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[edit] Tramway

The correct title for the 'Quay Branch' is 'The Weymouth Harbour Tramway' which it was known as by the GWR and then BR. It never carried any public trams, the name simply refers to its location on the public highway. Fortunately the engines were not forced to use cow-catchers and side plates (think of Toby the Tram Engine!).Grumpy 13:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Census Data

I tried both links and both had problems - I'll try again at a later date. Is there a problem with the links? SeanMack 18:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Promote GA

I enjoy this article as it is well written. Its prose flows smoothly from one section to section. The Wikipedia manual of style is also used properly. The article is also well referenced with sufficient inline citations. All major aspects of the town are given briefly enough, which means the topic is broad enough and no NPOV problem. This article is also quite stable as no controversies around. I also like images given and I have checked that all images are properly tagged with suitable Wikipedia licenses. With all of this, this article qualifies as Good Article. Congratulations to the editor for this beautiful work. — Indon (reply) — 15:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Well Written Article

I agree with Indon on this one, the Weymouth article is written very well, and has a broad range of topics, with the right amount of detail - not too much, but still enough to fully describe the town. I think with a bit of fine tuning of exact wording and tone, and this article could become a Featured Article. I too congratulate the editors for their work, and those who have spent time to take photographs of key topics et ectera - they work very well. 86.133.245.124 14:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Should this article be nominated for Featured Article status? I think it fulfills all, if not almost all, FA criteria, so it could be suitable for nomination. It certainly includes most relevant topics to do with the city/town. I do agree with Indon and User:86.133.245.124. Rossenglish 14:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

The infobox looks good. Thanks, Tutmosis. I restored Image:Weymouth Promenade.jpg that was in the old infobox. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Nice work Tutmosis, and thanks for reinstating the promenade image Hrothulf. Rossenglish 19:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New additions

This page seems to be associated with several other pages, and is linked to around 100 subsequent articles, so I thought a 'See also' section would be suitable. Feel free to add more links/comment on it, or even delete links you feel they are not needed! Rossenglish 20:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I have added a weatherbox template to the article to summarise Weymouth's climate, with the data painstakingly taken from Met office maps, hope people like it, and if not, it may be removed after mentioning it here! Rossenglish 19:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article Status

After a series of many improvements recently, this article has acheived Featured article status. However, that doesn't make the article perfect, so any improvements made in good faith to the article are welcome.

Rossenglish 15:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoken Version added

I have added a spoken version of this article today; see the link at the top. Hassocks5489 16:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geology map

I made a new geology map, so the description is now out of date. I have no idea how to describe the colour though, so somebody else will have to! Joe D (t) 17:31, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South West Coast Path

The South West Coast Path passes through Weymouth, and there has been a proposal made that its article should be rewritten. At present it is largely long lists of towns, villages, and places of interest. If you can help turn these lists into prose, could you join in at Talk:South West Coast Path. Thanks. Geof Sheppard 13:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sand Sculptures

The Sand Sculptures are the works of Fred Darrington and Mark Anderson, and not simple sand castles as per the sand sculpture artical http://www.sculpturesinsand.com/gallery.html

The sculptures are done with nothing more than sand and water, and then painted 172.200.238.252 19:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

The Sand Sculpture wiki page needs to be updated 172.213.243.174 21:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rejig

Hello team,

Just a note that I've brought this great article (and it is great - I had no idea it was an FA) inline with the WP:UKCITIES standard and added a few advanced features (like image into infobox) that have been employed since this article achieved FA. Hope that's OK, -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to add that since the re-jig I have played around with the pictures to even them up, and I moved some stuff from economy to sport. I noticed the demography and governance needed expanding, which is what I'm doing now. Rossenglish (talk) 15:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

What covers an 8 square km area-the 48 conservation designations or the 11 SSSI? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.31.28.168 (talk) 19:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Just the SSSIs – I will clarify the sentence shortly. Thanks for pointing that out! Rossenglish (talk) 19:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Are you Pabletex from the Spanish Wikipedia? If so, you are doing some fantastic work! Rossenglish (talk) 19:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it's me. And thank you so much for your comment :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.117.219.66 (talk) 05:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question II

The article about the Isle of Portland (section Demography) says that there were 9.1 burglaries per 1000 people in 2005 and 2006, while this article says that in Weymouth there were 12.0 crimes per 1000 households. Isn't there a mistake in any of these articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.203.61 (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out! The correct sentence should have been X burglaries per 1000 households. I have changed both the Weymouth and the Isle of Portland articles. Rossenglish (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question III

Could someone explain me what floorspace is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.203.61 (talk) 01:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Floorspace is the area inside a building. In the case of this article, the 37 500 square metres of 'floorspace' refers to the area in the town centre taken up by shops. Rossenglish (talk) 10:46, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question IV

In the section about sport and recreation, the srticle says: Although the plans were to move by August 2007, the scheme was shelved before construction could begin, refering to a second move of de Wessex stadium. Is this scheme definitely cancelled or was it posponed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.208.195 (talk) 15:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The August 2007 scheme has been cancelled, but a completely different scheme could possibly be agreed, but that is not for Wikipedia to say. Hence I would use the term 'cancelled' rather than 'postponed'. Rossenglish (talk) 18:31, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question V

