Talk:Why Men Rule

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[edit] Criticism of Goldberg

The diligent researcher should also look for criticism of Goldberg's second edition; such criticism would help to produce a balanced account. 204.52.215.107 16:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This book is a revised edition of The Inevitability of Patriarchy. It includes responses to criticism of that book, which you will find duly noted in the appropriate section. Published criticisms of the first book are not only found in Why Men Rule itself, but I have also listed those I've been able to find at the Steven Goldberg biography page. They will also be duplicated at The Inevitability of Patriarchy when I get around to it. Though anyone can do this of course, and add any more they find themselves.

There is not a lot of recent criticism of Goldberg, because science now knows considerably more than it did when he first wrote. Goldberg speculated there would be biological antecedents for male dominance behaviour. Since many have now been identified, and more are being published all the time, the issue has moved well beyond Goldberg. He is of interest because he was contemporary with the early second wave feminist movement, and his criticism of some of their theories has ultimately proved to be sound.

Feminism itself has moved on too. Were gender differences completely lacking in biological components, it would make a lot of issues nice and simple. The fact that gender differences are real and include biological factors doesn't change the fact that there are real issues of justice associated with them, it's just that those issues require a more considered treatment.

Anyway, I totally agree, diligent research looks for criticism. Wiki needs all the researchers we can get. Feel free to help out. Alastair Haines 05:49, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:WhyMenRule.jpg

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[edit] Margaret Mead?

The reviews section has a quote about the book, purportedly by Margaret Mead. Margaret Mead died in 1978, and the article claims that this book was first published in 1993. Could somebody please clarify this? 99.231.168.66 (talk) 10:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Why Men Rule (1991) is essentially the second (expanded and updated) edition of The Inevitability of Patriarchy (1973). Mead wrote the review about Inevitability, but the publisher saw fit to reproduce her quote on the back cover of my copy of Men. I own both books.

So, whether we approve or not, it is a verifiable matter that Mead's quote has been applied in print to Men. If you try Amazon.com, you may even be able to verify this for yourself if they allow a "Look inside this book".

Great eye for detail you have. :D Cheers. Alastair Haines (talk) 17:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)