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Talk up through 2003

I often explain a wiki to people as the web equivalent of a grafitti wall. Would this analogy be worth putting here?Yahoo!

'Media:We would like to know more about wiki.Yes' Where can We find sexy info? We don't think this has been settled, so I'm not daring to modify the text, but I think Wiki the proper noun should refer to a page on the World Wide Web, while wiki the common noun refers to wikis not accessible from the Internet. That's how I explained the difference between Web and web in that article, anyway. <>< tbc

Could be, but it would be nformation to me. --LMS

Somebody rewrote the text of this article pretty radically, on the premise that "WikiWiki" straightforwardly means Ward's Wiki, which, in my idiolect anyway, it doesn't always and indeed rarely does. But I'm not surprised that some people think it does mean that or should mean that. If someone with more experience on wikis insists that "Wiki" capitalized is usually understood to mean "Ward's Wiki," that should be in the article (it already is, I guess).

More generally, I think this article needs another huge rewrite. The changes I made were made very quickly. Wiki the software, wiki the culture, the history of wiki, etc., there are many topics that need to be covered here. --LMS Χ

Moved from the "comment" section by Tim Starling:

I added a link to what seems to be the real WhyClublet. The one under the Wiki Communites is just an edittable page. Hopefully I picked the right thing to add....

Hey, "Edit this page" is a nice feature to modify the page... -Raghu Tallam

i suppose in the sense that anyone can start new pages. but the main feature of a wiki is that anything can be edited. should probably be changed to reflect that -- Tarquin

I was wondering which if any aspects of wikidom have been implemented in ways that do not require internet access, as have things like usenet, mail, and their substrate uucp.

provide much info. Jay 21:38, Sep 16, 2003 (UTC)

List of references added circa this edit is not really appropriate here, since many of them are about wikipedia in particular, as opposed to wiki in general. I would remove most of them. 156.56.122.50 17:48, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

That makes no sense. Wikipedia is by far the largest wiki, so it is a good (and popular) example for studying wikis.—Eloquence 18:26, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I'm curious as to what the larger wikis referred to in the controlling users section are all about. As far as I know, the largest wikis are wikipedia, which is somewhat idiosyncratic, and the original C2 wiki, which does not fit the description given.

Simple installation, and it works! Thank you for this Wiki BozMo(talk) deleted German spam link here

For those who are wondering, I believe the text in the comparison table is from Isaac Asimov's Foundation. Tualha 15:33, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Wiki (pronounced "wickee") is also a common forename among female Maori in New Zealand.

This is completely irrelevant to this article as wikis are not named after the Maori first name. So at best it is a disambiguation -- but we do not disambiguate terms which we do not write articles about, and we generally don't write articles about first names, Maori or otherwise. So I removed it.—Eloquence 04:34, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

I snipped the following paragraph from the article for the reasons given above:

In Maori Wiki means "weekend" and, as the diminutive form of Wikitoria, the Maori version of Victoria, is a popular Christian name.

chocolateboy 16:37, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yeesh, always wondered why it was called Wiki. :-P

why, of course everyone knows that Wiki really stands for Web-Initiated-Knowledge-Interface. -buzzjazz

bhosdo

I think that this wiki topic on wikipedia needs a section about wikis being used by businesses. Also, I would like to have a discussion with those interested about this topic because I am working on creating a business proposal to the company I work for regarding wikis. Any thoughts on these topics I have mentioned above. (Maxbolster 21:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

Webster's Third International Dictionary says "weekee"

When I first saw the word wikipedia, I thought it was Y-key similar to Y-key-key. "weekee, weekee" sounds similar to quickly, quickly showing that Hawaiian has somehow been influenced be English.

