Talk:White mutiny

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I am thinking about deprodding, but not certain this text is a helpful start on the article we should have. This is a legitimate topic, the major historical one (which I'd guess named the concept) occured in India during British colonial rule. This description appears to be based on Robert A. Heinlein's book The Number Of The Beast, which probably popularized the concept for WWII and beyond generations more than anything else. GRBerry 01:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd be happy to see it deprodded (since I'm the one that prodded it) if a legit article can be generated. Probably would be better to start from scratch, though. Akradecki 02:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmmm

I submitted it.

The text is written from personal knowledge and experience. Though both of your references in the discussion were essentially correct.

I saw the reference to it in Indian rebellion of 1857 where it was unlinked and left hanging.

The reference to the description being from Robert A. Heinlein is possibly accurate due to my heavy reading of his works as a youth. However, it was not my primary source and I last read that book at least 25 years ago.

I thought I'd add what I knew so that readers of the rebellion article wouldn't be left hanging. I botched linking it correctly though and was going to discuss it with someone today. I feel that it should exist as a concept, however it might be incomplete as it exists. Adding references to the Indian rebellion and to Robert A. Heinlein would perhaps make it more substantial. Xromad 15:54, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I see you've wikilinked both of these as sources. Please be aware that our guideline on reliable sources say that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please do take the time to find some reliable sources to use instead. Also, any editor, is free at any time to remove the prod tag, including the original author (yourself). The core policy Wikipedia:No original research means that we really shouldn't be writing from our personal knowledge, though I certainly did it in my first article. I've gone back since and added some sourcing to that one, and hope that you will do so here. GRBerry 16:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I intend to find some references to post. It may take me a few days. I'm going to try to get ahold of the book I cited in "References in popular culture" to see if it will work. Xromad 16:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I have Peter Stanley's book White Mutiny: British Military Culture in India on order from the Inter Library Loan. I'll update according to what I find when it gets here 207.250.183.38 14:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Now reading White Mutiny: British Military Culture in India. I'll post updates once I finish. Xromad 20:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Still lots of room for improvement, but hopefully this is now a much better article. Xromad 19:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Definitely better, but looks too much like a policy violation, either by being original research or a copyright violation. Please work to improve this.GRBerry 20:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

I think this page should be renamed the "east india company army's war of independence" as only a fraction of the army was involved JUST like the indian population during the mutiny..errm sorry indian war of independence.

I disagree. This page specifically addresses the term "White Mutiny", its origins and its history. I agree that a lot of cleanup could be done. But, This page is not about the East India Company's army but about one specific event that occurred and its impact on history and popular culture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.250.183.123 (talk)

[edit] Removing Description in the "Popular Culture" section.

I believe that removing the description of "Heinlein's definition of a white mutiny is a mistake. In popular culture that IS the definition of white mutiny. A search on Google returns many links with that definition.

I suggest it be returned to the article even if it needs to be modified or placed under a different heading. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.250.183.123 (talk)