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[edit] Categorization

Hey. I don't understand your second edit to my sandbox. Pages are not categorized, if the categories are only added as links by using a colon, as in Category:Grand Prix motorcycle racing circuits. Thanks, Prolog 12:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Is that right? Sorry if you're correct. The previous categories were showing and I didn't pay attention to the colon on the second visit... Wikigi 13:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I should have added the colons already when I started working on the article, but I figured I would finish it within a few hours or so. Then I got lazy. Prolog 13:35, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Angelina and French People

Salut! Vu que tu es français je te parle en français; Bon j'ai vu ton message sur la citoyenneté d'Angelina dans "French People", mais on parle du "peuple français" en général (il y a selon l'article 10 millions d'américains considéré comme "French People"), Angelina a sa mère d'origine franco-québécoise (son père était d'origine est-européenne mais par soucis personnels elle décida de replacer le nom "Jolie" comme son nom de famille), donc elle fait tout-à-fait partie du lot des "famous french people". Merci de ta compréhension! --Irrintzi 11:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Bonjour,
En ce qui concerne Angelina Jolie, je ne pense pas que le fait d'avoir une mère Québécoise puisse la qualifier pour figurer en tête de tableau d'un article sur les "français". D'autre part, avoir 12 images d'illustres "français" n'apporte rien à l'article. On en compte quatre dans l'article Spanish people, six pour Italian people et huit pour English people par exemple. Cordialement - Wikigi | talk to me | 12:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


Rebonjour cher collègue, Je vous signale qu'avant Angelina dans les personnages célèbres avant que je fasse une "mise à jour"; il y avait Trudeau et Wilfrid Laurier, deux québecois... Et dans ce cas là, dans "German People" Mozart ne serait-il pas Autrichien? Et pour les photos, tu les dis inutiles mais elles enrichissent considérablement un article, et elles attirent l'attention, ce qui n'est non négligeable, pour ces personnages comme Victor Hugo, Lavoisier ou Jules Verne j'y ai mis des liens, ainsi il sera plus facile de les connaître.. --Irrintzi 12:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Tout à fait d'accord, j'étais d'ailleur sur le point de poser la question sur Trudeau et Wilfrid Laurier avant que tu ne les retires. Les liens c'est beaucoup mieux mais la question reste ouverte sur la validité de Jolie et sur la multitude d'images. Je vais exprimer mon avis sur la page discussion de l'article - Wikigi | talk to me | 12:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mediation Cabal

Greetings. I've closed your Mediation Cabal request because it isn't really something we can help with. We mediate disputes- since this person isn't responding to requests for discussion, there's really nothing we can do. However, what he/she is doing is clearly vandalism. You should probably report the incident to WP:AIV or WP:ANI. They'll be able to help. --Moralis (talk) 02:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Re: Superkart

Yes, but the hillclimbing (at Goodwood) isn't an offcial MSA championship though, is it!

Does it matter that SuperKarts don't go as fast around short circuits? I'm sure a GP2 car could go faster round Silverstone than it could round Monaco, but that doesn't mean the Monaco race doesn't count!

Cheers 82.23.32.26 17:23, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Les Français

Excelente iniciative, Wikigi! Je espére tes chois avec une anxieté positive...! The Ogre (talk) 23:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Metric system

Hi there. Please keep both metric and non-metric in specifications (your edit to Sukhoi Su-35) - Wikigi | talk to me | 09:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Please note that the climb rate in ft/min is the imperial equivalent of the climb rate in m/s - there is no need to quote m/min as well - or like the editor I reverted, just remove the ft/min.Nigel Ish (talk) 11:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Why would it be a problem to display both? You have got a spec. per second and another per minute. Most people don't know imperial units, it doesn't help to see ft/min to them.. - Wikigi | talk to me | 12:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft/Units - the units for climb rate quoted here here are m/s at ft/min (or for American and pre-Metric British) ft/min and m/s. Please note that this is the english language Wikipedia so more people may be familiar with Imperial units than you might think (particularly in the United states (and certainly, a large proportion of English language sources are written in Imperial units).Nigel Ish (talk) 12:12, 24 February 2008 (UT)
The English language Wikipedia is universal and is open to all, thus should be understandable by all ; "As of 2006, 95% of the world's population live in metricated countries" (see Metric system). I still don't understand why it is a problem to you if someone post a metric data next to an already present Imperial data. BTW I couldn't find the climb rate reference in the page you linked - Wikigi | talk to me | 12:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The problem is that the Metric data is already there, in the format agreed by WP:Aircraft. The correct link for the specification is Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft/page content. Please take further discussion to the relavent discussion pages of WP Aircraft to maintain consensus.Nigel Ish (talk) 12:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:French people/vote