Pronunciation

I corrected the pronounciation note from "weekee" to "wicky", because that's how it's pronounced. In doing so I had to remove the SAMPA reference because I know nothing about SAMPA and so couldn't be sure if the reference made any sense in the light of my correction. Someone who knows might want to look at that. --Earle Martin 22:13, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

What is the source for this pronounciation? The first wiki says wee-kee, see http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiWikiWebFaq pstudier 08:03, 2004 May 20 (UTC)
Well, I must say I've only ever heard it pronounced "wicky" - maybe "weekee" is correct for the original Hawaiian word, but who gets to choose the "correct" way of saying it in the WikiWikiWeb sense? There are certainly some things that rely on the "newer" pronounciation - puns like "QWiki", for instance - and "Wikipedia" seems to come out as either "Wicca-pedia", "Wicky-pedia" or "Wickih-pedia" (never, AFAIK, "Weekee-pedia"). But I don't know what "the wider world" does, or even how you'd find out... - IMSoP 14:13, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
I've always pronounced/thought of it as "weekee-pedia" (and the general term as "weekee-weekee"). I would never have used "wicky" - that just seems wrong to me, and I never even thought that someone would pronounce it differently until I saw this. Maybe we should have a poll, and see what the prevailing pronunciation is - we'll probably find nearly everyone's calling it the "why-key-pedia", or something... -- DrBob 19:00, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Heh, just goes to show - maybe we should just list both pronounciations as in general usage. Out of interest, one context in which this came up was when Jimbo was interviewed on Newsweek (sound file available here) - they started off saying "Wickuh-pedia" and gradually shifted toward "Whicky-pedia". And now I listen again, he did in fact say "wiki", as "wicky"; but that doesn't prove anything except how he uses it - I guess Ward Cunningham would pronounce it "Weekee", hence the FAQ linked above... IMSoP 19:19, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
I added back the "weekee" pronunciation, so now it lists both. Someone who knows what they're doing with SAMPA might like to add that back. -- DrBob 21:33, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
Could somebody please convert my "old standard" pronunciation guide to IPA? I'm not at a point where I understand IPA. Thanks. — Stevie is the man! Talk | Contrib 01:14, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Language, like a wiki, is formed by consensus. Language is a movement that evolves over time. There is no such thing as "proper English." English itself evolved from Proto-Germanic, and Proto-Germanic evolved from Proto-Indo-European. Language evolution is still happening! It is a slow and consistent process. One day the the phrase "have to" will become "hafta," and perhaps "haffa" after that. The Hawaiian pronouncation of "wiki" does not matter--the "correct" pronouncation is the one that is most popular--the one decided by consensus. Squideshi 21:29, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I believe that in Hawai'i it would actually be pronounced "VeeKee". Just an FYI, NOGI (not of great importance.)

I cut this text: "But the history of every individual wiki is faithfully preserved in its collective page histories." Wikis vary considerably in their handling of page history, with many of the most influential wikis purging page history with considerable regularity. UninvitedCompany 20:05, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Wiki communities section

Currently over forty wikis are listed in the Wiki communities section of the article. I believe this is too many and it will likely grow even bigger in the future. What I suggest is either the number is reduced to say five representative Wikis or else the list is spun off into its own article e.g. List of Wikis or List of Wiki websites. Currently I am favouring the second option. Also what is the plural of Wiki? As it comes from a polynesian language, then I would guess that Wiki is the plural. -- Popsracer 04:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I agree. It's a long list of many wiki: list of wiki. It seems redundant to keep more-or-less identical lists (here and WorldWideWiki: SwitchWiki), Biggest wikis ... but how should I choose "representative" wiki ? Won't someone be upset they were left out ? -- DavidCary 19:06, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wiki History

I removed the following paragraph because I :-

Most wiki history is purposely lost (or ignored), as the wiki nature is to forget the past, and what [sic] known is often only known as lore through an oral tradition. [ original version ]

chocolateboy 19:48, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Lots of vandals visiting the page lately. Wonder why. Jay 19:25, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)


I've heard that wiki is actually an acronym for "What I Know Is". Is this true? And if so, should it not be mentioned here?

i believe that is what would be called a backronym.12.47.223.8 22:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Wiki Trivia-

Sophie (The Last of the Red Hot Mamas) Tucker recorded a song with near-risque lyrics rendered with Mae West-type suggestiveness called "Makin' Wicky-Wacky Down in Waikiki" The song is attributed to Lane, Hoffman, Curtis, Powell and Cavanaugh. Find it, listen and enjoy.

