Talk:White Other (United Kingdom Census)

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Contents 1 REMOVAL OF IRISH AND TURKISH GROUPS 2 REMOVAL OF IRISH 3 Greek Population 4 Turkish Population 5 Greek Speakers in London

[edit] REMOVAL OF IRISH AND TURKISH GROUPS

The reason for removing the Irish Briton and British Turkish groups are because this article states information about the White Other group of the UK census whereas White Irish people have a completely seperate group due to their large population, and Turks come under the category other as Turkey is widely perceived in Britain to be a Third World, non-white country.

• See here for references for Irish people
• See here for references for Turkish people

Turks in the 1991 UK survey identified as "white". Do you have any official government statement that says they can't self-identify as "white" anymore? Or just the one reference that says Turkey is regarded as "a third-world country, therefore not white"?--Ramdrake 16:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Here is the source of the statement: http://fpc.org.uk/fsblob/597.pdf (p. 28). And I wholeheartly agree with that. By the way, the government cannot forbid anyone from self-identifying as white, even if they are Mongoloid or Negroid. --Humanophage 23:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] REMOVAL OF IRISH

The Turks may remain in the white other group, but the Irish definately have their own group White Irish.

See Census 2001 Ethnic Codes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.167.190 (talk) 15:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Statistics are always flawed anyway. A fair Caucasian looking `British Asian' like Omar Abdullah pictured here http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38325000/jpg/_38325295_abdullah.jpg could claim `Aryan' heritage and self-identify as `white'.

[edit] Greek Population

Closer to 400,000 not 200,000. See discussion in Greek Briton. --82.152.253.59 (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkish Population

Closer to 200,000 or greater not 100,000. At least 70-90,000 are Turkish Cypriots that arrived since 1974 according to KOTOS estimates. --82.152.253.59 (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greek Speakers in London

The figure given is obviously wrong since there are over 300,000 Greeks living in the Greater London area at least 150,000 are Cypriot refugees whose mother language is Greek. The figure given must refer to people who speak Greek but don't speak English and therefore require language assistance from the authorities.--82.152.253.59 (talk) 18:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)