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[edit] Discussions on goals

I've started this subpage for suggestions on new goals, questions on whether goals should be moved from long-term to short-term or vice versa, and so on. We can use this space for goal discussions and leave the front page clean and the general talk page for more general discussions. I'll move our other discussions here in a while. Jonas Karlsson 22:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding images short-term goals

[edit] Progress

Added cover images to Changeling: The Dreaming, Demon: The Fallen, Mage: The Ascension, Vampire: The Dark Ages, Vampire: The Requiem, Kindred of the East, Mummy: The Resurrection, and Hunter: The Reckoning. SeekerVI 21:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Added cover images to Beyond the Supernatural, Bureau 13, Diomin, Forbidden Kingdoms, Little Fears, Masque of the Red Death, Revelation, Weird_War, and The Whispering Vault; couldn't find anything for Kalmo and Ravenloft has a logo. SeekerVI 01:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Great work, SeekerVI! How about we go about the goal as we did with the infoboxes, one category at a time? It seems like you've worked your way through some WoD and some Horror articles, but are the categories done? Let's focus on Horror now and when it's done place it in a "done" list here on the discussion page, so that we know we're making progress. Or we could go in order on the page that lists articles with an infobox. What's easiest? Jonas Karlsson 18:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I see now that the front-page "Short-term" and "Reached" goals are being used. That's good. I'm moving Horror to "Reached" and promoting two other categories. Jonas Karlsson 18:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Added cover images to Teenagers from Outer Space and Gangbusters. Those are the first images I've added, so somebody should go make sure I did it correctly! Michael Bauser 19:55, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Added cover images to Diana: Warrior Princess, Fanhunter, Ghostbusters RPG, HackMaster, HoL, Star Riders, and Underground. SeekerVI 06:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added images to Over the Edge and Ninjas and Superspies. Rossumcapek 08:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Added cover images to Aberrant, Adventure!, Brave New World, & Trinity before uploading died on me. --SeekerVI 18:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Cover images added to Big Bang Comics RPG, Capes, Champions, Golden Heroes, Heroes Unlimited, Marvel Universe RPG, Silver Age Sentinels, & With_Great_Power...; logos added to Marvel Super Heroes & Powergame. --SeekerVI 23:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where to get images

I'm a bit confused... Where are we allowed to aquire the cover images from? So, we may scan them ourselves, right? But what else? Can we just seek them via Google and name the page we found it on as source? And could we for example use images from pen-paper.net? That would make work much easier, but I'm not sure whether it's all okay... -- Genesis 11:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

For the GURPS entries i have been working on i just pinched small versions from the SJGames site. I think it counts as fair use (its also an option in the license dropdown when you upload the image) and i cant really see them complaining because its basicly free advertising. as an aside, if anyone needs diagrams drawn for any article i am happy to produce them to a spec Brehaut 11:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Have you conatced SJG about this to get a go ahead, or are we just assuming? If the later, I think it would be a good idea to contact them (I'm willing to do so if no one else wants to) KalevTait 18:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. But what about pen-paper.net? I'd really like to use that page, as they have a huge amount of book covers. They are basically doing the same thing that we do, using low res images to illustrate the entries. I'm just not totally sure whether it would be okay to take their files (maybe send an e-mail to the admin?) -- Genesis 11:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Contacting the pen and paper admins is probably worth while yes. I cant see any reason they would say no either. - Brehaut 20:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I just go to Google image search, myself, and don't bother to attribute the site, because, IMHO, the important thing to attribute is the publisher of the book, who really owns the image, and did the drawing or paid the artist, not the guy who held it over a scanner for 15 seconds. If the picture is just a straight-forward cover scan, the scanner can't very well complain ("hey, you're copying my copy of someone else's work..."). It's not the same as a photograph, or a drawing that they composed or made themselves. GRuban 14:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Oh, totally forgot to mention it: pen-paper.net game me an okay ages ago ^^ -- Genesis 08:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roleplaying mechanics?