Updated image for history comparison

I updated the image for history comparison with this PNG to replace this JPG version. I used the exact same content as the original image, just saved it as a PNG for greater legibility. --Patik 04:08, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

Opening Sentence

Could I invite someone to try to improve the opening sentence. I've tried and cannot get something perfect but the "others" at the end is a bit vague. "editing is open to a wide group of people, often everybody"?--BozMo|talk 13:03, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

HTML entities instead of real quotes in markup comparison?

There is a slight problem with the markup comparison table. It would be more correct to show that in HTML, quotation marks are more accurately represented by &quot;; this would further show the advantage of wiki-type markup.

What's the Difference?

Can anyone tell me what a wiki can do that Microsoft Frontpage cannot? We have an experimental wiki running at my company, and my boss keeps asking why we don't use the WYSIWYG Frontpage instead of the weird wiki markup. It does seem like Frontpage can do everything a wiki can do, and maybe more easily! Jlloganiii

The thing is that Microsoft FrontPage is a computer program, while a wiki is a Web site that is editable by users. If you want, you can edit a Web page with FrontPage and then convert it to a Web page that has a format suitable for a wiki. 2004-12-29T22:45Z 21:54, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

The Frontpage service is just a software package which lets you easily edit web pages while they're "live" on a server. It doesn't provide any of a Wiki's multi-user features, nor does it keep track of the history of how a page has been edited in the past. Some other wiki features absent from a typical Frontpage setup may be desirable, such as the template system for including boilerplate text in pages. Frontpage also doesn't place restrictions on the type of content you can add to a page, so someone could add potentially harmful code, either maliciously or by accident. Last, the Frontpage client software costs money and only runs on Windows, whereas most wiki software is free and requires only a web browser for the client. Frontpage is fine for a small, private workgroup portal at a company but for many applications it's not suitable. Rhobite 22:11, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I'm still a little fuzzy on the multi-user features a wiki offers. How do they differ from a set of user accounts on an FTP server? Jlloganiii 20:27, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

Different wiki packages vary wildly in what sort of multi-user features they offer. Many don't even have a concept of user accounts. The core concept of a wiki, the "zen of Wiki" as it were, is the ability to "edit this page". Everything else is elaboration. -- Cyrius|✎ 06:13, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In general, a wiki system has all the required elements to manage users and user access, often with far more power than FTP. FTP for uploading webpages is designed mainly for use among relatively small groups of people, not the general internet public. When you put it all together, FrontPage plus a standard like FTP does not have the degree of automation for this sort of application (the wiki philosophy).

Liguistist Nit-pick

The name was based on the Hawaiian term wiki wiki, meaning "quick" or "informal." It is used commonly in Hawaii as part of its rich "pidgin English", the creole language of the islands.

A pidgin is not a creole. The latter has its own grammar and the former doesn't. Since pidgin English is in quotes, I'm willing to accept it as being a colloquialism. If it bothers anyone else besides me (I am probably listed under anal retentive) let's change it. Otherwise, I'll chill (excuse me, "chill"). --KSnortum 21:01, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I noticed that immediately as well. I don't personally care what it says, I think the point is clear. The false-synonymity (word?) of pidgin and creole just caught my attention. Bmearns 19:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
If you think you can make it more accurate, that's fine by me. I am not familiar with this matter. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:06, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
True, though I'm not sure we should assume the pidgin english bit is the inaccuracy just because of the quotes. Isn't there some hawaiian language source we can consult on this? --W(t) 07:10, 2005 Jun 14 (UTC)

