Talk:Westfield North Rocks

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This article went through AFD in February [1] with the conclusion that it should be merged to the article about the town. Why is it still here? I found a deletion review where it was listed, then it was removed from the deletion review [2] [3] because the AFD was still going on Was there a subsequent deletion review calling for the article to be restored after the completed AFD called for it to be merged? Why isn't the AFD listed here on the discussion page? Thanks. Edison 23:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Because the article and it's talk page were deleted, and this version of the article is a significant improvement over the deleted content, so the AfD's in question are moot points. Thewinchester ^(talk) 01:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Fall

Why does the article have a section on the injury of a workman? It is unfortunate, but hardly seems encyclopedic. Not every shoplifting incident, traffic accident in the parking lot, purse snatching, or injury at a shopping mall needs to be included in the article, even if it made it into the newspaper. Most malls have literally hundreds of such incidental news items. The section follows, as it was before I removed it from the article: "On 30 October 2000, a plumber working on the roof area fell 6 m (20 ft), falling through a hatch before landing head first on the concrete floor of a loading dock below.^[1][2] The plumber was working with his son at the time on maintenance work for Westfield when the accident occurred.^[2][1] The worker was unconscious after the accident and was rushed to Westmead Hospital suffering serious head injuries.^[2][1]" Edison 00:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Developing section, and further research is in process. Additionally, a lot of your changes do not concur with the current thinking of Wikiproject Shopping centres, and a policy which never gained consensus is not relevant here. Thewinchester ^(talk) 01:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Please elaborate on what changes "do no concur with the current thinking." I make a lot of changes to articles every day, and I need to know which ones are objectionable. Does the "thinking" require that everytime someone falls on his head it gets added to the encyclopedia article about the venue of the fall? Better think again, or the slip and falls, muggings, shoplifting, etc will overwhealm the encyclopedic content. It looks like grasping at straws to try and bring in independent news sources as references. I do not see where I cited a "policy that did not gain consensus on this page." To what are you referring? Thanks. Edison 02:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: regional shopping centres - In Australia, BOMA recognises the consensus of 20,000 among state governments (the WA official version is represented at this policy document) and the BOMA biennial publication in the State Library uses regional, district, neighbourhood as subject dividers. As for the accident, I think the emphasis was on safety issues at the shopping centre, rather than simply someone having an accident. Orderinchaos 03:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The document referenced by Orderinchaos is not viewable online. It sits on a library shelf in Australia. If someone has access to it, then please go to the Shopping mall article and include the classifications and the criteria (size or otherwise) which drive them, so that all Wikipedia editors can make informed judgements on future AFDs.From your comment here, the sizes that go with the categories are not clear. Thanks. Edison 18:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox image

I have changed the infobox image from The Westfield Group Logo.PNG to North Rocks Westfield.JPG. The Westfield Group logo is Copyright (C) 2006 The Westfield Group. The only reason it is on Wikipedia is because it is used under Fair Use in the Westfield Group article. Its use in this article does not constitute Fair Use. North Rocks Westfield.JPG has been licensed for use under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported, and so can be used in this article. Please do not change the image back to the Westfield Group logo unless you specify its fair use rationale for THIS ARTICLE on the image page. Thanks, Cdlw93 (talk) 23:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)