Wikipedia:WikiProject Regional and national music/Definitions

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The talk page of this project page is for discussing the definitions of the following terms:

• World music
• Roots music (including Roots revival)
• Folk music
• Traditional music
• Any associated terms

Contents 1 3 types of music (with fusions) 2 Definitions of terms under discussion 3 Wikipedia music organisation 3.1 Proposals Round 2

[edit] 3 types of music (with fusions)

Music can essentially be divided into three categories:

• Art music: This includes various types of music, mostly classical (both western and non-western), but also jazz
• Popular music: This is the music that is in the mainstream at the moment
• Traditional music: This is the music of various people of the world; basically what was popular music in a pre-globalisation, pre-copyright, pre-electronic age (with the split between popular and traditional music occuring at different times in different parts of the world, depending on globalisation, etc); typified by an oral tradition

In addition, there are fusions of the above:

•  ???: Fusion of Traditional music and Popular music
•  ???: Fusion of Traditional music and Art music: This genre has no discernable title (although most prevalent in the romantic era; cf. the Cultural appropriation in western music sections of the World music page), but includes works such as:
  • Brahms' Hungarian Dances
  • Appalachian Spring by Aaron Copeland
  • Chopin's Polonaises
  • Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody
  • Some of Percy Grainger's work
  • Some of Louis Moreau Gottschalk's work
•  ???: Fusion of Art music and Popular music: includes things such as the CD entitled "Beatles go Baroque" (ie. the Beatles arranged in the Baroque style)

[edit] Definitions of terms under discussion

The terms under discussion seem to be defined as follows:

• World music: All traditional music, plus non-Western Art and Pop music (does not include blues or country)
• Roots music:
  • General definition (according to Roots music page + common sense): Traditional music + Popular music which is based on traditional music
  • Specific definition: American roots music (includes blues and country)
• Folk music: Traditional music, plus popular music which is based on traditional folk music

[edit] Wikipedia music organisation

At the moment, much of the same content appears on eg. the Folk music and World music pages. The following proposals seemed to achieve consensus on the talk page:

1. Change Traditional music from being a redirect to Folk music, and make it a defintion, plus a set of links to the appropriate articles; some of the material from Folk music could be used (Done)
2. Rewrite World music, Folk music, and Roots music with reference to the following articles:
   • The new Traditional music article (done)
   • American folk music revival (the Folk music article seems to have large sections about this) (done)
3. Move the "World Music" WikiProject to Wikipedia:WikiProject Regional and national music (a geographically-based music project) (done)
4. Create "Roots music" (Roots music in the general sense (see above), not the specific sense) (in process)

[edit] Proposals Round 2

Other proposals did not reach consensus, so a new set of proposals to replace them are:

• As all genres are fusional, integrate fusion (music) and Progressive music with Music genre

Seems like someone has done this previously for fusion (music). I changed Progressive music to a disambiguation page today. --Parzival418 _Hello 02:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that was me, when no-one disagreed.

• Rewrite World music, Folk music, and Roots music with reference to Music genre