I've e-mailed a Hawaiian friend of mine and hopefully she either knows or can point us in the right direction. From the WP articles on the subject, I see that Hawaiian Pidgin and Hawaiian Creole are often used interchangeably, so this isn't quite the gaff I thought it was. My own search for the Hawaiian work for "quick" or "fast" came up with two words, 'Awiwi and wikiwiki. I suspect the first is native Hawaiian and the second is the creole. --KSnortum 03:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, she never answered my e-mail, because she was in Maui with her husband! When I asked her the Hawaiian word for quick she immediately said, "You mean wikiwiki?" When I asked her if this was a native Hawaiian word or part of the creole she wasn't sure; she could only say it was more "informal" than 'Awiwi. So I guess we'll leave until some better authority says differently. --KSnortum 22:46, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Wiki" is a real Hawaiian word, not pidgin. Accorrding to this well respected Hawaiian Dictionary: "vs. To hurry, hasten; quick, fast, swift. See alawiki. Hele wiki, quick time, quick step. E wiki ʻoe, mai lohi (FS 111), hurry, don't delay. (Probably PEP witi, although Easter Island viti may be a Tahitian loan.) hoʻo.wiki To hurry, hasten."

I hope I can resolve all this. With a pidgin or a creole language, words are borrowed or used from other source languages. This does not invalidate the fact that the words were, and still are, fully bonafide terms in those source languages. Therefore, "wiki" or "wikiwiki" may or may not be in Hawaiian pidgin or Hawaiian creole, but such a question is irrelevant because these most definitely are Hawaiian words (the latter word being a reduplication of the former). See these two definitions from the respected Hawaiian Dictionary: (Hawaiian Dictionary) and (Hawaiian Dictionary). A pdf of the relevant page of the dictionary, covering both terms, is here: (Hawaiian Dictionary). This is the standard accepted dictionary of the language: Pukui and Elbert, "Hawaiian Dictionary," Honolulu, Hawai'i: University of Hawai'i Press, 1986, 572 pp. A complete copy of the dictionary, including the pesky issue of pronunciations, is here, with a complete set of page images, and a complete fully searchable text file: (Hawaiian Dictionary). Bob51 08:56, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikiwiki is definitely more of a Hawaiian word, rather than Hawaiian Pidgin, especially in the context of this article. The word Wikiwiki was borrowed into Hawaiian Pidgin from Hawaiian (Pidgin Dictionary).
Also, please note that Hawaiian Pidgin is ALWAYS referred to as Pidgin by the local pidgin speakers, NOT Creole. It is "Da Pidgin" (the only Pidgin) on the islands. Any attempt by the linguists to rename the language would seem futile to the local people.--Endroit 01:46, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

British or American?

New nit-pits, or questions really. Is US-English preferred over British? I keep running into words I think are misspelled and they turn out to be proper British spellings. I don't want to appear Amero-centric but at least an article should be consistent. Realise is one I ran into here. --KSnortum 01:36, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Third Person Neutral

I also ran into "he" where the gender of the person is unknown ("perhaps the vandal will realise his opinions are unwanted...") I tend towards they and their in these cases. All of this because I wanted to make an edit, but I wasn't bold! --KSnortum 01:36, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

I changed this to consistantly use the plural, "vandals". It was already plural in this paragraph some of the time, and this avoids using "his". --MCheney 24 August 2005

A joke?

Some also have attributed Wikipedia's rapid growth to its decision not to use CamelCase.

I see it is true that a capital "P" could collide with the jigsaw puzzle globe logo. KVenzke 15:31, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)


Can we make the introduction a bit more friendly?

