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[edit] comment on removal of external links / spam

MM, Noted your comment on the removal of external links... specifically for Whey protein. Dated May 9. Is it standard policy that all external links are to be removed now? Or are all links being lumped into "spam" through some association with clearly promotional sites? SupplementData.com has sustained as a resource link for many months and I'm curious why you felt it spam... it's a resource and knowledge base, not a spam or promotion site. thank you, Shawn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.188.50 (talk • contribs)

Hi Shawn. I originally removed the link because I suspected it violated Wikipedia:External_links#Links_to_normally_avoid, specifically:
  • #2 "does not provide a unique resource"
  • #3 "Links that are added to promote a site."
I don't see it as a unique resource because the information at your link could/should be included directly into the article. Also, an editor should not link to his own website or websites he/she is affiliated with since it is seen as an attempt to promote a site. Your site is very clean (no advertising, easy to read) and does have good information but I'm not sure it warrants inclusion in this article. I've added your link back for other editors to review though. Image:Monkeyman.pngMonkeyman

(talk) 13:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

MM, Thank you. Sorry for the delay in response. I did see the change in reference to outside links after my note to you. Also, I was unaware of the author, reference peice. I thought that since SupplementData.com was built for the purpose of "unbiased" (my intention and belief not statement of fact) knowledge sharing, it wasn't so much a reference of "my work." Moot point, I'm sure at this point but worth clarifying.

I do hope that the link to the the "wheyprotein.org" site which is a paper thin commerical coverup is also removed.

Thank you! ~Shawn

I recently added a link to a whey site (wheyprotein.org) that has some great free recipes for whey products, it's a unique resource. -Mary

[edit] Amino acids

Whey protein is loaded with the essential and non-essential amino acids with few carbohydrates and little fat content.

What are the amino acids? --Abdull 12:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


Someone should mention that Whey protein doesn't contain all 20 essential amino acids. --Mandom Rix 07:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Facts?

"Excessive use of protein can cause liver problems." -- I am almost sure that the liver problem dilemma is not valid anymore.--81.216.196.144 22:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

"However, Whey protein that has been sufficiently diluted will not be absorbed by the body. The ideal ratio of water to whey protein changes from person to person, so balance must be found on an individual basis." -- What? So too much water in my shake will worsen the uptake? I have never heard of that. Where can I find more information? --81.216.196.144 22:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


--> I agree. Water does not affect whey protein in any way.

The liver "dilemma" was never a problem. There was some mention in the past about high-protein diets and kidney strain, but nothing about the liver. I can't see how whey protein specifically can cause liver problems when numerous other foods also contain protein. I've removed the paragraph until someone can provide a verifiable source for such a ludicrous statement. Same with the water statement. It looks more like vandalism to me. Yankees76 21:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

you could have liver problems if you constantly have too much protien and not enough carbs/fat so your body is forced to use proteins for energy, which is toxic and strains the liver. I don't have sources Elie 21:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Gluconeogenesis is a natural function of the liver - however I'm interested in seeing sources for what you're saying. Yankees76 21:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

also i think this page can be merged with the page about whey most of the text is repeated anyway Elie 21:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I came here specifically for information about whey protein, specifically the concentrate / isolate / hydrosylate distinction, the effect of temperature, and the specific form of the proteins in each. This article proved precisely on-target for what I think is not a too-uncommon set of questions, so I think its independent status is useful. The parts that are redundant with whey could be replaced with links, which might help reduce the effort needed for updates.Inhumandecency (talk) 16:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whey is not lactose-free

The source for this article is questionable and does not give much information regarding the production of whey protein. There are various methods used to produce whey that provide important insight. Specifically there are 3 methods used to produce whey isolate, each with its' own pro's and con's. This article should be pulled. Most of it has been directly copied from the cited source.

Well, I'm lactose intolerant, (allergic to milk, especially in tea/coffee but lactose in general) and I use whey protein to supplement my diet with no problems whatsoever. Maybe it depends on which whey protein brand name you use? 72.68.200.244 22:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whey Allergies

Though rare, I am one among others that cannot eat or drink anything with Whey Protein in it because of my body's inability to break down the enzymes contained therein. I am not an exceptionally wonderful writer, and was curious if someone could possibly note in the article that there are people who cannot digest Whey Protein primarily; I'm aware that this is commonly mistaken as "Lactose Intolerance", however, that title could not be farther from the truth. Because of a lack of enzymes in my digestive system, I cannot process Whey and in turn, can become deathly ill as a result of attempting to digest it. Thank you for your consideration, and have a wonderful day!

[edit] Whey protein has high cholesterol

Whey protein has high cholesterol. In fact, one serving of GNC's Whey Protein powder mix has almost 25% of your daily intake of cholesterol. My doctor warned me that it is one aspect in my diet contributing to higher levels of cholesterol (Which, in turn, can cause heart attacks)

Does anyone have any references which show this particular risk in whey protein? It should be mentioned in this article. I won't edit the article until everyone is in consensus about it. Thanks 72.68.200.244 22:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Whey protein concentrate often contains a substantial quantity of cholestrol, while whey protein isolates usually do not. In addition, it is a matter of open debate in the medical community whether dietary cholestrol intake is harmful to otherwise healthy individuals (ie, those not already diagnosed with hyperlipidemia or metabolic syndrome). --Bk0 (Talk) 00:07, 13 July 2007 (UTC)