Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Archive 3

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[edit] Wikidelete 2008

Description 
[A Wikiproject solely devoted to nominating and providing support for AFDs.

Rationale:

  • Make WP look more "professional".
  • Clear up bandwidth
  • Provide more debate in AFDs


Goal For 2008 will be the deletion of 50,000 articles. ]

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. User:Librarianofages
Discussion
I have very real reservations about the proposed goal. Any group setting up a goal of deleting 150 articles a day is running a very serious risk of putting that goal before wikipedia's own goals, of providing verifiable information. I cannot necessarily believe that with such a goal in place, all the articles being proposed for deletion will be reviewed as thoroughly as they should be. John Carter (talk) 01:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why, try pressing "random article" 100 times, count the number of articles that don't seem to belong on Wikipedia due to being advertising or not meeting notability guidelines, then multiply that number by 21,000 and you have a rough average of the number of articles that should be deleted. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
  • strongly oppose, this is a horrid idea and meanspirited at its core. Bad articles automatically find their way into AfDs, an WP dedicated to deleting them with a daily scorecard is an idea that should be fought. Deletionists are but one part of the Wikicommunity. Boo. Chris (クリス) (talk) 02:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Tough love, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Librarianofages (talkcontribs)
No. Self-serving pedantry and hugely divisive. Chris (クリス) (talk) 02:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - While I agree with Librarianofages’s goal of clearing some of the rubbish from Wikipedia, I disagree with this proposed solution. There are too many articles brought to AfD with little thought or research of the subject as it is. Combine that with too few users willing to make an informed decision about a nominated article and this proposal becomes a recipe for disaster. —Travistalk 14:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
  • This has to be a joke, so I will oblige: lol! --kingboyk (talk) 23:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Kingboyk, I think it is a joke. Ha, ha, ha... OPPOSE. Basketball110 21:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

This makes a mockery of a Wikiproject, its foul.I'd have wanted to have seen animalistic Projects I would have gone to the Wikiproject Zoo.Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 17:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability serves the purpose in a balanced way. Tyrenius (talk) 22:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
In response to the "clear up bandwidth" part, I would like to direct Librarianofages's attention to this link: Wikipedia:Don't_worry_about_performance. Bandwidth, server load, MySQL database size, etc, that's not your job. Leave that stuff to the developers. Phuzion (talk) 02:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Opposed and laughed at - This flies in the face of what Wikipedia IS, if there's something that needs to be cleaned/removed, clean/remove it using the tools you have now. You don't need a badge of justice, it'll just make the members that much more egotistical about their backwards idea of what the word improvement means. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 03:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Is this a kind of joke? I mean, a WikiPrject is about improving and expanding articles. It is not about deleting articles. --Nadir D Steinmetz 23:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Not really consistent with Wikipedia's goals, is it? --Tony Sidaway 14:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
  • There is a case for original writers of articles to request deletion of early versions, especially where there is only one writer and other contributions have been minor edits, which can be very helpful. Example, mine on H B Kendall where I left a note that I intended to add some photos, and then picked up and deleted that note after finding the article listed on the Did you know list. Similarly for updates of images with better quality versions of the same. I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and perhaps there is such a facility which I have yet to discover. IS there some tag to request deletion of previous versions? Robert of Ramsor (talk) 22:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose strongly: see above comments.. LukeTheSpook (talk) 20:14, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose: Bandwidth on Wikipedia is not an issue and far to many disagreements occur with articles nominated for deletion. -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 15:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Such a project encourages deletions of useful articles. While I can agree there is some requirement to stop and cleanup rubbish topics, this project encourages an eagerness that may go to far. If anyone is genuinely interested in reducing editors mistakes then consider. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Wiki_editors_harmony SunCreator (talk) 17:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose Dangerous idea, and what everyone else said. ---G.T.N. (talk) 20:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose This proposal is essentially a request for creating an organized "stacked deck". This violates the very heart of building concensus. The best word to describe this idea is EVIL! -- Low Sea (talk) 23:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
And another thing... there are already 15,000 articles pending deletion (forgot where I saw that) and you want to add 50,000 to the backlog. Holy Crap! -- Low Sea (talk) 23:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiWeapons

Description 
[A project to organise, categorise, and sort out all things related to weaponry]


A possible Userbox:

This User supports the WikiWeapons Project



Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. User:BernhardFischbein
Discussion
So sort of like, I don't know, WP:WEAPON? ;-) Kirill 19:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, why not make it a project to manage pages covering the use of firearms? You know, sort of a list of firearm-related laws?? BernhardFischbein (talk) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:GUNS? Kirill 17:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Already have guns and fire arms. Basketball110 21:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Recommend proposer kill this idea and join the task force and/or the project mentioned above by User:Kirill Lokshin--Doug.(talk contribs) 18:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal for techniques in the physical sciences

see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council/Directory#list_of_materials_analysis_methods


Interested wikipedians
  1. Jcwf (talk) 19:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  2. --Amaltheus (talk) 02:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC) But what is a portal? Can we call it Portal for characterization techniques in the physical sciences?
  3. Srnec (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC) — willing to help organisationally and Jcwf's rationale makes sense
Discussion

Oppose This place is for WikiProject, not portals. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment I don't know that this matters. There is no obligation to bring Projects and certainly not Task Forces here to begin with, if someone wants visibility for a proposed Portal here, that's fine and may help keep it from becoming just another unmaintained portal. Besides, to disallow it would be overly bureaucratic and Portals don't have a formal place for proposal. I take no position on the Portal itself being created, but the proposal is welcome here.--Doug.(talk contribs) 18:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
You can do that at Village Pump OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Transylvania

Description 
A collaboration among Wikipedia editors that helps Transylvania related articles, some of which need major work. The ultimate goal, of course, having articles at a good enough state to the point of being featured.
Interested Wikipedians
  1. Basketball110 (talk · contribs)
  2. John Carter (talk) 16:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  3. Doug (talk · contribs) - assuming it's a task force and not an independent project
Discussion
  • Alternately, if you're thinking only about the historical state, it might work as a joint task force with Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries. It would certainly help the portal if it could have separate assessments one way or another, though. John Carter (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Should be joint task force of WikiProject Romania and WikiProject European history (and Former Countries if desired), although there was a period when Transylvania was an independent principality, it is primarily an historical region or of Romania and a former dependent pricipality/county of Hungary.--Doug.(talk contribs) 18:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Agreed above. Seems fine with me. Basketballone10 23:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
  • WikiProject Romania is pretty inactive and may need to be wrapped up into a task force itself before we do this. Alternatively, this might give it the impetus it needs to get moving if it had an active task force.--Doug.(talk contribs) 16:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Social Network and Forums on Wikipedia

I am proposing that we create a designated Social Forum on Wikipedia. I would like consent, comments, and suggestions, though, before I continue with this new idea. I completely realize that this is not the main purpose of Wikipedia, and am perfectly content if this idea is completely rejected.

However, if you have any feed back, please do not hesitate to comment on my talk page.

--**macph***-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by **macph*** (talkcontribs) 22:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Discussion
  • I completely disagree with this concept. Wikipedia is for editing, and the social aspect of it... should be limited to user talk pages and that's all. If people want to socialize a lot more, they need to use an actual message board or a chat room. A social forum would just distract from the actual purpose of Wikipedia: building and editing an encyclopedia. Many people would be coming here to just chat, and not help with the encyclopedia, which isn't acceptable in my view. RobJ1981 (talk) 16:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose This is a Bad idea, it would give those an excuse to use Wikipedia as a Forum, we have a policy which strictly states that Wikipedia is not a Forum such discussions will be removed and the user warned, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a Forum site. Terra 18:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia: Police Department

Description 
The Wikipedia: Police Department will monitor wikipedia for vandalism, simular to the counter-vandalism unit but will perform different tasks and follow strict rules which will hopefully lower the amount of vandalism. The police department will work closely with the counter-vandalism unit and share information to each member's either editors or Adminstrators. They will obey all rules of wikipedia even if the rules get's changed, if user's try and make their talkpages into a forum the Police department will intervene if it continues then the member's will report it as a violation of the Wikipedia Policy. Wikipedia is here to create an encyclopedia, as such the Police Department will make sure that the policy is respected, and that user's shouldn't make it into a forum website. →Dust Rider 21:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Possible userbox for the Department.