Wikipedia:Wiki is often used to refer people, new to wiki, to explain what wiki is and we, at our wiki, link here in the opening sentence of our main page. However, users clicking through are confronted by quite a crowded description. The thing which seems most obviously excessive is all the pronunciation information - it's detracting from this page's main function. I propose losing all but the link to the pronounciation section (if even that is necessary, so early into an entry). It would seem a shame to have to link elsewhere. --Darrel Stadlen 15:32, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree, it's a mess. I want to introduce this to my dad, but with a description like that, I'm afraid he'll steer clear of anything with the word wiki, including wikipedia.

How Does One First Create a WIKI community?

I have the same question.

Well you get a server ,install a wiki software and establish an internet connection... that's how you do it. Wiki's just (technically) a server application... Or do you mean the WikiWikiWeb?--Kakurady 14:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Technically has little to do with it, and community is more than the question. Rossmay--Rossmay 04:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Wiki Icon

I actually came to this page wondering if there was a icon or symbol commonly used to represent a Wiki. Does anyone know if such an icon exists, or perhaps have any ideas as to what one could look like? I've tried a Google image search but to little avail -- the best perhaps being a Wiki book cover which featured a sort of 3D representation of the infinity sign, which is in my opinion still a pretty poor attempt. It would be great to have a graphic that conveyed a message of liquidity and expanse of information, but doing so in an easily understood and simple manner does not sound like an easy task ... --Shp0ng1e 18:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Words that are synonyms in Hawaiian are not necessarily synonyms in English

The article currently says,

Also, ʻāwīwī in the Hawaiian is used in place of wiki, Wiki, wikiwiki or Wikiwiki.

I've never seen this, and none of the Wiki-theory sites I know (Ward's, Meatball, CommunityWiki) have a reference for it, either.

I guess the point this sentence is trying to make is that āwīwī is a synonym for "wiki" in Hawaiian, and that it means quick in Hawaiian. I think that's probably cogent on haw:wiki but not on en:Wiki.

I'm removing the sentence, but I'd be open to a citation that shows that āwīwī is actually used as a synonym for "wiki" in English. --ESP 17:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

AID Votes Needed

This page needs additional votes toward the Article Improvement Drive. Squideshi 22:41, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Wiki concept prior to software

What about the concept of collabarative development and information gathering prior to the software application? For example, a notice board for travelers or a central place for say a village to collect stories etc? zen master T 21:48, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

WikiNode redirects here

I merged some content from it into the article as per its AFD debate. Johnleemk | Talk 11:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

i like wikis

Sorry

I Am on a Public at a highschool, our teacher makes us use wikipedia for everything as i am a senior and contributor to wiki, i am on here editing vandalism by the freshman,sophmore,juniors. I apologize for this and please keep that in mind from this IP address. I have an account on wikipedia, Lorddemon. Contact me via user talk if you have any questions - This is me.Lorddemon 15:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

To ALL : --->Having experienced homelessness (by losing an investment), I see that current "shelters" are warehouses, the pinnacle of Tokenism, the visible tip of the iceberg. Everyone needs a home, to maintain a steady balance to succeed.....homeless people are on shifting sand! "Shelters" should be "clearing houses" ...(only a short stay & then re-located into the community)... a clearing house with a built in "buddy-system" ["matching" process begins the first day with someone who, like themselves, needs someone to look after their interests!] that prevents "drowning"; for even the oldest book says that it is "not good for man to be alone"...he just gets into trouble. A "clearing house" staff would get to know the person quickly and intensely (A predator wouldn't like to be known, so he flees the community.....which is your Best form of protection!).

People would work in the "clearing houses" that know the community and its' people, like matchmakers, matching up folks with a compatable job, and living with someone in their home. The same book says "Open your homes to strangers", and with proper human concern for the homeless first..... [instead of social "companies" who use the homeless for their funding & grants, jobs and their own homes & lives.....and are themselves the other problem, besides obscene community apathy nationwide.] .....with proper concern for the people themselves who need a home, and who could fit quickly into a community's job and housing structure, and complement it..... instead of herding the homeless out of sight into a warehouse.....or, in one case, a basement "sewer" [As single men in Madison, WI are treated, with very unsanitary conditions] Everyone needs a home....to grow into a mature, contributing community member & good neighbor, with a real life!

