Talk:Wichita Falls, Texas

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Wichita Falls was mentioned on the movie Pillow Talk near the end: "They'll never believe this back in Wichita Falls." On Conan O' Brien, during "In the Year 2000" skits, sometimes a caller from Wichita Falls, TX calls in to ask a question.

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Is Mia Hamm really from here? On the Mia Hamm page is says she is from Selma, Alabama. This should be cleared up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.217.46.164 (talk) 11:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hamm's page states she was born in Selma. The section on her earlier years is a little vague. -Acjelen 20:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Mia Hamm was a military brat (Air Force), so I'm sure she moved around a great deal during her early years. She was probably born in Selma, AL, spent some time as a kid in Wichita Falls, then moved to Northern Virginia to finish high school (probably with a few other moves in between) --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 15:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population decline

Wichita Falls' population decline is not in dispute. Those are official U.S. Census estimate pages I cited... did you check them out? They show a decline in population every year since 2000. Do you have similar sources that say the population ISN'T declining? Also, unilaterally removing citations of reputable, verifiable, notable, neutral sources without discussion is pretty poor form, which you - as an Experienced and Established Editor, per your user page - should know. --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 15:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

First, have you read your edits? The article currently claims that Wichita Falls is an America. This is a considerable feat for a geo-political entity. Even if you added city, either the earlier construction or my more recent one would be better. Second, the supposed population decline of Wichita Falls is disputed, whether that decline is claimed by the state demographer or the Census Bureau. One year the city sent a group of Wichitans to Austin to plead the demographer to use more reliable data. I can find sources, but they're unnecessary. A census is taken every ten years. That date is already in the article. We can update the page in 2011. -Acjelen (talk) 22:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I've incorporated your copyediting (I added "city" after "American" and unlinked the second reference to Wichita county), but I've re-added the population decline. If you can show me a reputable, verifiable, notable, neutral source that says that Wichita Falls is not declining in population, or even stating that the decline is in dispute, I will be more than happy to include that in the article with a note about the confusion of the city's present population. And no, I'm not going to just wait until 2011; it's been seven and a half years since the 2000 census, and cities grow and shrink in that time - some quite dramatically. The July 1 estimates released each year by the census bureau are every bit as authoritative as the decennial censuses. Are you suggesting we should stick with the 2000 population data for McKinney, TX, which has doubled in size since then? How about New Orleans, LA? Again, show me a source saying that the decline is in dispute, and I will be more than happy to include it in the article. --NetherlandishYankee (talk) 23:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm wondering if city-data.com is really a "reputable, verifiable, notable, neutral" source... especially considering they are the only place I can find via a quick Google search with a 2007 population estimate for Wichita Falls. I think it would be more sound to reference a report from the actual Census Bureau, or from the state demographer (which I didn't even know existed). Having said that, I think the most recent edit by NetherlandishYankee is a reasonable compromise, as it's important to note that the city's population estimates are steadily declining. Weathermandan (talk) 00:54, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

We should note the city's "steady population decline" only if it is taking place. I guess I'll have to rustle up my sources. I do want to say that the Census Bureau's estimates are not more authoritative. They're called "estimates" and are not constitutional, i.e. they are not used for distribution of congressional seats. -Acjelen (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)