Wikipedia talk:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates

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[edit] Naming

Good idea about merging this to Standard user greeting. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I changed my mind. I think it is better to have a concise list of links as here, rather than a huge page showing all subst'ed existing welcome messages. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:34, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table of welcome templates

I created a table with the welcome templates and a "preview" at Wikipedia:Welcome template table. If you think your welcome is unusual enough to merit inclusion, go ahead and add it to the table. TheJabberwock 00:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:tl

Why link to the template, when whe could use Template:tl. --George Money^{Talk Contribs} 03:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the idea. TheJ<fontcolor="blue">abberwʘck 22:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Instead of Template:Tls2, why not use Template:Tlu. --George Money^{Talk Contribs} 23:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I know why, because it has SUBST: --George Money^{Talk Contribs} 23:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thumbnails

Of the templates would be great.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 15:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Welcome_template_table. Λυδαcιτγ^{(TheJabberwock)} 01:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Why not merge it into this page?--*Kat* 09:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Both pages are pretty big already... Λυδαcιτγ 00:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Late welcome

We need at least one late welcome template IMHO (see my welcome) for users that have not been welcomed despite quite a number of edits. Nil Einne 00:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree and having searched the Welcome committee's templates for just such a thing, I'm surprised by there absence. It's a hole in Wikipedias normally friendly atmosphere that badly needs filling imo. I've never coded anything on WP before but have derived a couple of templates from {{subst:Welcome}} and {{subst:Welcome-anon}} which I regularly use. See User:Daytona2/Intro and User:Daytona2/Intro-anon and User:Daytona2/Sandbox. Comments and suggestions welcome and if nobody objects I'll add them to the Template area. Cheers -- John (Daytona2 · Talk · Contribs) 18:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Too many welcome templates

Should we trim some of them? The big user warning template movement should take this opportunity to do away with a few duplicate ones. Xiner (talk, email) 18:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that the list should be trimmed. The Transhumanist 13:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

There's way too many, often not even listed here (with good reason, of course). Have a look at Category:Welcome_templates to get an idea... --oKtosiTe talk 09:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Template

Hello! I have a graphic template that points new users to several locations. If you would like to look at it, it's located at User:Cremepuff222/Greeting. Let me know if there are any problems! --Cremepuff222 (talk, sign book) 19:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Never mind that previous message. --Cremepuff222 (talk, review me!) 23:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New welcome templates

We have an entirely new set of welcome templates; see Wikipedia talk:Welcoming committee#New welcome templates. Λυδαcιτγ 00:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal

The user Stlchickenwings is vandalising and is a new user. What templates should I use to welcome him/her?

--Kid Evil 1 01:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] concern about "Welcome v2.0"

This newly-added template is colorful, which is nice. (It was recently added at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates/Table.)

The closing line, though, is confusing. Why direct new users specifically to other new users?

“If you want to get other Wikipedians' attentions, go to the New user log.”

-Pete 00:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Dunno, but I removed it. Λυδαcιτγ^‽ 01:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome copyvio (not)

We could use a 'welcome but copyvios are not welcomed' template...--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 18:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error in welcome template

There is something wrong with one or more templates, it's adding the [[Category:Welcome templates]] to peoples user talk pages, I removed one but there are many others, which I left alone for now In case someone wants to investigate which template is causing the error. ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 22:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not the templates (at least in most cases), it's the welcomers, who seem to be copying the source code of a template and pasting it onto the user's talk page. I've cleaned out Category:Welcome templates. Λυδαcιτγ 00:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

ok, thanks, nice work :)▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 01:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poor English welcome messages

Hello. Could some people please review, discuss and improve Category:Poor English welcome messages, and the associated template? Thank you, Tualha (Talk) 18:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I find it hard to imagine that such templates would be used often. There are many users who contribute in poor English, but how is one to know what their native language is? Λυδαcιτγ 04:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I was inspired to create this meta-template when I read User talk:Special rapid. Here we have an editor whose English is not good, and whose native language is clearly Japanese. We see that others have tried to make it clear that (his?) English is not good enough, but were not understood. A standard template in Japanese would be useful in such a situation. I don't know how often this happens, but I think it's worthwhile to create the tool. Tualha (Talk) 11:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gosh