Perhaps we can put together an article that deals with general RPG mechanics? Dice systems, granularity, diceless resultion mechanisms, tag-based resolutions, etc., etc.? אמר Steve Caruso (poll) 22:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like that could easily grow to more than one article. But go ahead and start one, I'd be happy to add something. KalevTait 00:03, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Content along these lines would be well-used in expanding role-playing game system, rather than budding off a new article. Percy Snoodle 14:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The article Gamemaster needs citiations, references, and general cleanup. I'll do what I can next week. The Bearded One (talk) 19:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested New Long Term Goal - correct spelling: "roleplaying"

See talk from Roleplaying game artilce for more info.
I suggest the Long Term Goals be updated to add the correction of the spelling of "Role-playing game" to "Roleplaying game" since most Roleplaying game companies use the term Roleplaying rather than Role-playing.
—Asatruer 20:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Seconded :-) Percy Snoodle 06:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I do feel it needs to be done with care, though. Someone moved the main RPG article into "Category:Roleplaying games", though that didn't exist. I think it would be far better done through WP:RM and WP:CFD than by hand. Percy Snoodle 11:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
That's a funny quirk of the English language. "Role playing" to "role-playing" to "roleplaying" :-) I agree with this proposition, however I forsee the upcomming transition to be -very- messy. :-P I'll help however I can. אמר Steve Caruso (poll) 14:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

See the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_12#Category:Role-playing_games_to_Category:Roleplaying_games Percy Snoodle 09:06, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good articles

I think the first step towards getting a FA is to get several GAs. I'd like to recommend

I'm sure there are others; these are just the ones that came to mind. Percy Snoodle 14:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and of course:

Percy Snoodle 09:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Altered longeterm goal~?

3.Consistent naming: rename all "Foo (RPG)" and "Foo (Role-playing game)" pages to "Foo (role-playing game)". Note: This assumes 1) that just "Foo", without the parenthetical qualifier, is already used for another article (if it isn't, just use that), and 2) that Foo is a specific role-playing game, not an article about multiple role-playing games, or RPGs in general. The plural, "Foo (role-playing games)", is preferred for those. Category: Role-playing game terms has many examples.


How about a standard naming system for all RPG articles? Such as Foo (roleplaying game) with a redirect from the Foo article if there's nothing there. Then, if Foo the broadway musical becomes world famous throughout English speaking countries, Foo the RPG wouldn't have to deal with an identity crisis. -- SeekerVI 14:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

That would be against Wikipedia policies; hovever, there's a debate going on about changing those policies WRT episode titles, so if that does come down in favour of more disambiguation, it would be sensible to make the changes you describe. Personally, I'm against increased use of parenthesised titles. Percy Snoodle 15:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
To explain further, the guidelines are at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Deciding to disambiguate; the debate is at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)/Episode title RfC; and WRT is "with respect to". Percy Snoodle 11:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
How would it be against disambiguation guidelines? I wonder what alternatives there are to parentheses. Maybe Foo - roleplaying game or a Wikipedia-wide bracket classification system with a specialized web browser and a new language to replace HTML. - SeekerVI 22:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AD&D, Rifts,Tunnels & Trolls, and Shadowrun

I will help out with article pertaining to these rpg's. I have all the original rule books for all of the systems above. They are the forefathers to D20 modern and D&D 3.5, therefore, making them the best.

Jake23482 12/20/06 12:43 pm. EST


[edit] Fair use rational for cover images

All the RPG articles with non-free cover images need a current fair use rationale added to them, I'm doing as many as I have time for, but it's more than I can handle. So here's a template if anyone else who wants to have a go (replace the XXXXXXX with the actual info, of course)

- SeekerVI (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fair use rationale ==
{{Non-free media rationale
|Article=XXXXXXX
|Description=Book Cover 
|Source=XXXXXXX Derived from a digital capture (photo/scan) of the book cover (creator of this digital version is irrelevant as the copyright in all equivalent images is still held by the same party). Copyright held by XXXXXXX.  Claimed as fair use regardless.
|Portion=Front book cover only, a small portion of the commercial product.
|Low_resolution=Yes
|Purpose=The image serves as the primary means of visual identification of the subject (the book).  It illustrates educational articles about the book from which the cover image was taken.
|Replaceability=There is no free equivalent of this book cover, so the image cannot be replaced by a free image.
|other_information=The use of the cover will not reduce the value of the original work or limit the copyright holder's rights or ability to distribute the original. In particular, copies could not be used to make illegal copies of the book.
}}
[[category:Book covers]]