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

We should also decide whether these need renaming to be more in line with other stub names (Arizona-stateroute-stub, for example) Grutness...wha? 06:28, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
If we rename the template that means that we have to go through and change every CA state highway (and there's at least 300 articles) to have the different tag, as well as the 5020 or so WA articles, and who knows aboutthe 10 or so in Arizona? Anyone interested in the work?--Rschen7754

[edit] Pakistan-econ-stub (*on SFD)

{{Pakistan-econ-stub}} User: Egalitus 13 May 5 Pakistani economy Two categories, one specific one and its parent Category:Economics and finance stubs

[edit] Indian-movie-stub

{{Indian-movie-stub}} User: DuKot 15 May 2 Indian movies Feeds into film-stub category

[edit] Comments

Okay. here's mytake on a few of these:
  • Occult stub - duplicates magic-stub and para-stub. delete
  • model-stub - ambiguous. Starlets or aircraft? - rename, at the very least
This looks like a keeper, I stumbled upon it while browsing people stubs and found use for it. I fixed it up now, should be okay. I'd keep the redirect because we're unlikely to actually have many non-bio model stubs, or at least I can't imagine many :) --Joy [shallot] 18:14, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Parasite-stub - fits nicely alongside things like bacteria-stub in bio-sci.. keep
  • the Vietnam war ones - we were discussing creating this recently. Vietnam-war-stub is the better named one. The other one can go, since it's not used.
  • FR-stub - badly named, as the tfd-candidates FR-actor-stub and FR-bio-stub (for France) show. delete or at least rename
  • developer-stub and MSDN-stub. Trust a developer to get it wrong :). Aren't these already covered by various other stubs?
  • Monorail-stub - covered by rail-stub delete

Grutness...wha? 01:36, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] June 2005 archives

[edit] {{Eris-stub}} / Category:Discordianism stubs

Added to WP:WSS/ST. Only used in one article. --TheParanoidOne 12:29, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This one's been known about for some time, and I';m fairly sure it went to tfd and cfd and was voted for deletion (can't swear to that - it's a while ago). So what it's still doing around is a mystery... Grutness...wha? 13:43, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It was being contrary and un-deleted itself, maybe ;). Courtland 13:58, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)
Regarding TheParanoidOne's comment on my talk page, I did not add {{Eris-stub}} to the list; Grutness did on March 19, 2005[1]. I merely updated the count.
According to my research, the {{Eris-stub}} template and associated category were created on February 6, 2005. On February 12, RJFJR suggested that it should be deleted[2]. All of the (3) people who commented agreed. Ceyockey asked if the template and category should be listed on tfd and cfd on March 6, and, before anyone answered, archived the discussion on March 16. I can't find it in the tfd log, so I presume nobody bothered to actually nominate it for deletion. If somebody wants to do so now, please let me know so that I can go vote to keep it. — The Storm Surfer 16:38, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
My mistake. The fact that I had never seen it on the list before made me incorrectly assume that it was being newly added. --TheParanoidOne 17:02, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
No worries :)
I don't if it went through the proper channels for a new stub category, or what those channels would be. — The Storm Surfer 20:21, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
See the note at the top of the page: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Criteria#Proposing_new_stubs_-_procedure. Grutness...wha? 02:35, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Category:Basic category stubs

Hmm. That one is tricky. It's linked from Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs/Templates, where a template example generates it. Someone created it and even I even found an article in it. Of course, it's completely useless, but if deleted it might still be recreated. I put a message to that effect on it for now and removed it from Category:Stub categories. Delete or simply keep and ignore? -- grm_wnr Esc 15:13, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Someone with more admining experience than me will know for sure, but I believe there's a way of deleting and protecting the deletion... don't know if this would qualify for that treatment though. Grutness...wha? 02:40, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] July 2005 discoveries

[edit] {{docu-stub}}

Comes complete with Category:Documentary stubs, a redirect at {{documentary-stub}} and 20 articles. I'm not listing this one on SFD because it's actually a good idea and takes films out of {{film-stub}}, which is massive. If noone has any complaints I'm going to put it into the list and sorting it into the category hierarchy. -- grm_wnr Esc 6 July 2005 12:20 (UTC)

Out of film-stub? So this is for film documentaries not TV documentaries? Or is it for both? I think it's probably a keeper, but it might need a bit of a tweak before listing to say exactly what goes in here and what doesn't. Grutness...wha? 7 July 2005 09:15 (UTC)

Four redirects to this have been created today by an anon user: {{docu-stubs}}, {{docu stubs}}, {{documentary-stubs}} and {{documentary stubs}}. --TheParanoidOne 23:53, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{firearms-stub}}