This user is a member of
Wikipedia: Police Department.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. [your name here]
Discussion
  • I'd need to have some idea what the strict rules this group is supposed to be following are, and exactly how they would be different from the counter-vandalism unit. Nothing against the idea, but I think most people would want to see exactly how it's proposed they get carried out. John Carter (talk) 21:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The rules will be created by member's of the Department, mainly through the tasks simular the counter-vandalism unit, but it'll be based on the rules of Wikipedia and there five piller's, they'll patroll new creation logs of pages, and monitor different articles for vandalism. I'm still thinking of more idea's for the Department, but the Department i hope will be more active, also they'll watch articles talkpages and user's talkpages to see if they're not trying to make wikipedia into a forum website which some user's have been trying. →Dust Rider 22:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
"The rules will be created by member's of the Department" - quis custodiet custodies?
  • Just seems to be an duplication of existing functions - moreover, the name is problematically because a) many of our contributors come from regions where "police" has various negative connotations (and indeed, it seems that one of the proposed official functions of this group would be watch users...) and b) it suggests that they have some official function. --Fredrick day (talk) 22:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
    I have to agree. My impression is that this proposed group is redundant with at least two others. Additionally, it seems to me that the name "Police Department" suggests that such a group has an official status that it doesn't. – ClockworkSoul 15:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm still waiting for any fundamental difference from the CVU. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taskforce for Bemani

Description 
To create, edit and improve articles on Konami's music games, such as Dance Dance Revolution, Drummania, and GuitarFreaks. The project also serves to improve existing articles on Bemani musicians such as Asaki and BeForU and any music related to Konami's music games. The project will be under Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games.

Fireblaster lyz (talk) 19:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


Bemani This user is part of the Bemani Taskforce.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. fireblaster_lyz
  2. AeronPrometheus
  3. Phuzion
  4. Coredesat
  5. dj ralph
  6. ViperSnake151
  7. tsugaru7reveng —Preceding comment was added at 08:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Discussion

I deCAPitated the task force name. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 05:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

As a staff member of a few websites whose topics concern Bemani, I would very much like to see Wikipedia's coverage of Bemani topics improved, and will do what I can to help. As I am a sysop on Bemanistyle's wiki, I will put a notice on the front page linking to this taskforce to rally support for the cause. Phuzion (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for the assistance rendered. Now, I will most likely wait and once enough attention has garnered, we will create a page and discuss on what we will do next. Do talk to me on the talk page. CAN SOMEONE CREATE A BETTER BANNER FOR ME? Thanks. Having a plain BEMANI isn't going to help, plus non-free images can't be used. xD Fireblaster lyz (talk) 20:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I have a suggestion, make this the "Konami music video game Taskforce" instead. There are a lot of music-based games released by Konami that are not a part of Bemani (Karaoke Revolution, Dance! Dance! Dance!, Toy's March, Dance 86.4, etc...) and they would be good to include in our efforts.

g.m.d. This user is part of the Konami music video game Taskforce.

g.m.d. stands for Konami's Game Music Department, what was later relabeled Bemani. In this case I use it to signify all Konami music games. Also I see no reason why either box MUST have an image, it looks tasteful this way. Thoughts? --AeronPrometheus (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems great! However, my recommandations are to focus on the current Bemani's lineup of games before the older ones come in. We will most likely wait for another week before I am willing to take any action. Thanks. Fireblaster lyz (talk) 20:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Karaoke Revolution is a currently running series of games, the entire timeline of Konami games is dotted with music-based ones that don't fall under Bemani. I agree that Bemani should be our parent concern but there no reason why we'd have to wait to start on the others as well. I'm already doing major additions and overhauls to the DDR and Beatmania articles as we speak, so I guess I'll see you in a week. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 01:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:CVG should be notified of this discussion, since this is being proposed as a task force of that project. I'll notify them. --Coredesat 01:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually brought the idea up a week or so ago to the video game project, before Fireblaster, didn't get much any response. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 01:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, perhaps now that there's a discussion on the topic, it might get a little more attention. --Coredesat 02:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm an editor from WP:WikiProject Video games. Some questions for you guys are below. The purpose of these questions is to give this task force some direction, not to criticise it.

  • What will this task force do beyond what a talk page like Talk:List of Bemani series could do?
  • Are you going to have a common opinion on 'controversial' issues relating to these articles. For example, as a WP:VG/A assessor, I've noticed that the question whether track lists belong on articles themselves, separate lists, or nowhere at all, is subject to some controversy.
  • What are you going to do to make sure this task force isn't a 'one night stand'? WP:VG has many task forces, none of which are very active.

