Talk:White van speakers

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please discuss the factuality of the removal of such unattributed sources.

I really can't understand what you write, either your statement above or the material you keep adding to this article. This time, instead of deleting all of the unreadable mess, I attempted to edit & keep what little I could understand and was not just your opinion. Foetusized (talk) 02:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


opinion is a description of how a **"multi level Marketing"** scheme exists. trade secrets are secrets, i suggest deceit being exposed is not mess. what speaker company you work for.

Innovative Sound Concepts

1121 Edgewater Ave, Ridgefield, NJ 07657-2139, United States Phone: (201) 941-7091 SIC:Electrical Apparatus and Equipment Wiring Supplies, and Construction Materials Line of Business:Whol Electrical Equipment

I hate to break this to you, but you are not exposing anything. Text like "The speaker trade is a large business or scam as called nationwide international and abroad it is an apparatus of monopoly." doesn't expose or illuminate anything, because it fails to follow basic rules of punctuation and grammar, and no one but you can tell what you were attempting to say. Keeping this article factual and readable is the best way to keep people informed.
Not that it makes any difference, but I'm a state employee who repairs vintage speakers as a hobby. Foetusized (talk) 00:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


so fix the spelling and leave the facts, Stalin. get a job as a white van man and break it to yourself.
What facts? Facts require citation, as original research is not allowed. WP:NOR There's a difference between spelling errors and meaningless gibberish with no identifiable facts; the sentence I quoted above is all spelled correctly, but still conveys no understandable meaning (some commas might help, but it is hard to tell). Your failure to communicate effectively is your issue, not mine. Foetusized (talk) 14:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


A similar scam occured recently in two separate offices that I've worked. A man (usually young, college aged)in paint-stained clothes walks from office to office in a highrise building claiming to be a worker in a redecorating project on "the fifteenth floor" or some other. They said something along the lines of "We were supposed to get 6 of these paintings, but we got 6 cases!" Very similar scam, where the marks tend to be women rather than men.

I was surprized to see that the "White Van Scam" was still around! I remember seeing them in the late 1970's in southern California. They were in every major parking lot searching for victims. Soapy 15:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

A scam survives as long as there is at least ONE person able to fall for it. Anyway, what is with that whole 'beer money' sentence at the end of the fouth paragraph? It doesn't mean anything. I'm removing it. Smith Jones 17:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

- My friend was a victim of this scam today (4/10/07) in Boston- Two twenty something year old kids from New Hampshire sold him Matrix Audio Concept Speakers for $200, claiming the speakers were valued at $2800... and they told him it was such a good deal that he should buy them a beer if they ever run into eachother again!! They claimed they were in Beacon Hill installing audio equipment and had one high end speaker set left over....


RE: location of oklahoma city warehouse, vehicles, and corporation phone numbers as of Jan. 2005

i worked for these guys two years ago and i feel sorry for anybody who was scammed and will be scammed.

the oklahoma city warehouse as of 2 years ago 436 N Rockwell Ave. right off of Rockwell and Melrose Ave.

Vehicles Used: Two white vans, one grey van with chrome rims, a red '99 ford explorer. All with texas plates.

Speaker brand: Theater Research

Corp. Numbers:
North Corp. 405-787-9400 436 N Rockwell Ave. Oklahoma City, OK 73127-6119
Central Corp. 817-590-0604 2663 Gravel Dr. Fort Worth, TX 76118-6965
South Corp. 561-615-4544 6917 Vista Pkwy N West Palm Beach, FL 33411-2708
North and Central Corp are AP S&S (American Pride Sounds & Solutions)
South Corp. is Home Audio For Less Inc.

the invoices they show you list the company as "GoldCoast" something or other...
Again this information is from 2005 so things may have changed or moved. These speakers come on a pallet stacked 8-10 feet high and each speaker is roughly worth only $60-$80 (not a typo)

By the way, the beer money thing... was just a way to get a little extra money, also at the end of the sale they usually said "next time im in town we should have a beer together" also when opening a brand new sealed box to show to a potential buyer, for instance on the sub-woofers, the salesperson would reach their finger into the port and snap a wire or two, or poke holes in the speaker cone with a pen, or other sharp object intentionally damaging the product. I hope this helps some of you out.
If have any other questions or want to send a thank you please direct all email to: satad3str0y3r@yahoo.com
Please Put "White Van Scam" in the subject.
Thank You,
SATA DESTROYER


