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[edit] Silica

I've altered the article to reflect to information discovered on Weston's continued space exploration plans. An official announcement on the issue is expected to be made by the town's mayor in Jan 2007. - Miser

[edit] External links

I accept CLW's edit taking away the www.cial.org.uk link but, that site, which I acknowledge is mine (and so maybe I would be seen as self-promoting), did start as and still is to a large extent a Weston-super-Mare interest site. But my main purpose (besides getting myself into the world of WIKIpedia editing and learning) was to get CCC in the work...

Other things: I must remind myself of the exact name and achievements of Weston's (Nobel Prize winning?) physicist - Eddington I think ?

Johnrcrellin 06:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC) (Now have I got the use of this page right ?)

A Google search of "Eddington" and "Nobel" reveals that this was Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington. There's a W-s-M link from his entry, but an Eddington ref in the W-s-M entry would certainly be a good thing.
And yes, I'm glad you're happy with my removal of the link. The wikilink through to the Commercial Cable Company entry from the W-s-M entry is certainly appropriate, and the external link to www.cial.org.uk from the CCC entry is also appropriate, but the external link to www.cial.org.uk from the W-s-M was less so.
Just one suggestion for future comments on this talk page - if you click on the "+" next to the "edit this page" tab, it will start a new section (for which you can insert a title - this will make things easier if more topics get added here) at the bottom of the page. CLW 08:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

One other historical tit-bit of note is that a local chapter of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, a coterie of late Victorian mystical magicians, briefly existed in Weston-super-Mare beginning in 1888. The W-s-M local was named the Osiris Temple. The Golden Dawn's most notorious member was Aleister Crowley, but their most illustrious member was William Butler Yeats. Yeats and Crowley did not get on well with each other at all.

Another, later, member of the Golden Dawn, who joined in 1919, was the author Violet Firth, known to her readers as Dion Fortune. Her most popular novel, The Sea Priestess, was set in the area around Weston-super-Mare (using fictionalized geographical names), and its focus of magical activity was the old fort on the headland at Brean Down, which in the novel was remade into a magical Goddess temple. This book has had an enduring influence on modern Wicca, Goddess religion, and Magick, with its veiled descriptions of sacred sex.

--172.208.21.141 20:20, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Jomo

[edit] SeaQuarium / sea-life centre

I've been watching this with amusement - and I guess it is the sort of thing Wikipedia contributors are 'never going to see eye-to-eye on.

As I see it a sea-life centre is a generic (and lower case !) term that describes a whole group of commercial ventures and by far the most appropriate term for an encyclopedia. Similarly I would say vacuum cleaner rather than Hoover.

Sure the previous owners did I think call it the Sea-life Centre (Upper case though !)

Johnrcrellin 15:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - the current solution works for me! CLW 21:32, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Helicopter Museum

The helicopter museum in Weston-super-Mare is the largest in the world. Surely it deserves more of a mention (or its own article even)?

I also removed the blatant advertising for the Operatic society.


[edit] Sub headings

At the moment the article seems a little jumbled and I think it could do with some sub headings and a bit more structure. does anyone agree or have suggestions for sections it could be divided into? Basement12 15:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

An example of the kind of thing i mean is the Chelsea page, I think similar would be good here Basement12 15:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tidal range and mud

I thought the last couple of paragraphs needed amplification. Plus, I'm afraid it's a myth we all cling to here in Weston but the second largest tidal range tag is factually inaccurate. I am not even sure it is third as I am sure I read that there is another high(er) range somewhere in China but cannot trace the reference at the moment.

Johnrcrellin 19:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 20,000 all seater stadium

I live in Weston and have never heard any mention of this project. As it is not cited, I feel that it is most likely vandalism. Unless someone has any further info on it, I'm going to remove it. I'll look into it with other residents as well. algebra man (talk ยท contribs) 22:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I've not heard of it either ! Johnrcrellin 08:48, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I have decided to remove the football section altogether as, after looking through the contributions of the person who added it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.155.89.143, I feel that it is very unlikely that there is any validity to it. Algebra man 19:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent changes

I assume the loss of the History section was not intended by any serious editor of this page? Silliness on this article seems to be spinning out of control. I have re-instated it. Johnrcrellin 07:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm revoking the bit I put in yesterday about "-super-Mare" maybe meaning "on the edge of the moor" rather than "on sea". It's true that Geoffrey Bartlett, longtime math teacher at St. Peter's School 50 years ago, used to assert that IF it meant "on sea" it should be "super-Marem", etc. But after putting this up, I thought I should check the Latin/English dictionaries. I found that the only Latin "mar.." that could translate into "moor" is "inhabitant of Mauretania" (i.e. the north African variety). Maybe this was Barty's last joke, or a conundrum left to posterity that we can now lay to rest. He had a huge influence on my life. Thanks, whoever put up the "dubious-discuss" tag. Adrian Pollock (talk) 19:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It was me :-), I wasn't sure you were joking or being serious, Pahari Sahib (talk) 20:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Historic(al) Somerset

I cannot quite understand the reluctance to state in the piece the undoubted fact that, for most of its existence, Weston-super-Mare was in Somerset. POV I know - but Avon surely will soon be seen as a (regrettable) blip in history ? Leaving that aside the fact that the town was originally in Somerset and is now in an authority described as "North Somerset" are the important points. Look at old maps and I think you will see that present BANES, North Somerset and Bristol south of the Avon were indeed "North Somerset" as a division of the county. And to make it worse botanists still have a "North Somerset" that extends further south. Johnrcrellin 12:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Somerset

It should mention that weston is still in the (Ceremonial) county of Somerset Blackwave...... (talk) 19:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Ceremonial county is mentioned in the infobox so it is reasonable that it should also be mentioned in the body of the article. However it isn't reasonable to simply remove North Somerset from the article - hence my reversion of your edit. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 20:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tides

Maybe the wording needs improving. (As shown by recent revision attempt that completely missed the point.) The way tides work they have the highest RANGE at the same time of day each cycle (I didn't know this until I moved to Weston and observed it for myself.) So when it is high tide at say 12.00 midday it is never VERY high and because the beach is so shallow, changing to mud as you go out, the visitor does not get to see the sea much during their day. If you stay overnight when high tide is at say 8.00 am then you get to see the sea right up close. Johnrcrellin (talk) 09:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I understand what you say, but would like to see it cited from elsewhere. If you look at the next week's tides in Weston you will see that as the tide gets later in the morning its height gets less. However, on Tuesday 15th high tide is late in the morning at 11:07 and is still a relatively high 10.8 metres. At this height the tide is quite a way up the beach. I too lived in Weston for a long time, and still live nearby, so know what it looks like when you only get a 9 metre high tide. --TimTay (talk) 09:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes there are several overlapping cycles at work and when the tides are at their highest in the yearly cycle you do get a reasonable tide at times like 11.00 - but the yearly cycle doesn't favour day trippers in the summer. The practical outcome is that most of the time when the beach is busy the sea is a long way off ! As always trying to get a complex but relevant point distilled down to a short paragraph is hard ! Johnrcrellin (talk) 09:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you find this referenced on an external website or in a book anywhere? It would be really good to add it to the article. --TimTay (talk) 13:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)