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[edit] Welcome!

Hello Wikiaddict8962! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Image:Signature icon.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Bejnar 17:26, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:School Mascot.jpg)

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[edit] Krio people category

Hi there,

I am not sure that the Krio people category can be substantiated. Do you have a source saying that each of them is Krio? I wrote several of the articles you tagged with it and one specifically, Thomas Peters, does not fit. Krio were the descendants of freed slaves that settled in Sierra Leone. Thomas Peters, however, founded Freetown and died shortly thereafter.--Thomas.macmillan 21:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Scotian Maroons

Welcome to Wikipedia editing! See welcome message above. Some of our rules may not be obvious, but we don't use other people's copyrighted work. It appears that some or all of the article Nova Scotian Maroons that you posted on 28 February 2007 is copied from "The Jamaican Maroons" on the official web-site of the Black Cultural Centre for Nova Scotia. If you have a valid license to the material: First you need to put the hangon template on the article so that it won't get deleted. See the instructions at the top of the article. Second you need to present the GNU Free Documentation License or the author's release into the public domain to the Wikipedia administrators. See, for starters Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using copyrighted work from others. Normally the easiest way to establish valid licensing is to have the author place on his or her website one of the licensing release statements. See also, Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission and especially What to do when permission is confirmed. --Bejnar 17:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry Bejnar I tried to rephrase the information I gathered from the website and added some words of my own-I do apologize for any indiscrepancies I may have caused over an article I believe will improve wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikiaddict8962 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 1 March 2007 (UTC).
I agree that an article on the Jamaica maroons who were taken to Nova Scotia and then Sierra Leone would be a valuable addition to the Wikipedia and I appreciate the effort that you have gone to. I would stress, however, the words of the template: "Note that simply modifying copyrighted text is not sufficient to avoid copyright infringement — it is best to write the article from scratch." It is also good to get information from multiple reliable sources when writing an article. Often this means book research (not original research) in a university library with access to published periodical indexes. It is seldom a good idea to write an article just from Internet available sources. Lastly, I would not that some of the sentences in the original article such as "The Maroons proved themselves to be excellent fighters" are classic POV statements, and if they are to be used in an encyclopedic article, they require direct citation to a specific, reliable source. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources and especially Exceptional claims require exceptional sources. Good luck. --Bejnar 18:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Please follow the rules. The copyright violation notice said expressly "Do not edit this page until an administrator has resolved this issue. To write a new article without infringing material, follow this link to a temporary subpage." Yet today you removed the copyvio template and edited the page. Are there extenuating circumstances? You may answer here. --Bejnar 02:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] categories

Hi, I have taken the liberty of standardizing the category you created at "Sierra Leonean Hospitals]]" and moving the occupants to Category:Hospitals in Sierra Leone. Also, please do not create articles that do not have substantially new content (such as History of Freetown, Sierra Leone) or do not provide enough context for someone not already familiar with the subject to figure out what it is about (such as Sherbro Culture). Such articles may fall under Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion and will probably be at least merged so that there is only one short article, rather than many super-short articles on the same general topic. Please read Wikipedia:Stub#Ideal stub article when considering making a new stub. Thanks, BanyanTree 16:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit to Category: Sherbo People

You blanked a CFD template from this category. I have reverted this edit, since the CFD is still open. If you object, discuss it on a talk page. Removing the template is a violation of Wikipedia policy.--AgentCDE 04:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation

You may not use the words from "The Jamaican Maroons" article that came from the official web-site of the Black Cultural Centre for Nova Scotia. If you want to write a new article "from scratch", write it at Temporary Nova Scotian Maroons, as per the instructions. Do not remove the copyvio template. An administrator will move your new article at Temporary Nova Scotian Maroons to Nova Scotian Maroons after review. I repeat, do not continue to edit Nova Scotian Maroons. --Bejnar 19:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation? Balderdash

I never copied anything off any website, do you take me for a fool? I copied it off the headline Nova Scotia Maroons in the article Sierra Leone Krio people. Now please stop this sillyness and allow me to do what I love researching on various topics, thank you Bejnar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikiaddict8962 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

  • Thank you. I have marked your Wikipedia source, Sierra Leone Krio people#Nova Scotia Maroons, as a copyvio. I do not take you for a fool. Please do not edit Nova Scotian Maroons until the copyright status analysis is complete. --Bejnar 22:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The problem goes deeper...