User:Krator (t c) 11:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Like what I have stated, though the main objective is to commit members to push up the quality of BEMANI pages, the project also serves to improve existing articles on Bemani musicians such as Asaki and BeForU and any music related to Konami's music games. However, this information is very vague as no action has been done or taken place at this moment.
  • Are you going to have a common opinion on 'controversial' issues relating to these articles. For example, as a WP:VG/A assessor, I've noticed that the question whether track lists belong on articles themselves, separate lists, or nowhere at all, is subject to some controversy.
I require some feedback from members in the group on how this should be resolved. Once confirmed, articles must follow the guidelines set by the task force.
  • What are you going to do to make sure this task force isn't a 'one night stand'? WP:VG has many task forces, none of which are very active.
I have been to the Final Fantasy Wikiproject and I seen a nominal rollcall on a monthly basics. To ensure the task force is successful, at least one edit of any article related to Konami's gmd must be done in a week. Again, I prefer to hear on members' opinion on how can the task force remain active.
Fireblaster lyz (talk) 17:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm just going to continue to improve and add to the articles as I have been regardless of whether or not I have a button on my user page. The advantages to having an established task force would be to garner support and raise interest in aiding the cause. As we now have five signed members interested in helping perhaps later on there will be more that makes it less of a cliff scaling for those of us already in the trenches. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 18:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

FYI: "Once confirmed, articles must follow the guidelines set by the task force." and " at least one edit of any article related to Konami's gmd must be done in a week." are bad ideas. The reason for this is that WikiProjects and task forces are about collaboration and discussion, and are not some kind of elite club that sets the standards. There's no real 'power' or 'group' in a task force - even a member's list could be controversial. Projects have been deleted in the past for being too "closed". The same logic applies to the notion of "applications" as written on WT:VG. You can encourage and recommend, but the "must" that's in the statements quoted above is not something that's done on Wikipedia. User:Krator (t c) 16:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand Krator, as a new user of Wikipedia, I am currently unfamiliar with things happening here or how things work here. As of date, I am currently busy with my personal work and am only be able to contribute from time to time. With already five members in the team, I hope we can quickly start off with some guidelines to follow on and IMPROVE PAGES!!! Fireblaster lyz (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I personally think maybe just a general Music Gaming task force would be better, but still, Konami was the innovator here, so what's not to object? ViperSnake151 15:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

With much support from Wikipedians here, I would greatly apprrciate guidelines on how to start a Taskforce and get things running. (: PLEASE GO TO MY TALK PAGE!!! Thanks. Fireblaster lyz (talk) 15:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Caribbean Medical Schools

Description 
Medical schools located in the Caribbean islands which cater primarily to American students seeking medical education.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. bstone Bstone (talk) 21:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
  2. PaddyM (talk) 04:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Discussion

[edit] Yellowstone National Park

Description 
Articles related to Yellowstone National Park, including guysers, basins, water bodies, animal species, etc.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Juliancolton (Talk) 19:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Discussion

[edit] Former German Areas

Description 
Articles related to Former German areas, ancerstrial and territorial. These include Prussia, Danzig, Volga River, Saarland, and other German areas that were taken from Germany any time after 1900. The purpose is to organize it so these areas can be found quickly for research and so awareness of the German Return to its land can be raised.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. [Theerasofwar]
Discussion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theerasofwar (talkcontribs) 11:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Raymond E. Feist Series

Description 
This would be a project specifically designated to books, places, items and characters that are connected to Raymond E. Feist’s novels such as: Midkemia, Kelewan Raymond E. Feist.. Feel free to ask any questions below or on my talk page – Thanks
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. Fattyjwoods (Push my button) 06:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
  2. - LA @ 08:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  3. Salavat (talk) 00:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  4. 24.72.109.227 (talk) 03:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  5. hmoul - I think I've read everything he's written multiple times. —Preceding comment was added at 19:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Discussion

just wondering - whether the scope should be as a task force or a wiki-project because I don't know what parent project it should go under. Fattyjwoods (Push my button) 04:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The page is up and ready - Im just making some refining on it. Check out WP:RAY thanks Fattyjwoods (Push my button) 23:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Connections to real-world objects and locations