Category:Welcome templates - do we need 113? Should we try and standardise them like we did the user templates? We could perhaps start by subst-ing and redirecting those which are barely used. Neil ム 21:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

We did - see Template:W-basic, Template:W-screen, etc. But continuous redirecting is a good idea. Λυδαcιτγ 04:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I managed to get it down to an even 100 by redirecting some near-identical ones to {{welcome}}. I will probably try and get a few more redirected later. Neil ム 09:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Split off the userspace ones to Category:User-specific Welcome templates. And the project-related ones to Category:Project-specific Welcome templates. Down to 41 in the main category now, much more manageable. Neil ム 09:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Down to 36, and alphabetized. Λυδαcιτγ 21:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Can I...

Hi everyone! I'm a member of WikiProject Accessibility, a group formed to improve Wikipedia's accessibility to disabled users. One of the ideas that we would like to see implemented is the addition of a link to Wikipedia talk: Accessibility to the welcome templates, so that users who have disabilities would know where to look for assistance. I am writing here first to ask if it would be okay if I made these changes. If you like, I can make a subpage where I show you what I intend to do to each template. (since the way I would fit the link in would vary by template)
Thanks very much for input! --(L'Aquatique: Bringing _chaos & ^{general mayhem} to the Wiki for One Year!) 02:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Alternately, it might link to a special page which would have on it details on how to adjust default settings for their greater ease of use. With any luck, this could increase the number and frequency of such users, who might, for all we know, have substantial time to give the project if they knew of, and maybe got some help, in making such minimal cosmetic changes to the settings. John Carter 16:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Registered vandal

Is there a template to welcome new users who are registered but have been vandalizing? I see the anonymous vandal one, but not one for registered people. If I'm missing it... sorry. Brbigam (talk) 21:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

This is a welcome template of a sort, Template:Uw-test1. It welcomes but discourages less than productive edits. A new user who is vandalizing may be a vandalism only account.--Sandahl 23:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happened to the shortcut?

WP:WT is listed as a shortcut to this page and I've used it many times, but now it sends me to Wikipedia:Shortcuts to talk pages!!! The history of the shortcut shows it being a redirect to the talk page list since 2005. I'm very confused. Lyrl^Talk _C 16:47, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor issue with {{W-link}}

Using WP:Twinkle this welcome message put my name in the message above the Happy Editing line, which looks odd because the very next line is my signature. Anyone know how to fix this? Also, it seems there ought to be a comment in the template so that when you look at the subst code you can tell the name of the template that was used as is with user warnings.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 19:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

This was a Twinkle setting, I fixed it.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 16:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question or comment by Farrukh38

These templates should be used but i did not have these greating as new user, wrote an article AL-kitab as per Quraninstead of welcome i had problems and problems by old users and they did not gave any help.but removed my whole text of article and forcely they changed the name of islamic Holy books but not with my whole text which contained arabic text in references of claims. No discussion bu forced every body and they donot want to have text of Quran about verses of Quran which is not fair for wikipedea truth policy. knowledge and research references were also given even then i have lost the text of whole article which is different from Islamic holy books. in wkipedea all topics describing Quran must have title "Quran as per research" and not as per text of Quran, because they donot want to accept the text of quran as a reference for claim which ia talking about Quran and citing it's verse. this type of citation can only be verified by its arabic text and not by any scholar.

it can be checked on talk pages what happened to my article which is now as AL=kita.... thanks Farrukh38 (talk) 15:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Specialized messages w/helpful links

Am I overlooking something, or is there no welcome message which combines wikipedia policy and help links with a "don't be discouraged" message to new users who've had their first contribution deleted? If there really is no such template, I'd propose that one be made-- well-intentioned bad edits seems extremely common among new users, and {{subst:Firstarticle}} does little to set them on the right path. Fullobeans (talk) 18:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)