In the introduction it says that Weymouth is 8 km away from the Isle of Portland, but in the section about geography it says that they are 3 km away from each other. Which is right? Thank you for answering my questions :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.193.209 (talk) 20:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

The 8 km distance in the introduction is the distance from the centre of Weymouth to the centre of the Isle of Portland. The 3 km distance in the geography section is how far away Portland is from the coast - i.e. there is 3 km of sea between Portland and the mainland. I will make this clearer in the article. Rossenglish (talk) 22:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Queston VI

There is something I haven't understood: there are no more services in tramway but there still are services in trains, isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.193.209 (talk) 00:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

There are trains that serve Weymouth train station twice an hour from London, but they don't use the tramway. There are still very very occasionally trains that go on the tramway, but they are only for special events. Rossenglish (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question VII

In the article about Melcombe Regis it says that it was one of the first points of entry of the Black Death into England in the summer of 1348. (The disease was possibly carried there by infected soldiers and sailors returning from the Hundred Years' War), while in the section about history of this article it says that Melcombe Regis is thought to be the first port at which the Black Death came into England, aboard a spice ship in June 1348. So, how did the Black Death get into England—carried by soldiers or aboard a spice ship?

The truth is that nobody knows for sure what was on the ship, spices or soldiers. That is why both theories say 'is thought to be' or 'possibly' - as we cannot be certain. I'll change the Melcombe Regis article to clarify this. Thanks once again! Rossenglish (talk) 17:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question VIII

In this article it says that the Isle of Portland lies 3 km to the south of Weymouth, but in the article about the island it says that it is 2 km to the south of the town. Which is right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.82.61.49 (talk) 18:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh thank you so much for noticing that! The correct figure is 3 km, I have changed the Portland article. It is really helpful when someone reads these articles so thoroughly like you are, thanks a lot :) Rossenglish (talk) 18:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question IX

There is one link to "Dorset Downs" titled "South Dorset Downs". Aren't they different landforms? Isn't there a mistake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.82.62.29 (talk) 00:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes you are right. I've changed the link to South Dorset Downs. =) Rossenglish (talk) 07:25, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Atheism & Irreligion

Ad. [1]. Please clarify whether it is atheism or irreligion, because two terms are different. Visor (talk) 07:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict). Someone twice edited the Relgion box (in the Demography section) to point "No religion" to Irreligion (example: this diff). Both edits got reverted with accusations of vandalism. These don't appear to be vandalism, but good faith. And in my opinion, that parson's edits look superior to what was there before as "no religion" is perhaps better described as "irreligion" rather tahn atheism. Comments?--85.158.139.99 (talk) 07:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Further to this, I'll be bold and will change it to Irreligion.--85.158.139.99 (talk) 07:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
...and User:Visor's done it anyway. I'll strike out the vandalism notices on the anon's page.--85.158.139.99 (talk) 07:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
This IP was mine anyway :) Visor (talk) 13:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] shcneider trophy

wasnt there a memorial to the above and what was the back grount? Engineman (talk) 16:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

There is one, in Greenhill gardens. "The Schneider Trophy weathervane is a memorial to a former Weymouth College student, Lieutenant George Stainforth, who set a world record air speed in a Schneider Supermarine S6B seaplane in 1931. The weathervane has been in the gardens since May 1952 and was restored in 1999 by a local marine engineer." Information on Greenhill Gardens. I could add this in if you like. RossEnglish 17:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Funny sentence

"The population of Weymouth is almost 52,372." So, er - exactly what is it then? 52,371.6? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.18.90.144 (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It used to say 'almost 52,000'. Lots of edits and vandalism today you see. RossEnglish 19:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Would anyone (other than 4channers screaming hypocrisy) object to me deleting the article in order to remove the 4chan vandalism? -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 06:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by 4chan vandalism? The vandalism since yesterday has been reverted, so what does it achieve? RossEnglish 06:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
4chan uses old revisions to vandalize articles, so, with all due respect, having the revisions there is a liability; so long as they remain in the history, vandals can post a link to the bad revision and expect results, so to speak. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 06:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
So what does the process involve - I am guessing copying the article, deleting the online page, then making a new one of the current revision? (sorry for the long absence- work) RossEnglish 15:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
It's simple. An administrator deletes the article, then selectively restores revisions to remove vandalism or other undesirable edits. The way you suggest would fall foul of GFDL requirements for attribution; deletion and selective restoration preserves the attribution. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 16:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I see, thanks for explaining, I have always thought that the history always stays unless an article is deleted without moving it, I didn't know there were tools to get rid of selected edits. I see no objection, and I don't think anyone else would, as long as it has a precedent. I do not object to that. :) RossEnglish 16:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Done; edits removed and history restored. -Jéské (v^_^v E pluribus unum) 17:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Funny Sentence II

The history of the borough stretches back to the 12th century; including involvement in the Black Death, the settlement of the Americas, the Georgian era, and World War II.

How can a town have involvement in an era, surely being merely existing during the Georgian era meant that it was involved with it, or am I missing some method that towns use to extricate themselves from entire decades of history? Quee1797 (talk) 17:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I see what you mean, it is a bit contrived. I suppose a more specific phrase would be: "involvement in the Black Death, the settlement of the Americas, the [something] of Georgian era, and World War II." From the history section, that something would probably be architecture, or design, or art, or culture, or society. I'll think what is the most appropriate and add it in, thanks for pointing that out. :) RossEnglish 18:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)