There are a lot of ways people are making connections between Wikipedia and objects and locations in the real world. See WikiMapia and Placeopedia, for instance. One neat project is http://semapedia.org (scroll down to "latest tag sightings", and also see the wikiproject at WP:Semapedia), which loads software into cellphones that allows you to take a picture of a 2-D barcode, translate to a wikipedia url, and then read a mobile-appropriate version of the wikipedia page on your cellphone or PDA. But that's just one way to do it, and we don't need to stop at tagging historic or interesting locations. We might have a database of UPC codes, for instance, that matches consumer goods with relevant Wikipedia pages. RFID could play the same role, now that the technology is cheap and common...smart cards containing RFID chips are very common outside the U.S., and the chips are common for inventory tagging, electronic toll collection, and many other uses in the U.S.). An extensive bibliography of academic papers on projects connecting the real world to the web (not specifically Wikipedia) is http://www.purselipsquarejaw.org/2006/03/internet-of-things-working.php (not updated in the last two years). It seems to me this has potential as a meta-project...that is, it might give people a new way of looking at previous work they've done on Wikipedia, new ways to point others to the material they're proud of, and new reasons to want to polish it up. Any interest in this? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 04:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Dillinger Escape Plan

Description

This task force would be used to greatly improve their articles, and source the pages. They would be necessary to keep DEP related things interesting, factual, and informative. Their pages are dull, and the one I wrote is unsourced, and I feel people could help would make it a solid article. The reason I feel it is necessary for a better DEP page is because of their growing importance, and influence. Thanks.

Participants

All you DEP fans sign up!

Discussion

Hi! Please look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Taskforce for BEMANI. Konami has obtained a licence for the song "Pansonic Youth" from The Dillinger Escape Plan to be released and made playable on Drummania/GuitarFreaks arcade machines. You are gladly welcome to join this group, as we will be focusing on such band groups as well. As our task force is not formed yet, you might need to wait and allow time for guidelines which can be posted by you to allow members in the Taskforce for BEMANI to improve articles on DEP. Thanks. Fireblaster lyz (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gangs

;Description

the task force would document street gangs and moniter gang articles that have been vandalized to promote gangs. I think several gang articles are in need of verification. some appear to be written by gang members or independent researchers. also I have a few new articles in the making, as well as some public domain photos and personal ones I own.

Participants
Discussion

What Wikiproject would theTaskforce Be under? --IwilledituTalk :)Contributions 23:37, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Presumably one of the projects dealing with crime or criminal justice. John Carter (talk) 20:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maritime Shipwrecks

Description

This task force would attempt to improve the articles about maritime shipwrecks like RMS Titanic, Lusitania, and many others! I hope you will join and it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Participants
Discussion

So, something like WP:SHIPWRECK? Woody (talk) 12:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] University of Connecticut

Description A Task Force for improving articles related to the university, specifically the sports ones.

Participants

  1. Shapiros10WuzHere 17:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Discussion

I think that these things should go in alphabetical order. –The Obento Musubi (Contributions) 04:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

...and this message is not directed only at this proposal. There are others that are not in alphabetical order. –The Obento Musubi (Contributions) 04:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Anti-Trivia

Description 
This Wikiproject will be in Charge of deleting Moving Trivia Sections to the talk page in Wikipages since the are discourgaed by WP:POL and WP:Trivia.
Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. IwilledituTalk :)Contributions 23:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Discussion
That's also advised against in WP:TRIVIA. I'd suggest you get a bit more acquainted with this topic before you propose a project that deals with it. Equazcion /C 23:22, 28 Mar 2008 (UTC)
  • Some entries. Not entire sections. Read the whole sentence. Trivia sections are not to be removed just because they're trivia sections. Each item needs to be judged on its own merits -- which goes for any section. Equazcion /C 23:35, 28 Mar 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Removing trivia sections (generally by integrating their worthwhile content into the article text) is a good thing which I've commonly done. However, since removing trivia sections does not require any particular form of collaboration, and is not a topic on which an editor can have specialized knowledge, it is a goal unsuited for a wikiproject. --erachima formerly tjstrf 23:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
  • No, not really. It's not like we're fixing typos here, evaluating whether information is irrelevant or just needs reformatted is a process requiring actual thought and often discussion between editors. So there's nothing you can really do to create a standardized procedure. (Also, the word well doesn't have an 'h' in it, just so you know.) --erachima formerly tjstrf 00:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Korean Entertainment