A model of such a new system should be set up, and then used everywhere for man's humanity to man! --->>>(Old folks who face having to leave their homes, because they can't take care of themselves adequately, and terrified of "old folks home/managed care facilities", could be properly matched up with a compatible homeless person, and both would benefit!) Best regards, James Sorrell

jamessorrell2003@yahoo.com

General - A Homeless Solution: IF people care! From: fuzzwald 3:45 am To: CaptChurch

A while ago, homelessness was seen as a problem that other countries had. Poorer countries. But, during the Reagan years, the idea took hold that homeless people deserved their predicament and/or wanted it. Limbaugh's "homeless update" was symptomatic of the cold hearted, greed headed, stupid rationalization of suffering that gets de-oderized and pawned off as conservative ideology. Now we have a whole generation of Americans who are none the wiser. (More recently, the same transformation of thought is being directed at democracy and the Bill of Rights. But that's for another part of this board: "The Declaration of RE-Independence".)

This plan to aid the homeless is an improvement over the current state of affairs.

129.24.51.169NEWS FLASH129.24.51.169

Lisa LeBrecque [policy & advocacy director] of the New Mexico Coalition to End Homelessness: "Living on the streets is so hard on people's health; the homeless are three to four times more likely to DIE prematurely than those with homes! It's important for people to remember that folks are homeless all year round and not just @ Christmas!" {3,000+ homeless in Albuquerque each night <--NHC for the Homeless Coalition quote.....not to mention ALL the other cities & towns in DisneyLandUSA, where most people live in elitist FantasyLand129.24.51.169}

Context should be more General

A lot of the content on this page seems to apply to specific implementations as opposed to wiki generally. For example:

user-editable "source code", which is also the format stored locally on the server

I don't know of any wiki that specifically doesn't store the wikitext, but it's conceivable that some implementation would not, and would instead preserve the "parsed" markup. Perhaps I'm being too picky, but other examples exist as well. I believe the example has already been mentioned about implementations that regularly purge old histories. I think a small effort should be made to make it clear when certain features, even if highly common, may be implementation specific, and do not actually apply to wiki in general. My $0.02 Bmearns 20:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)..

I'm still gettin to know other wiki's

but they don't all preserve all changes for very long. I know on CommunityWiki where I'v been working lately they only keep revisions about 2 weeks or so. a lott MeatballWiki pages, too. you click on other revsions and there are like none available. so, I might wann change the fourth paragraph to refelct that tho I haven't read most of this article yet. skizznologic3.1 19:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia examples

Wikipedia is used in many examples throughout the text, but it's not until toward the end that it's explained what it is and why it may be relevant. Should a quick blurb at its first use (such as "Wikipedia, a wiki-based encyclopedia, ..." be included? Granted, people will probably know what it is, seeing as this article is posted *on* wikipedia. However, from the standpoint of the article, it shouldn't immediately be assumed that the reader knows what wikipedia is. Especially since this article could appear elsewhere (given that it's liscenced under GFDL). So I added a blurb along these lines in the article. Thoughts?

--Matthew0028 22:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree you. We shouldn't assume that the reader of this article knows or have heard of wikipedia, or that the reader is reading it here. Shanes 22:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Information annealing

This sounds a lot like the concept of information annealing (where I added a reference to the concept of wikis in the preexisting wiki entry for information annealing), am I right? (I wish you had a keyword search applying to one wiki entry only so that I could quickly find whether information annealing is mentioned in the wiki entry, for example.)

