Template talk:WikiProject California

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[edit] Template help requested

I'd like to get a couple of additional options added to both {{WikiProject California}} and {{WikiProject Southern California}} that I found in the {{TrainsWikiProject}} template—specifically "unref" and "imageneeded". I haven't done any major template editing in awhile, and it looks like adding these options to the templates requires some of the template features that have been added since then. Could someone help me do this? BlankVerse 12:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I added "unref", "Imageneeded", and "Imagedetails" from {{TrainsWikiProject}}. The changes currently refer to two categories that don't exist: Category:Unreferenced California articles and Category:California articles needing images. Unfortunately, I don't have time to create those right now, since they may exist with a different name and I need to stop editing for today. If you could do the category creation, I'd appreciate it. Also, I will have to hold off on the changes to {{WikiProject Southern California}} since I'm not going to be around today, so feel free to make those yourself. I can make them later tonight or in a day or two if you don't get around to it. Mike Dillon 17:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Image requests should be categoized into Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in California and the category currently employed by the template should be deleted. __meco 11:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I had a little more time than I thought, so I made the changes to {{WikiProject Southern California}} as well. I also created the categories, but we may need to adjust if they turn out to be redundant. I added the categories under Category:WikiProject California articles and Category:WikiProject Southern California articles respectively. Mike Dillon 18:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I also moved/removed these two templates from main category pages to their talk pages. The templates were causing non-sensical category cycles like Category:WikiProject California having Category:Non-article California pages as a parent. There are other ways to do this by having the template never add the non-article categories to Category pages, but I didn't want to overcomplicate things when these templates are always meant for talk pages anyways. Mike Dillon 18:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] template is lacking this

"??? This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article."

I not even able to try to edit the template to see if a piece of code would work for this. :(

anyways, to anyone who can edit this template. Can you please insert it in there?RiseRobotRise 07:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

 {{!}} {{-Class}}
 {{!}} This article has not yet '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject California/Assessment|received a rating]]''' on 
 the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject California/Assessment#Quality scale|quality scale]].
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I believe this code will work, somebody please edit this template. RiseRobotRise 07:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

It already has that messaging. What makes you think it doesn't work? Mike Dillon 15:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't see that message appearing, please tell me how to have it be displayed?

What do I need to put after class=?

WikiProject California This article is part of WikiProject California, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to California on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the project page to join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.

-RiseRobotRise 21:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

You can put: FA, A, B, Start, Stub, or NA. See the quality scale for the meaning of each. I guess the issue is that this template doesn't include a call to action when no class is provided, which is by design. Mike Dillon 21:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please use another image

The image used in this template has to be deleted on Commons, see: commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Road Sign Welcome to California.jpg Please use another image. --ALE! 13:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

  • It hasn't been deleted yet. Those who care you go comment on the commons. --evrik (talk) 19:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
    • It's inevitable -- the GFDL claim on the photograph of the artwork is moot, since the artwork itself was never released under GFDL. Commons doesn't allow fair use; even if we upload the image locally, fair use in templates is barred as well (see WP:C and WP:FU). Sorry. Luna Santin 19:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
A few options I dug up pretty quick:
  1. (state seal) commons:Image:Seal of California.png
  2. (state quarter) commons:Image:2005 CA Proof.png
  3. (state flag) commons:Image:Flag of California.svg
  4. (US map, CA highlight) commons:Image:Map of USA highlighting California.png
Any preference? Luna Santin 19:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
The California flag gets used for just about everything California related (stubs, etc.), but it's probably as good as anything for this template. BlankVerse 11:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Before we make any changes ... it's not inevitable, as the image should be either gdfl or pd. --evrik (talk) 16:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
    • I agree somewhat -- if the image is kept, I rather like it. If it's not kept, though, it wouldn't hurt to have a backup in mind (image redlinks on countless pages look bad, so the quicker we have a replacement ready, even if we don't need it, probably the better). Luna Santin 19:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
      • My personal opinion is that I think that the image should be replaced, no matter what happens in the Commons deletion debate. I've never been happy with the sign because I don't think it looks that good when shrunk for the template. BlankVerse 23:44, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
        • Fair enough. It'd be a nice effect if all the state projects used whatever equivalent of Image:Map of USA highlighting California.png, I think. Barring that, the flag scales well. Any other opinions? – Luna Santin (talk) 07:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
          • I prefer the flag. The California contour image might be good if it were rotated counter-clockwise. Mike Dillon 15:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

What's a matter Mike, you don't like arbitrary norths? Who says it has to be at the top of the page anyhow? Umm, are we using this somewhere, because it needs a north attached, or it needs rotated about 25 degrees counter-clockwise to be used anywhere in Wikipedia, or maybe some could explain why not? Any image is fine with me, although I echo Mike's concerns on the outline if used. A really nice California poppy would be great, too. KP Botany 03:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I like my north to point up ;) I guess the California image was extracted from a map projection that covered the whole continental U.S. Mike Dillon 03:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Mentioned this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California in the hopes of getting more project members involved in the discussion. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I prefer... none, I think. I hate to sound like a whiner, but the flag is used by everything else, so I think it's "used up." The map seal is "too busy," and I think like the current image will look "odd" when shrunk. The gold California will confuse people with the projection (but I get it). And I really think that the whole US map makes us look seperatist, or at least eliteist. What about the county map below? —ScouterSig 17:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I like the county map. KP Botany 02:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gallery of proposed images

[edit] Resolution

Image:Road Sign Welcome to California.jpg has been restored and tagged as PD. There should be no further issues with it. --evrik (talk) 18:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replacing commons image

Hey, please replace Image:Crystal 128 kdmconfig.png with Image:Crystal 128 kuser.png as I will be deleting the former later today. Thanks, Yonatan talk 08:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Resolved, the edit was already made. CMummert · talk 14:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)