We have a Japanese anime project that includes manga, videogames, etc. But they have stated that animated projects from Korea or other countries should not be put in their project. Korea has produced a lot of manwha and animes themselves. I think we should have a Project Korean Entertainment. (Sorry if my explanation is so plain horrible and confusing.)Cardinal Raven (talk) 21:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Cardinal Raven

They've also produced a significant number of video games. NeonMerlin 13:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • IN FAVOR. I lived in the Republic of Korea (South Korea) for 4 years. It is a rich and dynamic nation. If we host pages specific to one country's arts and entertainment (Japan or the United States for example), then it's only natural (and neutral) to include other nations contributions as well. I am strongly in favor of this and all pages showcasing nations' unique (or unique variants of) historic, artistic, cultural, technological or intellectual achievements.Saseigel (talk) 09:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Soul Calibur

Description=This project would be about all of the Soul Calibur games

PAH Page

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
Discussion

Obviously we would want to add linksto all the other games, and manufactorers, on each page, so instead of this being one page, it would an interlaced series of pages. Obviously, ensure that all references are cited and accurate (but you probably are quite knowledgable in the Soul Calibur games, based upon your interest). Otherwise, I personally approve if that project. "--**macph***-- {{subst:dated adoptme}} (talk) 23:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC)"

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki editors harmony

Aim: To reduce unnecessary conflict and drama at source SunCreator (talk) 17:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
This is an upfront project which aims to reduce unnecessary conflict and drama at source.
Typically would involve identified problems and making improvements in Policies, Guidelines and other documents to reduce problems later on.

Just an example to get an idea.

When a editor goes to create a new document they should be clearly informed that the article has to be notable. Currently they are not, as notabilty is not even mentioned. This often results in an unnotable article being created without the editor in question having the slightest idea that it was inappropriate. Then perhaps if it's deleted the affected editor having a bad experience of wikipedia. Possible also making drama later on to save the article from speedy deletion or articles for deletion, all of which is unnecessarily wastefully of all the people involved.

This is NOT about resolving conflict between people or individual incidents but reducing the chance of them occurring in the first place. Withdrawn, given the poor response it seems people are either apathetic, found some more important project or just enjoy the drama created by repeated conflict on wikipedia. So withdrawn.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
  1. SunCreator (talk)
  2. Low Sea (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
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  • Oh, so you're after a cabal, then? Or a political party? Absolutely not. Proposed policy changes are to be discussed on relevant talk page, and what you've proposed requires admin powers, not a WikiProject/taskforce. You've misunderstood what they do. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, it is to be entirely consensual to the relevant talk page etc. Sorry I didn't explicitly state that above, thought it would be assumed. SunCreator (talk) 01:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
All my points remain valid. A political lobby is completely unacceptable. PS: Have a look at Wikipedia:Esperanza. +Hexagon1 (t) 05:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry you are mistaken. This proposal is nothing like Wikipedia:Esperanza which is or was some sort of support group, the complete opposite in fact. I noticed earlier from Ľudovít Lehen (we both edited that today!) that English is not your first language perhaps the words are difficult here. The idea of creating a cabal or 'political lobby' is completely as odds with the words used to describe this project. Please try and understand again this is a project for harmony which aims to reduce unnecessary conflict and drama at source. SunCreator (talk) 04:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Media-finders

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[This would be a WikiProject to find pictures and other media for articles that need some or more ] Freshbakedpie (Wanna talk?) \'_'/ 21:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Workgroup Swaminarayan

