Talk:Whitewater kayaking

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This is very confusing, in Scotland whitewater canoeing means raceing down rivers (what the English call wild water raceing). Recreational canoeing on white water is called playboating.

Jonathan Riddell

I think it's accurate, I've never heard Whitewater racing/Wild Water Racing referred to as WW canoeing in England or Scotland, WW canoeing refers to running WW rivers (WWR is a tiny sport in comparison with only a few hundred ranked paddlers in the BCU WWR yearbook, tens of thousands of people do whitewater kayaking, meaning river running). fat ass Playboating is different to either.

tebbb 17-04

Why the link to the Little RIver gauge? There are thousands of gauges that are used for whitewater paddling and this one has no special meaning. I tried to fix that but someone changed it back again.Dumb ass.

Actually, I don't particularily care about the USGS river gauge. What I reverted was you removing the USGS link and placing your own link, which looks a lot like spam vandalism. If you would like to change the USGS link to a more general river gauge link thats fine. However, wikipedia is WP:NOT a collection of external links so if you replace the whitewater videos link it is likely to be removed unless you can explain its relevance to the article. --Syrthiss 12:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] This page vis. Kayak

(from Kayak talk page): There is a lot of confusion and redundancy among the various kayaking pages. The History section here and the one in Sea Kayak overlap, but contain some distinct and some inconsistent information. I would like to re-organize all of the kayaking pages, and want to float some ideas and get some feedback here first. Disclosure: I am primarily a sea kayaker, though I did a fair bit of whitewater kayaking in the 1970s, when it was a very different sport than today.

One idea is to move most/all of the History to this page (Kayak), and then have two overview sections, one by type of construction, and one by use, with the second one primarily pointing to the more-specific pages. If a page doesn't exist, we could either stub it or include the info here. We would cover the primary design issues (which are covered in more detail in Sea kayak) here, and perhaps re-iterate key points in the individual sub-articles.

Another idea is to bulk the Kayak page up with most of the info on specific kinds of boats and redirect the individual boat pages there. I think this might lead to too large a page, but felt I should suggest it. There are probably other ideas as well. If you care, let's hear from you (on the Kayak talk page please)! -- Gnetwerker 23:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Usage of the term "boat"

I disagree that the word 'boat' should be used as an alternative to 'kayak', I believe that 'craft' is a far more technically correct term. MyNameIsNotBob 01:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps technically correct (or not), but certainly not vernacular. Everybody says "boat". -- Gnetwerker 05:25, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I am a whitewater instructor, the most commonly used term is indeed boat. Obviously a commonly used term does not justify using it, but what does is the fact it is both the commonly used term and correct (a kayak is a boat). Also craft can mean any "craft" (in water, air or space), but boat is specific to water craft. It is interesting how those who appear to know little about a specialist subject are the first to object. Bennyboyz3000 08:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Image on page

I thought it was strange that the first image of an article on whitewater kayaking was of two men in a tandem ducky and not of someone in a kayak running a whitewater rapid. I have therefor replaced the image with one of someone whitewater kayaking. Although, this is a fairly modest picture, it is a more accurate portrayal of whitewater kayaking than the ubiquitous "waterfall drops" that appear everywhere on the web, yet are seldom encountered in the day to day experiences of whitewater kayaking. None the less, I am happy to see one of these pictures are also included in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angus.macnab (talk • contribs) 18:32, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I see you state waterfalls are rarely encountered in real life. As a 5 year whitewater instructor I must disagree. Obviously you live in a strange, tiny country; don't paddle interesting rivers (i.e. grade III and above); or paddle the placid, docile parts of rivers. I don't think I've ever been on a whitewater grade III river section without a waterfall and some good grade V+ sections, and I've paddled in 7 countries. Bennyboyz3000 09:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page Name

It should be moved to Whitewater Kayaking with a capital K...DevAnubis 21:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree whole-heartedly, perhaps someone with a bit more time on their hands could help out. Bennyboyz3000 09:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
The way the software is set up means that upper case automatically redirects to lower case if the former is not present, so as it is not a proper noun it does not need a capital letter.

Article merged: See old talk-page here DigitalCatalyst 14:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)