Talk:West Riding of Yorkshire (UK Parliament constituency)

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[edit] Name of Conservative MP 1841-45

I note that different sources give different names. F.W.S. Craig gives this man as Hon. J.S. Wortley. The Who's Who of British MPs (which is based on contemporary editions of Dod's Parliamentary Companion) refers to Hon. John Stuart Wortley. The father's entry refers to his surname as Stuart-Wortley.

The Who's Who is not inconsistent with Craig, as in the 1832-1885 results volume he treated the first part of double barrelled surnames as middle initials.

The discrepancy arises from Leigh Rayment using a triple barrelled surname for this family.

Looking at The Constitutional Year Book 1900 they have an entry for the 2nd Earl Wharncliffe (born in 1855), with his name being F.J.M. Stuart-Wortley.

I suggest it would be appropriate to alter the version of the name used in the list of MPs, to the one I used in the results. --Gary J 00:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

  • To complicate this further Dod 1979 gives the surname of the 4th Earl of Wharncliffe as Montagu-Stuart-Wortley-Mackenzie. I am not sure when this surname was adopted but it does not seem to have been current in the nineteenth century. --Gary J 01:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to change it. The situation with Edmund Beckett Denison is similarly confused: he was Edmund Beckett until 1816, but dropped the "Denison" again in 1872 upon inheriting the baronetcy, after the death of his two elder brothers in succession (and he himself died two years later). Choess 01:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hon. J.A.S. Wortley

Conservative candidate 1859. I am guessing his name is James Archibald Stuart-Wortley, as those were the names of the 1st Lord Wharncliffe and one of his sons (who is not the candidate as he was a Liberal by 1859). Unfortunately this particular member of the familty does not seem to have become an MP or peer. Perhaps some one with access to further details of the Wortley clan can confirm or reject my view. --Gary J 20:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

There's a detailed genealogy of the family, which certainly suggests it was James Archibald Stuart-Wortley (d. 1881), younger son of the 1st Lord Wharncliffe. Furthermore, "Whigs and Liberals in the West Riding, 1830-1860", Thompson, F.M.L., The English Historical Review, refers to the Tory candidate in 1859 as "James Stuart-Wortley, brother of Lord Wharncliffe". Presumably this refers to the second Lord, late deceased, as the 3rd Lord's brother was named James Frederick. I admit I'm at a loss to reconcile this with the Solicitorship General under Palmerston. Choess 16:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)