--Digression from a tangent 22:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The search function you request is included in your web browser, press ctrl-f on Microsoft Windows machines to access it. -- stillnotelf is invisible 02:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

"Wiki" in Firefox

I notice that this page has recently been protected from editing by newer users, presumably because of vandalism. I would suggest that given the uncontroversial nature of the subject being detailed this article is attracting new vandals because of the way it is accessed through firefox (and perhaps other browsers as well). Until recently, typing "wiki" into the address bar of Firefox brought up the main page of Wikipedia, and now it brings up this. Any vandals which might otherwise have gone to the protected main page now come here. It's not a problem for people like me who generally only check their watchlist, but it might be wise to figure out why "wiki" now comes here, and change it back if possible given that most people who type it will be looking for Wikipedia, rather than this particular article. - Hayter 20:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Just a side note to Firefox's behavior: when a user types a term into the address bar that is not a URI, Firefox does an I'm-Feeling-Lucky Google search on that particular term. Googling "wiki" brings up this page as the first result and is, therefore, the I'm-Feeling-Lucky result. So basically this behavior is dependent upon Google rather than Firefox. Vordhosbn 15:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree- since "wiki" is not native to wikipedia but a concept predating wikipedia i think it is apropriate that one is directed to this page for typing "wiki". on the issue of easy access to wikipedia using firefox; Firefox now has a plugin for its search engine toolbar that allows you to choose between different search engines, one of those is wikipedia. i use it all the time and highly recomend it. to add wikepedia to your search engine tool in your firefox interface, go to the search box(not adress box), click on the search symbol(usually the google "G") then scroll down the menu to "add engines" and you will find a list of search engines to add. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.72.113.24 (talk • contribs) 07:34, 18 April 2006

Poor phrasing

as users are bound to add incorrect information to the wiki page is easily misread conceptually as as users are [legally] bound to add incorrect information to the wiki page. Changing to incorrect or disputed might help bounce the covert legally more quickly. Another option: are soon bound. MaxEnt 21:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


[vandalism Removed]

Wikify redirect

The wikify page currently redirects to this page. Given that wikify is a commonly used verb? and generates over 400,000 hits on google (and was used today in my office by a non-geek) it seems appropriate to expand on it.

Defined in the wiktionary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sploggens (talk • contribs) 02:37, 22 April 2006

wiki wiki photo + wikify

deleted the photo as it didnt add anything and in a REAL encyclopedia you wouldn't have a photo for somehing like that (i know why it was there, but it isnt needed)

also, wikify redirects here, and its pointless.

Aw, c'mon. Don't be so rigid. Put the picture back. It added some humanity to the definition and broke up the textual monotony.
I liked that picture a lot. (cascader)
Man, this is the future, accept it, embrace its benefits, or don't, and hide off like a hermit or something. Our encyclopaedia can have images - it's not limited by printing costs. So don't delete it to keep this 'pedia like the old ones are.

I think it's intensely stupid that this article is protected. Give me a break.

Redundancy

"...allows users to easily add, remove, or otherwise edit all content, very quickly and easily..."

Does anyone else feel that this sentence is a bit redundant?

'Wiki' in dictionary

"In English, it is an adverb meaning "quickly" or "fast"."

Really? Not in my dictionaries! Could someone please either confirm this statement with evidence, or confirm that it should be deleted.

Hi! I could not find this version of the meaning of the word wiki in any dictionary either. (29/05/06) - I believe the statement in question is incorrect. (nor have I yet heard anyone use the word wiki to refer to anything other than it's original English meaning; ie (from wiktionary): Noun : wiki Any website based on any kind of Wiki software which enables users to add to, edit and delete from the site's content quickly. )

Nor is WikiWiki, or any other silly word

The quote in the markup/display example

What are those two lines from? Are they possibly from Foundation by Isaac Asimov? 72.40.101.236 05:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is.

Thanks. I finally picked up another copy of that book and I *just* got to that part... 8 hours too late. Damn.

What is the future of this technology (Wiki)

All are invited to share their knowledge.