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This would be a Workgroup under the Hinduism Wikiproject which will work to Expand and Maintain present articles and add new ones on the subject.;    Juthani1    01:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC) and Wheredevelsdare (talk) 09:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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  1.    Juthani1    01:18, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Ism schism (talk) 02:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. Wheredevelsdare (talk) 09:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  4. Raj - सनातन धर्म (talk) 20:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
  5. wildtornado - wildT (talk) 11:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  6. Wikidās ॐ 23:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  7. Ksoni (talk) 10:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  8. Harish - 02:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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  • Shall we begin by contributing new articles - like separate pages on Swaminarayan Philosophy, Theology, Current Structures within Swaminarayan followers/organisations etc. Since the first requirement we should fulfil is to have about 100 active pages. Then we can set about improving the quality / information in those pages. wildT (talk) 11:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I agree, many new articles need to be created concerning Philosophy, Theology, etc. I am not sure how to go about creating a page to discuss these matters, but I feel that a consensus among the above editors can be found as to a starting point. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 22:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
  • It could - but its a bit too big for tht - there are 50+ articles and growing - a lot more need to be added and a lot expanded - hence a Swaminarayan Workgroup is the need of the hour. Wheredevelsdare (talk) 22:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
  • added onto that, the articles under the project will be shared by the Swaminarayan and Vaishnavism Workgroups. It's getting too big for only Vaishnav editors to handle it.    Juthani1    00:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I would at this point consider a separate work group to be a bad idea. In general, any group which doesn't have at least 100 articles is going to be, ultimately, doomed to merger or deletion. This group doesn't yet have 100 articles. As such, I would be opposed to creation of a separate group, unless there were at least five listed members, which is generally the minimum number for a group to remain active, and at least 100 extant articles. Maybe, when those minimum criteria are met, things would be different. But based on the situation today, there isn't yet either the number of articles or the number of editors for the creation of a separate work group. Particularly when there is already a main group which deals with all the relevant content that this more focused group deals with. John Carter (talk) 01:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
There are already 5 editors signed on in just a few days. Also, there are hundreds of articles to be created, referenced, and wikified. ALSO, the Vaishnava work group has over 700 articles - a few subgroups will be necessary. The above proposal should be fully considered. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
It should also be noted that there are several extant projects, also with roughly the same scope, which have become basically moribund. Wikipedia:WikiProject Church of the Nazarene among them. And, in general, we don't talk about the necessity of dividing up projects until at least several thousand articles, possibly tens of thousands, has been reached. John Carter (talk) 17:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
There are also helpful workgroups (similiar to the above proposal) such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Unitarian Universalism work group. Such groups assist in facilitating discussion, group consensus, article creation and expansion. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 17:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
While I do not see a need of a separation of this project from the rest of the Hinduism, I would suggest piloting it for 2 months and if it to become extinct, merging it back into Hinduism project. I'm not sure if I make sense, as I'm not sure as of the structure of projects and sub-projects. Can a subproject have a sub-project? As for example Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism/Swaminarayan - is it acceptable? Or does it have to be Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/Swaminarayan The cell structure of Hinduism as a tradition asks for both segregation and a unity at the same time. Wikidās ॐ 23:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree that the project should be given a chance - I believe it is a matter of finding a place within religion, as you have suggested above. There are already 6 editors who have both have a history of contributing to Swaminarayan articles and have signed on above to the Swaminarayan workgroup. Personally, I feel that 6 dedicated editors is enough, I hope others agree and we can find out a way to begin the work ahead. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 23:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Support the proposal to pilot the project - as mentioned above, it can always be remerged with the parent project if necessary. I think it should be a subgroup of Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism/Vaishnavism, where it is most relevant. There currently (according to the) 58 articles tagged as relevant to the workgroup, and it is likely that there will be many more created and/or tagged. --Shruti14 t c s 19:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I would agree with Shruti14 - it needs to be under the Vaishnavism umbrella. Wheredevelsdare (talk) 19:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe we should hold off on this idea until a few more articles are created to be on the safe side. I would like to thank everyone who gave there opinion about this project. Thanks. If any think the project should be made now, please add your opnions under this    Juthani1   tcs 20:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject:Fablehaven

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[A Project on the Fablehaven Series of books to expand the knowledge of these books, and the information in these articles or the related articles of the Fablehaven series of books.] ; --18:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)Jabba78 (talk)
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  1. --Jabba78 (talk) 18:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. --Jibajabba 20:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.81.77 (talk)
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[edit] Myst task force

