Talk:Westfield Glenfield

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This article was nominated for deletion on November 20, 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

[edit] Notability concerns

As is being discussed at the talk page of WP:LOCAL, there are concerns that there shouldn't be articles about individual shopping malls unless there is something extraordinary about them, which has been covered in non-local press. Is there anything about this particular mall which meets that standard? If not, I recommend that this information be merged into the article about the parent community. --Elonka 20:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

There are concerns, but until there is consensus, you don't get to go about the encyclopedia trying to enforce your views on others against their will. If you want to get rid of this perfectly notable article, do it through the proper processes. Rebecca 09:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The {{local}} tag seems like a much gentler way of addressing an article, than submitting it for deletion. The tag I placed said effectively that the article should have additional references added, or be considered for a merge. Why do you think I'm trying to "get rid" of it? --Elonka 11:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Myriads of articles on Wikipedia need references, and there is no reason or justification for applying a much higher standard of referencing to shopping centres because killing them it is your particular fetish at the moment, as this distracts effort from places where it is genuinely needed, such as biographies of living persons. I also object to merging this article in any circumstances (merging counts as getting rid of it in my book, since its content would not fit in any other article). Rebecca 12:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I see no reason to let a bad article stay on Wikipedia simply because there are other bad articles in existence, or because other areas need work. If an article doesn't have any claim of notability, and doesn't have any solid references, it should go. --Elonka 19:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

The article does have a claim to notability - it is a large shopping centre of importance to many people. It is, as such, in the same basket as any other article without references - there is, at present, no policy or guideline allowing their deletion on that basis. Rebecca 00:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Oppose deletion as per Elonka's comments. MadMaxDog 06:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)