Wikipedia:WikiProject Kansas City

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Welcome to the Kansas City WikiProject, a collaboration area and group of editors dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of the Kansas City area.

1 Goals
2 Scope
3 Guidelines
4 Open tasks
5 Participant info
- 5.1 Userboxes
- 5.2 Members
6 Articles
7 Templates
8 Categories
9 Resources
- 9.1 Related projects
- 9.2 Similar WikiProjects

(For more information on WikiProjects, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject and the Guide to WikiProjects).

[edit] Goals

To provide a concise and accurate record of the Kansas City Metropolitan Area, including its history, background and its current status.
To provide a framework (including infoboxes, categories, and examples of Best Practice) from within which scholarly entries about the Kansas City Metropolitan Area, and related topics, may be produced.
To provide a scholarly set of terminology to describe the Kansas City Metropolitan Area which is technically, culturally, and contextually accurate.
To ensure that the Notability of each topic can be gleaned from its entry, without the need for additional explanation.
To expand project stubs to full entries and to progress full entries to the next level.
Patrol frequently vandalized pages within the project's scope.

[edit] Scope

Articles relating to the Kansas City Metropolitan Area:

Kansas City people: Individuals from or famous for their association with KC.
Kansas City places: Places including cities, neighborhoods, landmarks and counties.
KC businesses and KC corporations: Economic entities from the area, including non-profit agencies of sufficient notability.
Kansas City sports teams: Teams that are now or have been in the Kansas City area.
Kansas City events: Historical and famous events that took place in the area.
Kansas City schools: Schools located in Kansas City area school districts.

[edit] Guidelines

To Be Determined

[edit] Open tasks

To Be Determined. There are redlinks at the articles list mentioned below.

To-do list for Wikipedia:WikiProject Kansas City:

edit · history · watch · refresh

Here are some tasks you can do:

Verify: Jay McShann (who just died) needs some cleanup/sourcing on his article.
Other: A WikiProject banner needs to be displayed at most of the associated articles/categories' talk pages.

[edit] Participant info

[edit] Userboxes

You can add the tag below to your userpage, which will add you to Category:WikiProject Kansas City members.

Tag : {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Kansas City/Userbox}}

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WikiProject Kansas City.

[edit] Members

Please feel free to add yourself here, and to indicate any areas of particular interest.

SakuraAvalon86 User_talk:SakuraAvalon86 I was born in Kansas City, MO, and have lived here for 21 years. Intrested in Downtown KC, Lee's Summit, Independence, and Raytown. -- 12:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
nae'blis (work for KCMO, lived here five years. Also I'm an admin so I can deal with deleted pages if we need something that got lost) -- 17:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Reverend Loki (Currently live and work in KCMO, metro area resident for over 20 years) 18:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
KCMODevin (Resident of a Kansas City suburb, been watching/studying area development and architecture for 3 years. Interested in helping the pages regarding Downtown, Architecture and Local Development.)
Hobbes747 (Born and raised in KC and lived there for 31 years. Currently living in Dallas but I miss it and working on the KC pages is cathartic. :P I used to work for the KCMO school district and so did my dad.)
Chris Belton native. I want to help out with the geographic side of the Kansas City Area.
americasroof Old and senile and wanting to dump my knowledge base on KC as the center of the world before I die (who else thinks KC's interurban is cool or can tell you what EMT really means??!!!). Don't even live in the city anymore but am considering a return since ill gotten gains elsewhere go further in the big Wheat Head field. Interests: transportation, civil war (Westport was actually biggest west (and probably most important) of the Mississippi believe it or not!), north of the river, history, hard facts about KC, agriculture heritage, Truman. Turn offs: the marauding "let's prune wikipedia" crowd who don't understand the joy of eventually connecting the dots even if the initial article is a stub or poorly written and unfortunately the excessive boosterists (whose closed mindedness reminded me of why I was glad at the time of leaving the city).
KHill-LTown Grew up in the Northland and a proud Kansas Citian, though I'm in a workaholic exile at Kirksville.
mobyrock Native Missourian. Live just north of KC Greater Metro. mobyrock 02:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Senorpepr Belton native 18:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Moonraker0022 Has lived in Overland Park and now in Olathe! He cannot wait until KC gets the NHL, WNBA, and the NBA inside the Sprint Center, plus when he gets rich will provided Arrowhead with that rolling roof! And KC is perfect for the 2020 Summer Olympic Games!
Patricknoddy
willyammer Native Kansas Citian, born and raised in Kansas City proper. Right now I live in the Eastwood neighborhood right behind Arrowhead Stadium.
J. D. Redding Turner, Kansas
Tesau Olathe and Johnson county citizen, rather interested in transportation stuff.
Conman33 — Brookside/Plaza-area native. Die hard Chiefs fan and season ticket holder. Most Chiefs articles are usually started by me or contributed to. Check my user page for more info.
CloversMallRat - Lived in Kansas City since birth. My family members also have, including my grandpa who worked at several local pizza joints in town and my dad who knows a lot about malls when he grew up, like when Metro North Mall was just opening and such. I luv KC!
Blood sliver moved to in grade school and love it!
Grey Wanderer Native Columbian, but take interest KC topics such as History and Education.
flyingemberBorn in Independence, lived in Liberty, school in Warrensburg, year and a half in Springfield and Joplin, family in eastern MO, live in Kansas City North and work downtown. I have photos from across the entire state and have read hundreds of sources about Missouri as well as enjoy exploring industrial areas, natural and historical locations across the state.
UntiedShoes I grew up in Liberty, MO. I really enjoy most aspects of Kansas City.
AlexNebraska All I can say is that it is better than St Louis.
Preschooler.at.heart. Independence native. Founder of WP:WPMO
User:Emir34 A curious. Wonders about Kansas City.