It is a copyvio, but it isn't Wikiaddict's fault. The basis of the page Sierra Leone Krio people is a large copyvio put in by User:86.146.15.73 last year. That page needs a massive overhaul because of it - and since the Nova Scotian Maroons page is based on it it will also need an overhaul. Grutness...wha? 22:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No accusation of you copying

There was no accusation of you copying directly from "The Jamaican Maroons" article, just of your using the material from that site, and ignoring the instructions on the copyright violation template. --Bejnar 23:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Shekou Thomas

Please stop removing the speedy delete template from this article. If you do not agree that it should be deleted then please follow the instructions on the notice. This article currently does not meet the criteria at WP:BIO or WP:A. PC78 18:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wayne Rooney

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources, as you did to Wayne Rooney. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. --Ytny (talk) 06:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] School nickname "see also" articles

I've noticed you've posted several new articles that are basically "See (name of school article)". The proper procedure is to make this nto a redirect, which automatically takes viewers from one article to the other. Simply put this as the text of the article:

#REDIRECT [[Name of article to go to]]

It makes things simpler for everyone. Realkyhick 22:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Maple Grove Crimson and Osseo Orioles rivalry

An editor has nominated Maple Grove Crimson and Osseo Orioles rivalry, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maple Grove Crimson and Osseo Orioles rivalry and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 17:20, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of the Krio People

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions to the History of the Krio People article, but for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

Feel free to re-submit a new version of the article. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page. Garion96 (talk) 10:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sherbro Tucker Family

A tag has been placed on Sherbro Tucker Family, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

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[edit] Please don't

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles that you have created yourself, as you did with Sherbro Tucker Family. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please place {{hangon}} on the page (please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag) and make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. --Steve (Stephen) talk 05:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Your edit to Brooklyn Junior High School

[edit] Message posted on Tuesday, June 5, 2007

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[edit] Notability of Sherbro Tuckers

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[edit] Thomas de S. Tucker

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Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. King of Hearts 05:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sierra Leone Krio people & Sierra Leone Creole people

Hi, did you intented to move Sierra Leone Krio people to Sierra Leone Creole people? If so, please tell me and I will fix it. To comply with the GFDL you don't copy & paste when you want to move an article but use the move button. Garion96 (talk) 18:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Just a note, the speedy delete tag wasn't to remove the article, but to fix (again) your copy-paste move. The article will still be where you left it, with the Krio version still a redirect. To move, you should use the move tab. You can read more here. Best, Smmurphy(Talk) 20:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Multiracial

Please do not delete content from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Multiracial. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for test edits. If you think there is a good reason to remove material from a Wikipedia article, please explain it in the edit summary. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 04:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Kissy Road Church of the Holy Trinity

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[edit] AfD Nomination: Kissy Road Church of the Holy Trinity

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[edit] references at Sierra Leone Creole People

You've added many references to this article, are you going to use them? If you are, you should add them to your own user space. If you've already used them, or if you wish to add them after you use them, you should do so as a full citation, as explained at WP:CITE. If you'd like help with footnotes or full citations, please let me know, I'd be happy to help. Thanks, Smmurphy(Talk) 02:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, great. Ramadan starts tomorrow, so I might be busy for a couple days as my schedule adjusts. But what you will have to do the first set of work. When you have a fact you want to reference, it is nice to use what are called the ref tags. So I just made a change that si what we need to do to sort this. You can see the change here, what I did was I took something from your list of sources and put it between <ref> and </ref> which tells the system to make that a footnote. Basically, you can put facts you'd like to cite between reference tags like that, I'll clean up the references so they are in a more readable style, as I did the Scotsman reference (you can do that, too, if you like). Thanks a lot, this will allow us to better associate the references with the article, and will help readers and future editors. Let me know if you have any more questions. Best, Smmurphy(Talk) 23:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you think you can do what I asked, or should I go through your list of sources myself? If I do it, I'll probably delete them if I think the information is given by another source better. Best, Smmurphy(Talk) 15:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:African American Establishments

Category:African American Establishments, which you created, has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to participate in the deletion discussion located here. – Black Falcon (Talk) 17:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proof that Thomas Peters (black leader) was an Igbo?

