Talk:Who Moved My Cheese?

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[edit] Italics

From the manual of style: "Use italics for the title or name of books, movies, albums, TV series, magazines, ships, major orchestral works, and court cases." -- Notheruser 17:30 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)

My contribution was to change all of the verb tenses in the synopsis to present tense, in order to maintain consistency. Some verbs were already in the present tense.

Nice job; thanks. Addendum: I forgot to mention that it reads much better now. :) -- Notheruser 21:06 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Twisted Dehumanization?

Maybe someone who knows more about Wikipedia will see this and consider my recommendations. I have read the book, and it seemingly was created as a way of mistreating one's employees. The basic message is that people need to act like mice, who are very stupid and lack emotional capabalities. So it's reccommendations are to embrace a twisted dehumanization process backed by management. If you're not the boss, you deserve to be treated like garbage. Yeah, so I hope the criticism section can be updated, since it seemingly is nothing but jokes now anyways. -Tran Nguyen

How could you suggest that this book is a "twisted dehumanization" process? I feel that your are simply looking to far into the book . the idea behind it is to suggest to the reader that change constantly happens and here is how you can be better prepared. I dont recognize any subliminal messaging in the book to suggest otherwise?
-Bill Rance
The book is written for "Littlepeople" - and aims at keeping them "little". It teaches the weaklings to chase after the cheese. The outhor doesn't want to strenghen people, that is, to help his readers to become the cheese movers (leaders) rather than the cheese chasers (followers). --84.150.73.35 23:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marketing

I removed this as it was not NPOV:

"Marketing

The book is extremely well marketed. One big target group were managers who bought the book in large quantities and then gave it to their subordinates. This also highlighted the attitude of these managers towards their subordinates."

Carax 03:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parabolically

Since when does "parabolically" mean "via a parable"?

OinkOink 20:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler Warning

Does anyone else find it amusing that this page requires a spoiler warning? --Vees 20:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Critizism removed

The entry <<Paul Bowman, "Who Moved My Worth? Management Self-Help Books and YOU!", 2003>> under <<further readings>> has been removed with the comment "non notable". Any ideas on how to improve the criticism-part of this article? --84.150.73.35 22:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
PS: I don't blame Benjamin for censoreship of criticism or something like that. Actually he blogged a quite funny observation in http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/2004/Dec/03. So I look for "more notable" comments on the book. --84.150.73.35 23:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I've got no interest in trying to censor criticism about WMMC. In all honestly, I don't particularly care for the book. I read the article you linked to and thought it was interesting. But it was the first I'd heard of much of that criticism. I removed it because it seemed, to me, more like someone trying to use Wikipedia to highlight or link to their own work than to highlight aspects of the topic (or criticism of the topic) that are notable and encyclopedic. I apologize if that was not the case.
Criticism in Wikipedia articles should be notable and I'm still not convinced that's the case here. I have made some off-hand criticism about WMMC but that doesn't mean that it belongs in Wikipedia. Point to criticism that has been published in magazines or newspapers or otherwise satisfies Wikipedia's standards of notabilitiy and we'll be good to go. If you can't do that, then the criticism really doesn't belong in WP, although I hope you continue to try to spread in other more appropriate venues. —mako (talk•contribs) 09:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin; I already understood, that you have got no interest in trying to censor criticism about WMMC. (Your comment on WMMC in your blog was quite whitty.) As you saw (and rightfully asked for), I now pointed to critizism that has been published in magazines or newspapers or otherwise satisfies Wikipedia's standards of notabilitiy. --84.150.94.168 12:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Great! Thanks! Feel free to summarize the critical information you linked in the criticism section of the article as well. Then you can use the links you've put in as references and not just as external links and it will make their content more prominent. —mako (talk•contribs) 05:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys I think the current criticism is very ignorant. The one saying that the main question is left unanswered is wrong. In the beginning of the book it is very clear that the mice ate all their cheese, but not wanting to believe it was gone they began to blame somebody by asking "who moved my cheese?". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.122.237.6 (talk) 14:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism section (mostly) removed

The criticism section refers to the book's supposed inability to answer the last two "possibilities" from this list

  • to search and chase after new cheese
  • to make the cheese yourself
  • to move the cheese away from the refrigerators of others

Where did this list come from? If the editor made it up, then it is OR and should be removed. We can also argue whether the list is correct (if we understand "looking for new cheese" to be the same as "making the cheese yourself"), but actually this discussion would be entirely irrelevant as the list is OR in the first place. — Asbestos 18:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)