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I thought a Jumbo Jet was a 747 only. Mintguy

Hard to say, Mintguy, as it's a term used by people who know so little about aircraft that they don't know the difference between a 747 and an A-330 anyway. (Never mind 777s and DC-10s and L-1011s.) Sorry to be snotty about it, but dat's da trufh. It should be Wide-body aircraft.

Wel there's an anomaly that needs to be resolved one way or the other because Jumbo jet has this info whilst Jumbo Jet redirects to the 747. Mintguy

I agree with Mintguy, Jumbo Jet is, in my not-so-humble opinion, used only for the 747. I think that if you asked the public what a jumbo jet was most would try to describe a 747 ie the one with the bulge on top. Wide body is a more general description covering the biggies but I don't think we should use jumbo jet for them. Arpingstone 19:29 Feb 11, 2003 (UTC)

A bit more info - the wide bodies are these:

Ilyushin IL86

Airbus A300, A310, A330 and A340

DC10 and MD11

Boeing 747, 767 and 777

Tristar

Arpingstone 20:19 Feb 11, 2003 (UTC)

Please not be using the term "gayness" in that manor, it is not appropriate for Wikipedia.

Sorry - you are quite right, of course. There was an anon contributor a few days back who marked almost every edit as "removing gayness" - the lord only knows why. Lots of people complained and he stopped. (I would have complained myself, but there were plenty of others beat me to it.) This was just my little in-joke. No offence intended. Tannin

Are the C-17 and C-141 not also wide-body aircraft as well as the C-5? Rmhermen 17:23 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

Hmmm ... Good question. I'm not sure of the cabin dimensions. The C-17, probably not: it weighs about the same as a big DC-8 or an A-310, a fraction more than a 707, much less than a 767, and uses 757 engines. The C-117 definately not: it's 707 sized and shaped, bar the high wing. Tannin

c-17 -- Cargo Compartment: height, 12 feet 4 inches (3.76 meters), width, 18 feet (5.48 meters), length, 88 feet (26.82 meters)

c-5 -- Cargo Compartment: height 13.5 feet (4.11 meters); width, 19 feet (5.79 meters); length, 143 feet, 9 in (43.8 meters)

so the c-5 has only one extra foot in height and width than the c-17 although 55 feet extra length.

c-141 -- Cargo Compartment: Height, 9 feet 1 inch (2.77 meters); length, 93 feet 4 inches (28.45 meters); width, 10 feet 3 inches (3.12 meters)

so the c-141 is in fact quite a bit smaller. Rmhermen 18:16 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

C-17 added. Tannin

[edit] 767

The article states that widebodies have a cross-section of over 5m. The cross-section of the Boeing 767 is 4,7 m. Is it really a widebody?--Arado 18:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Airbus cross section picture

I've added a picture of the Airbus fuselage cross-section, but I cannot quite remember which model it is. I think it's an A300, but can anyone confirm this? The picture is from the Deutsches Museum in Munich, Germany, if that helps. Thanks. Asiir 14:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I now believe it's an A300. Asiir 12:34, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

$I n s e r t f o r m u l a h e r e$

You're absolutely right. It's the A300 prototype. Willy Logan 22:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Appropos the Jumbo comments: Jumbo was the name of a very celebrated elephant with the PT Barnum circus. I think it became a word to describe anything huge. Which of course, made it perfect for the launch of the 747, an aircraft that Juan Trippe of Pan Am and the Boeing Company bet their shirts on. My submission is that Jumbo Jet refers only to the 747 and no other aircraft, and the fact that any wide-body is a 'jumbo' aircraft does not count in this matter. On another note, I may remember reading that the word 'cockpit' became a common way to refer to the flight deck after the 747, and it was a term jocularly used by the Yanks on the 747 design team because they were familiar with the roosters roosting (!) in the topmost part of any barn. All this is from memory, and requires checking and verification.

Alvin Saldanha alvinjamessaldanha@gmail.com