What is your proof that Thomas Peters of Sierra Leone fame was born in Nigeria and was an Igbo? I started the article and never found that information, so what do you have that says so? One source says "He was born a slave in the North American colonies and worked in his master's flour mill in North Carolina." while another says that "legend has it" that he was born in West Africa, but the first evidence comes from him in North Carolina. I am going to remove your incorrect information--Thomas.macmillan 14:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I am not disagreeing that he was African-American, but you created 2 overlapping, redundant categories (Black Loyalist and African-American Loyalists) which have nearly the same information. Therefore, one of them should be deleted and I removed the one most likely to be so. Also, the two online sources, including one by the govt of SL says he was born in North Carolina, so I think we should go with that one.--Thomas.macmillan 16:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black Loyalists

Firstly, if you need to move a page to one that already exists you need to submit a move request. Secondly, It's the generally accepted practice to use the term in common use in historical documents and failing that the term that was in use at the time. Black Loyalists are referred to in scholarly work as Black Loyalists, not as African American Loyalists. And even if they weren't, they certainly weren't called African American loyalists then because 1. No one was an American then. 2. Even if there were Americans then, Black's certainly weren't. 3. The term African American didn't come into wide use until the late 1970s. 4. To someone unfamiliar with the nuances of the English language X-American loyalist might imply that these were people loyal to the American side when they were in fact loyal to the British. Please don't make these types of changes again without seeking a consensus on the article's talk page. Thanks. CJ 02:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, You say I'm wrong. Please provide sufficient sources that list Black Loyalists as African American Loyalists and I'll remove my objection to the page being moved. But it still needs to go through a formal move request so that the article history is preserved. CJ 02:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Just because I've reverted your edits doesn't mean a consensus can't be reached in your favor. And I can certainly appreciate your sentiments. If you can find sources to document your claims then as I said, I'm more than willing to withdraw my objection to the edits going forward. The article isn't going anywhere. Also, don't feel as though you can't contribute to this or any other article. I'm sure that as a descendant of these people you can surely offer other insights besides terminology. CJ 02:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Black Loyalist

It is an anachronism and a neologism to refer to "African American Loyalists". I don't know whether British colonists were referred to as Americans, but certainly enslaved Africans would not have been referred to as "African Americans".

Are there any reliable sources that use the phrase? A quick look at the footnotes and external links suggests otherwise: Black Loyalist Directory, blackloyalist.com, Black Loyalist Heritage Society.

Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names): "Use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things."

"Black loyalists" gets 37,600 Google hits. "African American loyalists" gets 86. I think the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate why "African American loyalists" is superior to "Black loyalists". — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 02:43, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

They were "Black loyalists". Calling them "African American loyalists" is an attempt to use a 20th century phrase to describe people of the 18th century. They were enslaved Africans in Colonial America, but they were not "African Americans". In order to be an "African American" one must be an American, which is an identity that British colonists in North America may not have assumed at that point, and most certainly is an identity that their enslaved Africans didn't have.
In any event, it doesn't matter what you or I want to call them. Wikipedia's naming conventions say that article titles should use "the most common name of a person or thing". I've indicated above that "Black loyalists" seems to be a much more common name than "African American loyalists". Can you demonstrate that "African American loyalists" is more commonly used than "Black loyalists"? — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 06:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Please stop introducing modern terms into historical contexts as you did at Black Loyalists. Doing so is a violation of WP:NEO and WP:NCI. If you continue these disruptions you will be reported to an administrator. CJ 10:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:African American Loyalists

Category:African American Loyalists, which you recently created, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, please follow the link in the CFD notice on the Category page. Thank you. Cgingold 13:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Black Loyalists

That still doesn't justify you identifying them as African Americans. Again. My earlier warning still stands.CJ 22:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

If you feel we're wrong then feel free to go to WP:DR and get someone else to make an opinion. But don't keep putting bad information back into an article just because you feel it's right. That's what gets you reported. CJ 22:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think an article from 1999 that uses the phrase African American a grand total of three times, twice as a neologism, justifies using it that way in a wikipedia article. It doesn't prove that African American was a term in use at that time. It only demonstrates that the author made the same error you want to. But as I said before, you're welcome to take it to dispute resolution.CJ 10:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I've made my point. I'm not going to continue repeating it. If you want to continue this conversation then you need to go to WP:DE. CJ 00:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Little context in Category:Americo-Liberian history

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[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] david george

please fix the dangling sentences, and cite the 7% statistic, so the page can be marked as patrolled, thanks. ThuranX (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] November 2007

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Black Loyalist, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Your ongoing effort to add the anachronism African American to Black Loyalist is becoming disruptive. Please stop. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 06:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black Loyalist