  • Hi Wikigy, I noticed you are the one who created the debate and therefore I presume is the one who will mold all the selected pictures together. I have one question and one request: 1) How long will the vote reamin in session before the pictures are selected and 2) I'm hoping that at least some other users vote for French-Canadians or ethnic French not from France, especially if non-French French citizens like Josephine Baker and Marie Curie receive votes. If not, I was hoping you yourself may hear me out and cast at least one vote for a French-Canadian. Few people in the world disagree that Wilfrid Laurier, Pierre Trudeau or Rene Levesque are more French in most respects than those previously mentioned. Ciao, Epf (talk) 04:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
1) The poll will stay up until no-one votes anymore (that should be soon) and The Ogre will create the image. 2) I am definitely against having Canadians on the list and at least four other contributors have expressed the same by casting votes against them before it was decided to remove negative votes. 3) It seems you are confused about what French people are. Again, there is no such thing as a French ethnicity.
Beside having been a magnet for immigration since the beginning of human times due to favorable conditions, parts or all of what is today the geographic territory of France has been invaded by all sort of different people for centuries (Romans, Huns, Arabs, Vikings, Britons and later British, as well as Vandals, Visigoths and later Germans etc..). What do soldiers do when they seize a place? They rape the women or at best mate with them and produce descent. The people of France is the result of so many mixing that to try to describe it as an ethnic group is ludicrous, think about that, this is why the population of France is unanimously described as a mixed blend of different ethnic groups such as : Celtic and Latin with Teutonic, Slavic, North African, Sub-Saharan African, Indochinese, and other minorities. - Wikigi | talk to me | 08:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • "I am definitely against having Canadians on the list..."

They are not simply "Canadians", whatever that term represents. They are Canadian nationals, but ethnically they are also French and specifically French-Canadians.

It appears you are the one who is quite mistaken on French ethnicity. There IS a French ethnic group and the French people article includes the ethnic aspects of France as well as those who are French nationals and citizens. France has not been a "magnet for immigration since the beginning of human times" as if there was some constant flow of migrants to and out of France. This makes no sense whatsoever and few would ever make such a ridiculous claim. The migrations into France have been fairly few and far between. Why do you think there are ethnic cleaveges amongst the indigenous peoples of France ? Bretons, Corsicans, Basques are some of the indigenous ethnic minorities, but the people who created the langue d'oil (French) and langue d'oc (Occitans) cultures are ALSO the indigenous ethnic groups of France (and majority population). They differ distinctly from the foreign and foreign-descended minorities. France was originally settled (like most other Europeans) by distinct peoples in the Paleolithic and Neolithic and eventually stirred up under the Gallic Celts. The Romans invaded but left a large cultural impact like most other regions in Europe they conquered, but not a demographic one. The same can be said about the Germanic Franks who conquered what was Gaul, but had a lesser cultural impact than the Romans. These three groups made what French culture is. There had been no migration of peoples into France on the level of even the Franks (which was still small) between the time of Charlemagne and the 19th century. The Gallo-Roman with Frankish (or as you yourself mentioned: Celtic "Gallic" and Latin "Roman" with Teutonic "Frankish") cultural elements ARE the French culture, common to all who are ethnically French, while most are primarily descended from the Gallic and pre-Gallic elements. This is why those who are indigenous French have common aspects in physical appearance, common descent and a common French culture from these various elements. The current population of France comprises of different ethnic groups but the "Celtic and Latin with Teutonic" is the French ethnic group. None of the Germans, Visigoths, Vandals, Huns or Arabs (they never even conquered much of France or settled at all, they were driven back by Charlemagne) ever significantly influenced what was French culture or settled there in any noticeable numbers. This can not be said about the Vikings tho who did impact fairly significantly the culture of Normandy, but not so much the population. The influence of the Britons (mainly cultural) was confined almost entirely to Brittany and the Bretons, an ethnic group distinct from the langue d'oil speaking French. Currently, France has predominant French and Occitan ethnic populations with various indigenous and foreign minorities. The actual impact of groups who came here depends generally on how long they conquered the land and how much of an impact their culture has. Soldiers come and conquer but they often come in few numbers. The Normans conquered England and had a cultural influence, but they never came in large numbers and the maximum estimate of their population that permanently settled in England by historians is about 5000. The Romans conquered France but there wasn't a mass migration of peoples, rather there was merely a (for various reasons) strong cultural impact.

One more thing, I again would ask you to please stop simply labelling the French-Canadians on the list as simply "Canadians". They are ethnically French and I guarantee you that most people in the world would consider Trudeau, Levesque and Laurier (again, another obvious example of likely French descent is their common FRENCH surnames we see here) more French, especially ethnically speaking, than Josephine Baker or Marie Curie. The mother tongue of Trudeau, Levesque and Laurier was French, can you say the same about Baker and Curie ? Trudeau, Levesque and Laurier were all raised from birth in traditional French culture AND they are of French descent, can you again say the same about Baker or Curie ? I think I've made my point quite clear. Ciao. Epf (talk) 04:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] French people - DELETION

We have a problem ! The new infobox image is proposed for deletion due to the incompatibility of some of the specific licenses of the source pictures. We may have to change some of the pictures. I'm waiting to be told which are the incompatible ones. The Ogre (talk) 14:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Merci Wikigi! Le plaisir a aussi était le mien. À la prochaine (peut-être bien tôt, ci le débat continue)! The Ogre (talk) 23:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Karting

Not sure why you keep deleting the post: Industry Organizations :

This is a valid NON PROFIT organization (Not sure if you understand the concept) that supports karting in the US. The organzation promotes karting not for itself but for the growth of the sport in general similar to other industry organizations. This is a free resource for karters, kart equipment retailers, kart manufacturers. Members include Tony, CRG, Bridgestone etc. We are NOT looking for inbound links, but making the organization a resource to karters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prosati (talk • contribs) 15:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Hi

I was thinking should we get the page Talk:French people/Vote deleted. What do you think? I'm not sure of the normal procedures here, except that I have some idea that such sub-pages are usually only used on a temporary basis. I think the thing to do is to archive the discussion and then get this page deleted, would that make sense? Alun (talk) 07:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)