[edit] Articles

For now, one of our major attributes is a compiled list of many articles related to Kansas City; this allows the related changes function to help us keep track of things going in these pages without all watchlisting all of them. Please add any that are missing!

[edit] Featured content

Anything applicable to the project that's listed at Featured articles, Featured pictures, or Featured lists

[edit] Candidates

Anything applicable to the project that's currently listed at Featured article candidates, Featured picture candidates, or Featured list candidates

[edit] New articles

Please feel free to list your new Kansas City-related articles here (newer articles at the top, please). Any new articles that have an interesting or unusual fact in them should be suggested for the Did you know? box the Main Page.

Pizza Shoppe -- needs notable links to stay alive n such

[edit] Kansas City articles for deletion

Please transclude below, any Kansas City related articles list for deletion.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 03:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kelso's Pizza & Pub

AfDs for this article:

Articles for deletion/Kelso's Pizza & Pub

Does not appear to be sufficiently notable to warrant an article; prod removed, I am placing it here. Into The Fray ^T/C 03:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete - Not-notable, advertisement. Just another pizza parlor. Postoak 03:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Don't delete it.. I gave referances to it ^-^ includes a newspaper review/article and the website - and of course it's "just another pizza parlor" to you, Postoak - because you probably don't live here/never been there/and couldn't care less, well - I do CloversMallRat 03:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete, no evidence whatsoever of notability. Looks like an ad. Realkyhick 03:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

What if I worded it to sound more historic? Like, gave some history about it? CloversMallRat 03:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the Kansas City articles for deletion. —Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete - Just because references are added CloversMallRat doesn't mean it's notable; I don't even think it's notable in the street it's in... NN, OR and reads like an advert. Delete. Spawn Man 04:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete as non-notable. Sorry, CloversMallRat (t c), I live in the Kansas City area, and have heard of this place maybe once or twice. It's NOT notable. --Darkwind (talk) 05:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete per above. The JPS^{talk to me} 10:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete. The strongest source is a local restaurant review of the sort that almost any restaurant has been the subject of, but there's no evidence, even in that source, that this restaurant is particularly notable or significant. -FisherQueen (Talk) 10:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

But, what about Pizza Shoppe? It's a HUGE Kansas City chain, but it keep getting deleted too... <cries> Everyone dislikes my articles.. PS: The main reason I want Kelso's not to be deleted because it's my fave pizza place, and because my grandpa knows all about it... he was friends with the guy who started it, Bill Kelso and even delivered beer to them back in the days of beer trucks and he even worked at one or two of the ones past, and could tell you exactly where all of the 5 or so previous ones were. It's a part of me in a way, that's why I care so much. CloversMallRat 22:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You probably gave the others a reason to delete this even more. You obviously have a COI (Conflict of interest) and this has clouded your judgement over the article's real notability... Sorry dude, but this article just isn't notable. Spawn Man 05:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply. If you want to write about the place because you love it, that's a worthy goal. But Wikipedia isn't the right place to do it. What you should do is write a magazine article, or a novel, or a collection of poetry, and submit them for publication to an appropriate publisher. Then you can express your love for Kelso's and help it become more widely known. Maybe someday it'll even become important enough for someone to write an article about it here. -FisherQueen (Talk) 10:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Whats a conflict interest? 0_o I mean like, my grandpa knew the guy who owned it and worked there - it's been around a long time.. that's all CloversMallRat 19:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply - It's a conflict of interest inasmuch as you appear to have an emotional attachment to the subject matter of the piece. I am personally touched by your interest in it and wish that it were notable so that it could stay, believe it or not. But it simply does not seem so. The only suggestion that I could make to you at this point is that you attempt to establish its notability. A visit to the local library might be in order to see if there is any significant news coverage, if the company has played a significant role in local history, etc. I looked on Yahoo!, Google, Google News and Google's News Archives, but was unable to find anything that changed my mind. Please see verifiability and conflict of interest, notability guidelines and notability guidelines for companies. Good luck to you. Into The Fray ^T/C 01:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I feel for you Mallrat, I really do, but I'm not going to pander to a sob story - Fray, let's not give him false notions; Kelso's Pizza & Pub is not notable, there's no two ways about it. If we say that there's a chance it might be notable if he works really hard trying to find something in a local newspaper, then he'll never be able to discern what articles are notable and which are not. We'll just end up with another AfD and more time wasted. Mallrat, let me give you a demo - Fifteen (restaurant); notable... Kelso's Pizza & Pub; not notable. Per your question over what a COI was, I would suggest you read both WP:COI and also WP:Notability. Hoepfully you'll keep editing here, but please do make it about things which are notable. Regards, Spawn Man 09:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Delete I am all for having businesses added to Wikipedia, even small ones, but they need to have a significant reason for being here. There should be a history, perhaps a major contribution to the community in which they exist in and more information on the business itself, otherwise as is the case with this article, it reads like an advertisement for the location which is against Wikipedia policy.--Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC 16:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.