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A task force of the Wikiproject Video games dedicated to rewriting and then maintaining all articles related to the Myst franchise. This group would be dealing with those articles relating to the games, books, soundtracks, etc. The task force is necessary because many of the articles that would be within the scope of this project are in need of reorganization and rewriting, and there are currently two WikiProjects claiming that the pages are within their scope (WP:VG and WP:ADVENTURE). Creating the task force under the Video games project will resolve the ambiguity and will allow editors to coordinate their efforts more easily. Currently, I am seeing over 50 articles that would qualify for the scope of this project, which is too many articles for one person to efficiently and judiciously reorganize and rewrite single-handedly. — OranL (talk) 06:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
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  1. OranL (talk)
  2. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) - the cruft has to be cleaned up and the games polished, so why not.
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  • From what I can tell, ADVENTURE is just a sub-project of VG; therefore, wouldn't it be more worth your while to add the task force to ADVENTURE instead? Indeed, I am seeking clarification on reasoning for VG and not ADVENTURE. --Izno (talk) 06:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
  • You're right in that it is too much for a single person, but looking over those 50 articles I can see a lot of in-universe articles which may not even meet notability requirements, and I'm sure some of the cruft could be removed, and perhaps some mergers are in order, then maybe it wouldn't be as daunting. It's like cleaning up a dirty house. You don't just rearrange the junk that has pilled up, you throw most of it away to let you have more room for the stuff you do need. And I also agree that it probably should be under WP:ADVENTURE per Izno's argument.-- 06:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
    • The main reason I don't want it to be a task force under WP:ADVENTURE is because WP:VG is much more organized and seems to be much more active, and therefore much more helpful. It can be a part of either project, but I would rather have a group that is active and helpful. I can do this by myself and simply use peer review and other help from WP:ADVENTURE or WP:VG, but I wouldn't mind the collaboration if more people are interested in really cleaning out these pages. — OranL (talk) 20:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
      • I'll grant you that, however, what's to happen if people continue to think that ADVENTURE is actually inactive? I advise leaving a note on both WT:ADVENT and WT:VG inviting them to this conversation. I don't care either way where it ends up, as I think it a suitable task force for either, but it seems to me that the more focused Wikiproject would be the better choice for it. --Izno (talk) 02:51, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Philanthropy

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A project aimed at improving all articles about organizations and people who exhibit an altruistic concern for human welfare and advancement, usually manifested by donations of money, property, or work to needy persons. Worthy articles like United Way of America and Boys & Girls Clubs of America suffer because they don't receive the attention that an applicable WikiProject would provide. Moreover, other similar organizations (e.g., Boy Scouts of America) and charitable people (e.g., Bono, Oprah, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates) need an umbrella WikiProject. WP Human Rights is too specific while WP Organizations is too general.
I have experience leading WPs and would be willing to be bold and get such a project going, but I'd like to see if there are any major things I'm not thinking of and what others' interests in the tentative project may be. Thanks! Eustress (talk) 01:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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While I'm not interested in joining such a project, I think it is a wonderful idea for a wikiproject. --Izno (talk) 05:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Protestantism and Messianic Judaism

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A project aimed at creating and improving articles about Protestant Christian faiths and Messianic Judaism. Danielaustinhall12 (Go Wolverines!) 19:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] WikiProject Barbarians

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A project aimed at maintaining and creating arcticles on barbarians. Includes such tribes as the Huns, Visigoths and Ostrogoths, Alans, Vandals, Mongols, and many more. Please visit the project page at WikiProject Barbarians.--Pecopteris (talk) 15:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
You might want to define barbarian a bit. If you are referring to those who contributed to the downfall of the Roman empire, you might add the Picts, Scots, and Irish. By the way, I saw on the page you listed them as "tribes," which probably doesn't apply to groups such as "Scythian," and several others, as each refers to a group of tribes. Just some sugesstions. If you work on it a bit, I might be interested. ---G.T.N. (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok -G.T.N., I will work on this some. Thank you very much for your suggestions! Hope to see you there!--Pecopteris (talk) 11:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
All right, take a look now, I made some improvments.--Pecopteris (talk) 20:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm in. ---G.T.N. (talk) 22:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] WikiProject Huns

Hi Everyone! It's me again. After I decided to speedily delete this, because of the controversy of the name "barbarian", I decided on a different approach. Make a seperate WikiProject for each of the main tribes/civilizations.

The Huns were nomadic warriors who terrorized the Roman Empire during the 4th and 5th centuries A.D., eventually leading to it's fall. This WikiProject will work on all Hunnic articles. People, places, and events associated with the Huns will be included. We will work on Hun ancestry, but not as much on descendants of the Hunnic people. Please send any questions to me. Thanks!
  • Wikipedians interested
  • Pecopteris- the bulk of my historical knowledge is Hunnic, and I am happy to contribute to anything! —Preceding comment was added at 13:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)