User talk:Whatsthat

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Hello, Whatsthat! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! nancy (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC) Getting Started Wikipedia Tutorial • The five pillars of Wikipedia How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Pages needing attention • Peer review Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Hi Whatsthat and thanks for your contributions on aeroengines, in particular regarding ULPower. I'm a little concerned, however, that you might have a Conflict of Interest here, and this may be leading you to insert inappropriate material into articles to emphasise this new manufacturer out of proportion to its actual current importance. In particular, please refrain from inserting external links into articles pointing to the company website; Wikipedia has a very strict anti-advertising policy and we try to use external links very judiciously.

If you feel that you can still contribute usefully to the encyclopedia while respecting our guidelines, you're still more than welcome to edit here. In particular, an article about the UL260i itself would be very welcome.

If you have any questions, please feel free to leave a note on my talk page. --Rlandmann (talk) 20:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the article! Two little points to keep in mind: (1) the correct title for this article on Wikipedia is ULPower UL260i - aero engines are always titled manufacturer-model; take a look at the list of aircraft engines and you will see this convention consistently applied. (2) the image needed to be deleted, since Wikipedia's restrictions on what images we can use are very strict. We can usually only use an image if it is free of copyright, or the copyright holder allows the image to be freely re-used by anyone for any purpose. For an image taken from a website, we usually require a notice to be placed at the website itself allowing the free use and re-use of that image. Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 00:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The image that you uploaded (again) is still problematic because this webpage that it's taken from has a copyright notice on it. Before Wikipedia can use the image, it must be free of copyright restrictions (either released into the public domain, or made freely available under a suitable "copyleft" licence like Creative Commons). The website should bear a message to that effect. Note that this means that anyone will be allowed to use the image for any purpose that they want without needing any further permission from ULPower (including for-profit purposes, and for the purpose of negative publicity about the company and/or the product). --Rlandmann (talk) 15:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all - we're all new once! And yes, it would be really nice to have that picture to use. If ULPower is happy to release the image under the terms I described above, then please amend the website accordingly, to indicate that the image is indeed free. There will then be no problem uploading it to Wikipedia (or, even better, Wikimedia Commons, which will allow Wikipedia in other languages to use it too). --Rlandmann (talk) 21:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I notice that you've now uploaded the file to commons, but without adding a notice to this webpage indicating that the image is free from copyright. Please understand the importance of this: if we didn't have a policy like this, it would mean that anyone could take any picture from any website, claim that they were the original photographer or creator, and leave Wikipedia in a very vulnerable position. This picture would be a great addition to the encyclopedia, but we need to be very careful with copyrights. --Rlandmann (talk) 02:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes - that's all fine now. Thanks! The notice that the image was free for use by websites and magazines was not sufficient - images here need to be free for anyone to use for any purpose. Like I said earlier, this must include people who want (somehow) to profit from the image, or those who want to use it for negative publicity about the product. Many thanks once again --Rlandmann (talk) 04:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)