Please stop your disruptive editing. It is doubtful that any Black Loyalists were "born in the United States", as you wrote, since they were born before the American Revolution. Please stop reverting changes that have been made by consensus, and don't re-create categories that have been closed after discussion. If you would like to change consensus, please post your messages at Talk:Black Loyalist. It would be helpful if you could provide contemporary sources that suggest Black loyalists were referred to as African Americans. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 04:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your message, and especially for providing sources for the use of the phrase "African American" with respect to Black Loyalists. You're right: the British source refers to Black loyalists as African Americans and the Nova Scotian source refers to "enslaved African Americans".
You are also right about Simon Schama. On pages 5-6 of Rough Crossings: Britain, The Slaves and The American Revolution (2006), he writes that "Tens of thousands of African-Americans clung to the sentimental notion of a British freedom even when they knew that the English were far from being saints in respect to slavery." He uses the phrase to describe several people in his book and uses the phrase at least a dozen times. (Although I note that Rough Crossings refers to "enslaved Africans". )
I've never heard of Cassandra Pybus, but Epic Journeys of Freedom: Runaway Slaves of the American Revolution and Their Global Quest for Liberty was published by a reputable publisher and has an foreword by Ira Berlin. She writes on page 84 of "African American and African Caribbean men, often runaway slaves, joining ships heading for England", and on page 104 she refers to the British "facilitating the flight of enslaved African Americans".
Frankly, I think it's anachronistic to use a modern term (African American) to describe people who were considered sub-human by (white) "Americans". In its Dred Scott decision, the Supreme Court rightly summarized what the founders of the United States thought of people of African descent:
It is difficult at this day to realize the state of public opinion in relation to that unfortunate race, which prevailed in the civilized and enlightened portions of the world at the time of the Declaration of Independence, and when the Constitution of the United States was framed and adopted. ... They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit.
I cannot imagine that any people of African of descent, free or enslaved, were considered "Americans". But I won't continue to argue the point with you. If you don't mind, I would like to copy our messages to Talk:Black Loyalist to explain the use of the phrase "African American" in the article. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 05:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry that we've misunderstood one another. It's never been my intention to question whether Black Loyalists were in any way different from Blacks who ended up in the United States. Of course they were the same; I can easily imagine that circumstances led to the break-up of some families between the United States and Canada.
My objection to the use of the term "African American" was related to an on-going debate, in the real world and among Wikipedia editors, about whether the word "African American" is appropriate to describe any enslaved person, or any person of African descent, before Reconstruction. Many editors, including me, use "enslaved Africans" because we don't believe "African American" is appropriate.
Again, I'm sorry that I misunderstood your point, and that this disagreement led me to accuse you of being disruptive. I hope that we can work together harmoniously in the future. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 03:08, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Cotton Tree (Freetown)

I reverted your change of the redirect to Cotton Tree. There is already an article about the Cotton Tree as you can see. The redirect doesn't cause you to loose your edit.--Sandahl 01:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of McGill Family (Monrovia)

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[edit] Sierra Leone Creole people

Hi, a question. Could you cite the sources you listed in this article. The total amount of sources is almost as big as the article itself and is getting out of hand. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for an explanation how to cite sources in on article. Garion96 (talk) 10:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't know much of the topic, so I can't help much in deciding what to use. I can help you with the citing part though. If you just add the source url with http:\\www.google.com] behind the sentence you want to cite (if that information is in the source url), I can finish it and it the complete reference for you. Garion96 (talk) 19:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Macfoy family (Sierra Leone)

A tag has been placed on Macfoy family (Sierra Leone) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] woah!

Please don't make multiple articles with the same content but with different names. See Wikipedia:Redirect. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ...Notifying you that i listed your article for deletion...

[edit] AfD nomination of Macfoy family (Sierra Leone)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Macfoy family (Sierra Leone), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macfoy family (Sierra Leone). Thank you.

[edit] Lauryn Hill

Where did you find a source, citing that she is Jamaican or Jamaican-American? I can't seem to find one anywhere, so I'm assuming that it's not true. If you're not sure what I'm talking about, take a look at this. Blackjays1 (talk) 12:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] david George

Please read Wikipedia:Citing_sources and make use of the citation templates available. Your citations now consist of awful inlined external links, not citations, and a messy list of URLs. This provides you an excellent opportunity to learn the ins and outs of the Wikipedia styles and methods of citation. Especially, please note that for the article to get the best ratings in review, it needs solid inline citations. The templates are an easy way to do this. ThuranX (talk) 13:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

read the page i linked to above, and from there, go to the Citation Templates page. Both will really help. ThuranX (talk) 17:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Scotian settlers (Sierra Leone)

If I have time (and energy) I'll look at it this weekend. You can also use the tool found at [1] and do it yourself. With that tool it is really easy. Garion96 (talk) 19:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clan Bruce (Ghana)

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[edit] Robert Bruce (Merchant Adventurer)

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[edit] William Wallace Bruce

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[edit] Category:African American diaspora