Same as above, well done, with Category:Firearms stubs and 105 articles. Subcategorizes {{weapon-stub}} (434 articles at the moment). A keeper and going on the list, unless someone thinks otherwise. -- grm_wnr Esc 6 July 2005 13:15 (UTC)

  • Looking further, it seems that {{weapon-stub}} contains little apart from stuff that could go into {{firearms-stub}}. Maybe firearms-stub should be renamed {{small-arms-stub}}, to keep the heavy weaponry in weapon-stub? -- grm_wnr Esc 6 July 2005 13:20 (UTC)
  • I agree with rename to small-arms-stub. Stubs should be specific enough to not be confused with any other stub category, but broad enough to be inclusive of articles in need of such a stub. inigmatus 21:49, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
  • keep as firearms, then generate a second stub for heavier weapons which could inlcude missiles, artillery etc. mil-ship-stub could then also become a subset if needed.GraemeLeggett 10:09, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
  • keep per Graeme. I am rather astonished nobody asked me. My chief problem with creating that stub was that I didn't know where to draw the distinction between a "firearm" and a "heavy weapon." Is a 40mm bofors a "firearm"? My guess was no, but I couldn't find anything that made a distinction. I stayed away from the heavy weapons, and simply categorized most man-portable powder-charge weapons as firearms. What I was trying to do is move a lot of the smaller arms, like the M14, out of "mil stub" because they are not strictly military weapons (I for one own an M14). Avriette 19:45, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{loco-stub}}

...and its category, Category:Locomotive stubs, a child of Category:Rail stubs. Seems to be quite useful and is used by over 50 articles. Grutness...wha? 08:29, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Not new, it's been around (and listed on WP:WSS/ST) for a while. Conscious 14:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
... which only goes to show that a wikiholic who seems to spend his entire life at WP:WSS can miss 'em too! Grutness...wha? 01:35, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I see loco, I think crazy first, train second. :) --TheParanoidOne 20:09, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{Dj-stub}}

Dj-stub, leading to Category:DJs stubs has just been created. Would any of those involved int he split-up of Musician stubs like to comment on this one? Grutness...wha? 06:50, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it points to Category:Hip hop DJs stubs which only contains 2 articles. I've only encountered a few DJs through my recent musician-stub visits. There might be sufficient articles to warrant a DJ-stub (note the case!) but narrowing down to Hip Hop immediately seems a little ... premature. Either way, if this is kept, the template and category will need to have consistent text. --TheParanoidOne 20:05, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Of the two, I'd rename the category, for the reasons you give, and also because the plural looks clunky. There should also be consistency between the capitalisation (which may mean redirecting the template - DJ is pretty near universal rather than Dj, I think). Grutness...wha? 01:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Agreed about the category - it should be a child of Category:DJs first.
I think the name actually aimed for dj-stub, all lowercase. I moved it, so both works now. --Joy [shallot] 01:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{Final Fantasy-stub}}

I just found it and added to the list, since it's good to go: Nearly 50 articles (probably more), well-defined scope, has a WikiProject, name and category are fine. Has two nonstandard redirects pointing at it, though: Template:FinalFantasy stub and Template:Final Fantasy stub. -- grm_wnr Esc 18:58, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the main template name is also nonstandard - it should be {{FinalFantasy-stub}}. Grutness...wha? 01:28, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{SaGa-stub}}

Created awhile back, but there simply isn't enough coverage for this series of games for it to deserve its own stub type. Just added since I only now figured out how to add a stub type here. Also, I mistakenly created Category:SaGa stubs awhile back manually. Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 20:04, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{Golf-stub}}

Been around for a month, but only made it to the stub list today. Nicely formed, nice category, nice number of articles. generally nice, in fact. Only problem is that 3/4 of the 60 articles with this stub are actually golfers, and therefore should have some form of bio-stub (Golf-bio-stub or Golfer-stub). Grutness...wha? 14:03, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{OCTA-stub}}

As I've mentioned above, there probably aren't enough stubs for Orange County, California to warrant its own stub, so the Orange County Transportation Authority certainly doesn't need one. This was created by an anon 204.108.96.10 (t c) who has been adding lots of miscellaneous nonsense to articles (like adding the auto-stub template to major auto company articles!). BlankVerse ∅ 14:49, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a perfect candidate for sfd to me... Grutness...wha? 19:57, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] {{mahjong stub}} / Cat:Mahjong stubs

Umm yeah. Created 14 July by User:Mcy jerry. Missing hyphen, but the rest formally alright. But, Mahjong stubs? Isn't that a little specific? Currently 7 articles in it, and quite frankly I'm amazed there are even that many. -- grm_wnr Esc 00:29, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

I'd suggest mrging it with Board-game-stub. I doubt it'll ever get near criteria. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
This one's heading to sfd, anyway. Grutness...wha? 10:48, 11 August 2005 (UTC)