I know this isnt the place, but i had this scam tried on me twice, even in my little town. It was really uncanny reading this article, coz its EXACTLY how it happened to me. Twice. Woulda fallen for it too, but my better half advised against it.--Dinny McGee 12:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "White Van Speaker Scam"

I had this scam pulled on me twice about ten years apart. It was the same sales pitch, but different names(Acoustic & Kirsch). I recently purchased Klipsch speakers and informed the "speaker guy" of this,but he continued with his pitch. I asked him why I should purchase a knock-off when I have the real thing at home. He then began thumbing through an audio magazine I had never heard of, and even told me that I probably never heard of it because it was so high end. He saw that I was not going buy them for myself so he suggested that I buy them for a loved one because it was such "a smoking deal". At that point I told him that a guy approached me before with the same lies. He sped off without saying good bye or anything.

[edit] "Scammed today"

I had this pulled on me today I paid 400 for a "divinci" reciever with the speakers and all. The guy claimed to be from Barrie working in Toronto, and went to Buffalo to pick them up, and the guy messed up the order and gave him too many. So he claimed to be driving around looking to sell these "$3600 dollar speakers" to whoever wants them because they were cash in his pocket. I get home and look up the speakers online and find out about this white van speaker buisness. He even gave me a phony cell phone number so I would take him out for beers later on in the week or something. Sure enough, the number was fake too. All the signs point to the white speaker scam though. He even pulled out a magazine and showed them to me. Havent hooked up the speakers yet, so Im hoping they're at least better than the ones from 1984 that I have now. I'll be happy then.

[edit] "Almost scammed"

Hey, there is a guy running around San Diego, CA trying to sell the same. Used almost word for word the approach. Saying he is doing professional home audio installing and that this guy ordered an extra set and didn't know about it, so he said they can keep the extra sets, so he offered to sell them to me + some trades. So if you are in San Diego, CA be careful. -Adam Cascio

[edit] Double con

I think part of the way it works is that even though the "extra speakers" story is suspicious it seems like they're trying to sell stolen goods. So they make the mark think they're getting a deal on fenced but high-quality speakers. Turns out they're not stolen at all, they're just pieces of shit. But that's original research. 142.162.78.180 (talk) 13:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scam Pulled On Me Wednesday

I just had this happen to me. Watch out people in Darien IL!

My case was significant - this guy was trying to sell me the "Dan Wave" speaker brand. Maybe it should be moved up? Dpaanlka 21:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Scam Pulled on me today in Orange County California I can't believe I fell for this. I was coming out of the barbershop and I saw a van in the parking lot almost run into another car going the same direction towards me. The car moved on and the two young men in a van asked me if I wanted a great deal on a home theater system. Of course, immediately I said no. Right away, college-prep looking scammer said his boss had gotten systems he didn't order (or some dumb crap), and asked them to give them the first "good guy" they see for a great deal. They told me their boss said they could keep the money they get as a Christmas bonus. The college-looking guy offered to show the speakers and pulled out a professional-looking price list showing they were over $2,300. "What if I were to throw out some crazy price at say, 300 bucks?" That got my attention even though I never would've paid that much. I got them down to $200 and it was a deal. I asked for their names, their bosses name and a card. Didn't have a card but the skater-looking guy scribbled down a number. When I called, some other guy answered and verified their names, and that they worked there. I thought I had a deal until I went on the Internet to check the quality of the speakers and found nothing but references to scams and sales of the same system on eBay and Craigslist. How stupid could I be? Lessoned learned: "If it's sounds too good to be true, it usually is." Hey! That's got a ring to it. Feel free to use it.

[edit] Scammed today in Indianapolis

Same thing, but with Genesis Media Labs. Everything exactly the same as stated. The old adage if something is too good to be true, it ALWAYS is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.73.166.30 (talk) 19:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


Edit: added 'Linear Phase' to the list, needs a proper citation, go here for starters: http://www.smr-archive.com/forum_2/messages/517.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tacoekkel (talk • contribs) 22:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Why is this such a big deal to people????????

You buy somehting you thought was real cool for what you wanted to pay for it and then it wasnt that cool but atleast it works and its not a brick in the box........ultimately a lesson to be learned just don't buy something you don't know about or don't buy something in 10 minutes without thinking about it. I never will again!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.80.2 (talk) 03:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] There is a problem with this...

I know that this scam may be shady, but this article is very objective. The point of Wikipedia is to inform, not propagate! I got site numerious examples, but I don't think this is necessary if you've already read the article. Infiniteknowledge69 (talk) 22:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)