What is the "African American diaspora"? Is it a phrase you made up one day? — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 03:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of John Kizell

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[edit] Citation style

I notice above that someone has directed you to educate yourself on Wikipedia's citation templates. Are you having trouble? African American settlers (Sierra Leone) is thoroughly cited but not in a clear enough manner for our readers. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 07:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed the citations for African American settlers (Sierra Leone) to show you one way of citing. I don't know how you're having trouble citing your sources, but you really should educate yourself on proper citation style instead of making edits like this and relying on other editors to clean up your mess for you. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 03:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
How did you try? What is "it" that didn't work? — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 06:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Look at the way I've changed the citations. I've put inline citations that refer the author, year, and page number and at the bottom I've put the full citation (I've also used a template so that the inline citation is a link to the full citation). You seem to be overly preoccupied with linking to the source at google books but if properly cited, someone can easily find your source without you linking to it. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 07:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Beninese-American actors

Category:Beninese-American actors, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 04:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:African American Lives (television series)

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[edit] Why are you removing links to Black Loyalists?

You have recently removed the phrase and thus the link to Black Loyalist from many articles, e.g. Black Canadian, Black Nova Scotians, African American settlers (Sierra Leone), Book of Negroes. You have removed articles from the category Category:Black Loyalist documents, Category:People of Black Loyalist descent, and Category:Black Loyalists. To me, it looks like a campaign to remove references to the phrase "Black Loyalist", and yet this is overwhelmingly the most commonly used term, both contemporaneously and in academic and official publications now. Please could you explain your apparent campaign. BrainyBabe (talk) 00:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

You have been warned about this in the past. Although I suspect that you are making these edits in good faith, you will have to seek the consensus of the community to keep making them. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

This is your last warning. If you want to make these changes, please discuss them first at the relevant WikiProjects, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups, Wikipedia:WikiProject African diaspora, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada. If you continue to make these changes without a consensus of editors, you will be treated as someone making disruptive edits and could be blocked. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 18:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I am not arguing a position on the subject either way. I am reverting you edits because the consensus of the comunity as I understand it says that "black loyalist" is the term used in allmost all academic texts. If you think that consensus is wrong, please discuss it at the wikiprojects cited above before making anymore edits. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 18:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
It isn't really our place to guess what terms will be in common use in ten years. Nevertheless, if you think you have a valid case, I encourage you to start a discussion about it, just don't make sweeping changes across articles until you do.
By the way, when writing on talk pages, be sure to sign you comments with four wavy lines, like this: ~~~~ so that people know who left each comment. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 18:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for stopping your edites. Once again, I encourage you to talk to the WikiProjects about your opintion; maybe in the end you will convince them to change Wikipedia policy on the topic. Bring up you conserns about the term "Black Loyalists: at one of

and for the stuff specific to Sierra Leone, go to

--Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 19:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AN notice

FYI, but there's a discussion of your edits at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Topic_ban_on_User:Wikiaddict8962. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Vandalism April 2008

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Sierra Leone Creole people, without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. T L Miles (talk) 00:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Hi. Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry I mistook your edits for vandalism, but I do have a couple of issues. If you're going to remove huge chunks of an article (it went from 55,591 bytes to 5000 bytes), you really should discuss it on the talk page first, give it a bit, and then do your business. Of course if something is uncited, libelous, etc, you should remove it quickly. But why remove half someone's biography? As a collaboration you don't have to be responsible for everything, and if an editor wants to remove your citations, s/he should get consensus on talk and do it his/her self. You seem to be removing big bits of lotsa articles, without discussion or an edit summary, or frankly without any pattern I can see. Perhaps you should take a deep breath and not worry about what someone told you you had to do.
Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources. You can read it and make up your own mind, but I see nothing about citing too many sources, if you actually use them. There's no mandate to use inline citations, though they are recommended for figures and specific facts. If someone told you different, I would suggest they're being a bit of a jerk.
And because wikipedia is a collaboration, we all need to discuss stuff, explain stuff, and sign our talk additions with four tildes. Take a look at Help:Edit summary and Help:Editing. And finally, with a grain of salt, Ignore all rules. Hope this helps, and good luck! T L Miles (talk) 04:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seniora Doll

Why did you remove all that content from Seniora Doll? If you want it deleted, just tag it with {{db-author}}. --Closedmouth (talk) 05:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Same goes for Thomas Corker. --Closedmouth (talk) 05:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Mm, sorry, forgot to reply. Anyway, that makes sense, and it's good that you're removing unreferenced content, it just seemed odd that you were completely gutting an article you yourself had created. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)