User talk:Wikimuppy

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[edit] September 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Pinangsia, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted by ClueBot. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Pinangsia was changed by Wikimuppy (c) (t) blanking the page on 2007-09-28T02:09:17+00:00. Thank you. ClueBot 02:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Pinangsia. Your edits have been automatically marked as unconstructive/possible vandalism and have been automatically reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Pinangsia was changed by Wikimuppy (c) (t) blanking the page on 2007-09-29T21:38:59+00:00. Thank you. ClueBot 21:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pinangsia

You have now blanked this redirect 3 times without explanation.[1] Why? I will consider any further blanking without a satisfactory explanation as vandalism. If you have a good reason to do, then you need to state it. regards --Merbabu 05:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring

Do not undo edits without explanation - if you continue to do so, it could be considered edit warring or vandalism. That your edits are on a feature article makes this more important and you should expect to use the article's talk page to make future changes. So far, your edits only provide little tid-bits of information that are not relevant to the summary style and space restrictions this article. As a new user, please be more careful and take the time to learn more about wikipedia. --Merbabu 04:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

If you continue to edit war without using the article talk pages, I will report you for WP:3RR. --Merbabu 04:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ATT, WP:RS, WP:V

I suggest you read these - and discuss any future changes on the Talk:Indonesia page instead of edit warring.--Merbabu 04:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Do not remove "fact" tags without providing a reference [2]. Please re-insert it or I will seek further comment/advice. --Merbabu 05:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

What is your evidence that it is a sharia court? Do you know anything about this issue, or had any experience with it? --Merbabu 05:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I have replaced the citation tag you removed. I will report any further removal to administrators - alternatively, you could just provide the reference, or remove the sharia 'thing'. WP:ATT and WP:V are fundamental to wikipedia - as is accuracy, and I have never heard of a national sharia court. --Merbabu 06:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indonesia

This article has been rated as being one of the highest quality articles on Wikipedia, and as such has gone though a lot of refining over a two year period. There are a lot of factors which have contributed to deciding what information is included in the article and which information is omitted. Furthermore, all the key facts in the article have been cited. The key editor in this whole process has been User:Merbabu. For you to come along and arrogantly try to force certain changes without seeking a consensus about the how and if these facts should be included is extremely regrettable. There are alot of rules and conventions on Wikipedia, and you continue down this path you will find yourself permanently blocked from editing. Its time to start consulting with the community rather than acting unilaterally. (Caniago 06:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC))

You've already had three editors tell you that your additions have not been suitable at Talk:Indonesia. I would hope you get the message. (Caniago 15:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC))

I think it is time we report Wikimuppy for WP:3RR violation. This is at least four times. Wikimuppy, do you intend to follow the rules of WP:3RR? Please answer, or it will likely result in a block for you. --Merbabu 15:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimuppy, it is now five reverts at least. I urge to revert yourself within 5 minutes or I will report you for WP:3RR violation. You are alone on this one - three editors have spoken against your edits yet you show now intent to work with the community. --Merbabu 15:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I AM PREPARED TO GO TO WIKIMAPIA MEDIATION/ARBITRATION! THIS IS A PUBLIC ARTICLE....IF ANY SELF-APPOINTED BOSSES WANT TO HAVE COMPLETE

 CONTROL OVER A MEDIUM, I SUGGEST YOU START YOUR OWN BLOG OR NEWSPAPER. THERE ARE MORE THAN JUST 3 CONTRIBUTORS HERE. SO LET'S TAKE THIS TO
 WIKIPEDIA DIRECTLY AND SEE WHAT THE ORGANIZATION SAYS. MY ENTIRES HAVE BEEN DECENT, SUCCINT, AND WORTHWHILE.

Shall we chat live about this now? I am prepared to do so. Otherwise, it's to Wikipedia mediation/arbitration. Wikimuppy 15:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Please - take it wherever you want - on wikipedia. Just hurry up and do it and get it finished, please. I'd suggest you remove your 5th revert though before you go to "arbitration". Not a good look to violate WP:3RR --Merbabu 15:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I have made NO violation. I have added good info - why are you so against it? I even tried to give you your citation, yet someone else edited the page at the same time and prevented it. You want to live chat now? I do not want to argue, merely contribute.... and it is very appropriate for any registered Wikipedia user to make a legitimate contribution on a PUBLIC page. This article is NOT the property of any

three editors here. So.....live chat?

[edit] 3RR Block

Welcome, Wikimuppy. You would appear to have continued reverting other editors in the article on Indonesia despite at least four warnings pointing your to our policy on the Three-revert rule. I've have temporarily disabled this account for 12 hours. Please use that time to actually read the policy, and work with other editors on the article's talk page before making any future edits. Thank you. Kuru ^talk 16:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

As you are now using socks to avoid the block, I have extended the block for 24 hours. Kuru ^talk 17:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some suggestions...

Damn - block's are a pain, but hopefully this will provide you with a chance to get to know some of the policies list here. The main thing is to work with people.

Indonesia is a very stable, mature article, but the vast majority of INdonesia articles are no-where near this level and there is ample room for much more improvement. You may be interested in other articles - why not work your way through the main Category:Indonesia? Particularly the Category:History of Indonesia, or its article History of Indonesia.? Others include: Reformasi (Indonesia), Indonesian Revolution of 1998, Religion in Indonesia, Aceh, Suharto. Many of these articles are incomplete - further, they lack good in-line referencing. Ample space for many many hours of editing and improvement.

Any questions, please let us know individually, or use the Wikipedia Project Indonesia noticeboard: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia. It is a good place to post a general comment/question/request/etc. Look through the archives of that page too to see what is discussed. --Merbabu 05:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)